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The minutes were a little surprising tonight, but I have no problem starting Cam. I like when Dame tries to get going early rather than making sure everyone else feels "involved". Grant needs his shots too. So saving a couple of shooters (Shae and Nas) for the bench does not bug me because we don't have a lot of options right now......as long as they get their minutes.

In 5 games Cam is not shooting that badly (61% from 2, 37% from 3) Not saying he has played great, but he has not played poorly. Small sample size for sure, but I am fine with Chauncey experimenting with him alongside Dame.

Once Ant gets back either he or Dame will always be on the floor. SS and Thybulle will fill the rest of the minutes in the backcourt and probably some SF. So we might as well see what Cam can do now before there is a minutes crunch.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The minutes were a little surprising tonight, but I have no problem starting Cam. I like when Dame tries to get going early rather than making sure everyone else feels "involved". Grant needs his shots too. So saving a couple of shooters (Shae and Nas) for the bench does not bug me because we don't have a lot of options right now......as long as they get their minutes.

In 5 games Cam is not shooting that badly (61% from 2, 37% from 3) Not saying he has played great, but he has not played poorly. Small sample size for sure, but I am fine with Chauncey experimenting with him alongside Dame.

Once Ant gets back either he or Dame will always be on the floor. SS and Thybulle will fill the rest of the minutes in the backcourt and probably some SF. So we might as well see what Cam can do now before there is a minutes crunch.
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Blazers are going to need trade assets, even low-level contracts that can be fillers in larger trades

Portland has several free agents this summer: Grant, Reddish, Thybulle, Winslow, Eubanks. Also Knox and Keon although neither appears to have any value. The other side of the equation is that they only have 7 players under contract. Somehow, they have to build a team. Reddish & Thybulle having contracts in the 4-6M/year range could have some decent trade value while adding depth. Winslow? I'm not sold either way because of his injury history. And IMO, Eubanks has earned a contract. They also have an 8.7M TPE and a 2.4M TPE. And perhaps a lottery pick and a mid-first in the draft; plus several 2nd's.

all of those can be decent assets this summer and heading into the next trade deadline. And in order to gauge the value of new contracts the Blazers need to see these guys actually play in a rotation
 
Blazinaway said:
I am bothered that Cam is getting so many minutes (31 last night) when Nas (playing easily better than Cam) and Shaedon are getting a lot less.
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Chauncey is going with mediocre players that he "trusts." Saw that a lot with Nate McMillan.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I also want Shae to play more, but I can't deny that he's not actually doing enough on the court in the minutes he's getting to command more PT.
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So what?? Where is this team going with Cam Reddish and Thybulle?
From not very far to nowhere.
 
blazerfan11 said:
I'm pissed. :angry:
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Yeah, we all know that. I appreciate your passion for SS, and you are right to feel that he needs to improve for this team to make a jump. But I doubt that starting him now really makes a difference. Right now we need his scoring off the bench more than we need his scoring as a starter. It's not like Chauncey is burying him on the bench.
 
wizenheimer said:
Also Knox and Keon although neither appears to have any value.
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Knox has a team option for next year, but Keon's team option was already exercised for 23-24, so not a free agent.
 
wizenheimer said:
all of those can be decent assets this summer and heading into the next trade deadline. And in order to gauge the value of new contracts the Blazers need to see these guys actually play in a rotation
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Yes.

I like Nas, but the lack of a backup big move tells me this team isn't serious about competing this year, so evaluation of Reddish's fit is the priority over giving time to guys with multi-year contracts.

I think there will be a moment later this season where we see plenty of Sharpe. He's been pretty awful in the two games after the break so far, though.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Chauncey is going with mediocre players that he "trusts." Saw that a lot with Nate McMillan.
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Sharpe has been spoon fed enough minutes and opportunities as it stands.

Occasionally, he'll make a spectacular play. But unfortunately, Portland is usually a better team when he's on the bench.

I like the ~15 minutes of developmental time he gets every game. He's shown signs of being more aggressive recently (which is good) - but he needs to start earning more playing time by being a net positive for the team.
 
Samuel said:
Yes.

I like Nas, but the lack of a backup big move tells me this team isn't serious about competing this year, so evaluation of Reddish's fit is the priority over giving time to guys with multi-year contracts.

I think there will be a moment later this season where we see plenty of Sharpe. He's been pretty awful in the two games after the break so far, though.
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I think giving Thybulle the 6 million qualifying offer is a no-brainer. But as you allude to the 8 million qualifying offer for Cam is not. So let's see what we have.......even if the intention is to use the 8 mil in a trade.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Sharpe has been spoon fed enough minutes and opportunities as it stands.

Occasionally, he'll make a spectacular play. But unfortunately, Portland is usually a better team when he's on the bench.

I like the ~15 minutes of developmental time he gets every game. He's shown signs of being more aggressive recently (which is good) - but he needs to start earning more playing time by being a net positive for the team.
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This is a fine premise.

What has Cam done to " earn" more playing time?
 
illmatic99 said:
This is a fine premise.

What has Cam done to " earn" more playing time?
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Reddish has played well so far with Portland.

Just a quick comparison between Cam (first) & Sharpe (second). Sharpe's numbers are just for the 10 games in February:
TS%: 0.620 vs 0.580
ORtg: 123 vs 112
DRtg: 116 vs 127

These are for Cam in Portland vs full season of Sharpe (don't known how to get the data for a more recent period):
TRB%: 5.2 vs 7.2
AST%: 14.1 vs 4.6
WS/48: .127 vs .034
BPM: -0.6 vs -4.1

I'm not saying Cam has been a star at all... Just that he has been playing decent (ie- not hurting the team by being on the court). Sharpe has yet to advance to that level.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think giving Thybulle the 6 million qualifying offer is a no-brainer. But as you allude to the 8 million qualifying offer for Cam is not. So let's see what we have.......even if the intention is to use the 8 mil in a trade.
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Personally, I'd rather the team offer him a team-friendly multi-year deal vs. the QO if they think he's a good fit. QO players become unrestricted free agents. Those seem to end poorly or expensively for Portland.
 
Samuel said:
Personally, I'd rather the team offer him a team-friendly multi-year deal vs. the QO if they think he's a good fit. QO players become unrestricted free agents. Those seem to end poorly or expensively for Portland.
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Those are not mutually exclusive. Typically you have to offer the QO as a procedural step. The team can also offer a multi-year deal at the same time
 
these are the Western Conference standings right now. Pay attention the the very last column that has the records for every team over their last 10 games:

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I can't recall ever seeing that much parity. What is crazy is that the Blazers, in my recollection, have played pretty shitty over the last 10. Yet, they have only lost 1 game in the standings against 3 teams, and two games against the #1 seed. 6 teams have the same 5-5 record and the Blazers have actually gained a game against 3 teams, two of which are ahead of Portland

the Blazers are 3 wins away from being the 4th seed, and 3 losses away from 6th slot in the lottery. Crazy town
 

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wizenheimer said:
these are the Western Conference standings right now. Pay attention the the very last column that has the records for every team over their last 10 games:

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I can't recall ever seeing that much parity. What is crazy is that the Blazers, in my recollection, have played pretty shitty over the last 10. Yet, they have only lost 1 game in the standings against 3 teams, and two games against the #1 seed. 6 teams have the same 5-5 record and the Blazers have actually gained a game against 3 teams, two of which are ahead of Portland

the Blazers are 3 wins away from being the 4th seed, and 3 losses away from 6th slot in the lottery. Crazy town
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Simply speaking a 6-8 game win streak changes the entire outlook for any team.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Simply speaking a 6-8 game win streak changes the entire outlook for any team.
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yeah, it would. But in the last 20 games of season, teams play their conference opponents a lot more than otherwise. 15 of Portland's last 22 games are against WC teams. All those WC teams still contending for a playoff spot have been taking turns kicking each other's asses all season. Hard to picture any of them putting together that long of a winning streak

I sure can't see the Blazers putting together a streak like that. Their identity this season is inconsistency. That 6 game eastern road trip will be a problem. Worse, is that of their last 22 games, 18 are against teams with better records; and 9 are against top-5 seeds

Blazers have just dug too deep a hole to this point. Bad news for the playoffs IMO. But maybe good news for June 22
 
You knew it was coming, turn away if you must

Knicks have won 7 in a row
Josh Hart registered a +30 off the bench
 
wizenheimer said:
yeah, it would. But in the last 20 games of season, teams play their conference opponents a lot more than otherwise. 15 of Portland's last 22 games are against WC teams. All those WC teams still contending for a playoff spot have been taking turns kicking each other's asses all season. Hard to picture any of them putting together that long of a winning streak

I sure can't see the Blazers putting together a streak like that. Their identity this season is inconsistency. That 6 game eastern road trip will be a problem. Worse, is that of their last 22 games, 18 are against teams with better records; and 9 are against top-5 seeds

Blazers have just dug too deep a hole to this point. Bad news for the playoffs IMO. But maybe good news for June 22
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The team ahead of us keep leaving the door open. 4-2 road trip and we’re right there. I mean, if we had won the last two games, we’d be 8th right now. The smallest streak can lead to jump in standings.
 
All we need is for <thing that only happened once this season when the team was healthy and way different> to happen and we’re right back in it!
 
KingSpeed said:
The team ahead of us keep leaving the door open. 4-2 road trip and we’re right there. I mean, if we had won the last two games, we’d be 8th right now. The smallest streak can lead to jump in standings.
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but exactly what about the last 2 games gives you any hope the Blazers could go 4-2 on the road trip? Which is more likely 4-2 or 2-4? 5-1 or 1-5? Portland is 3-7 over the last 10 games and 8 of those 10 games were at home.

The last time the Blazers beat a top-4 seed was a month ago when they won a game at Memphis. But they had a healthy Nurkic along with Josh Hart, Payton played 29 minutes, and was before Simons went into an extended slump of terrible games before getting injured. They aren't the same team

I understand the 'logic' of why the Blazers traded Hart a lot more than I accept it. But the thing is that Hart was the glue-guy on the team with his constant hustle, rebounding, good defense, tempo, ball-handling, and play-making. Replacing Hart and Payton with Thybulle and Reddish has made Portland a weaker team with a much more fragile nature. And Nurkic and Winslow being out is making things worse, even though Nurkic has never been a cure for being fragile

Dame needs help and he's simply not getting any. There is no consistency at all on this team and I'm sorry to say I think the coaching is truly suspect. That is not a formula for a winning streak. It's certainly not a formula for a solid 6 game road trip to the east, this late in the season. And the entire apparatus is resting on the shaky foundation of a cheap-screw ambivalent ownership, and a management team apparently terrified of luxury tax at the same time they can weigh lottery odds vs the diminishing chances of making the play-in, and even smaller chance of advancing out of it

but sure, other than that things are looking good....wining streak just around the corner!!
 
wizenheimer said:
but exactly what about the last 2 games gives you any hope the Blazers could go 4-2 on the road trip? Which is more likely 4-2 or 2-4? 5-1 or 1-5? Portland is 3-7 over the last 10 games and 8 of those 10 games were at home.
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1 and 5 at this point might be considered a successful road trip
 
Hart has helped the Knicks win 8 straight today.

what's weird is seeing certain people with Blazer credentials still kissing Cronin's ass for that trade, by trying to bring up bad Josh Hart stats.
HUSTLE doesn't always show up in the boxscore.
 
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