Trade Josh Hart traded to the Knicks

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
wizenheimer said:
he essentially told everybody that in an interview when the Knicks visited Portland. He said he was an east coast guy and his wife wanted to return to the east where her family was and also she hated flying
Click to expand...

Being able to get #23 to pay off Chicago + getting Thybulle in another move — IMHO, an improvement. I do miss Hart with his grit, motor and boards.
 
I like Josh and he deserves that money but I’m glad we didn’t give it to him. That’s with the reports of him wanting to go back east aside, I don’t think he fits our timeline anymore. Thybulle is only 26 and he makes almost half what Hart is making now.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I like Josh and he deserves that money but I’m glad we didn’t give it to him. That’s with the reports of him wanting to go back east aside, I don’t think he fits our timeline anymore. Thybulle is only 26 and he makes almost half what Hart is making now.
Click to expand...
yes, it's important we root for Jody Allen making lots of money. Otherwise she might get grumpy and sell the team to an optimistic owner that wants to spend money and see the Blazers win.
 
Whyachi said:
yes, it's important we root for Jody Allen making lots of money. Otherwise she might get grumpy and sell the team to an optimistic owner that wants to spend money and see the Blazers win.
Click to expand...
Hey… if you want to repeat the mistakes of the Olshey era and hand out big contracts to role players, I guess that’s your prerogative.
 
Hart was great to have on the Blazers but his inexplicable allergy to shooting 3s and loss of aggression to the hoop made it 4 on 5. On D and rebounding he was good to go. On O, someone stole his mojo.

Getting a 1st rounder (who I expected would pay off Chicago … but became Kris Murray — really good pick) was a strong return for an undersized SF who was going to get paid more than optimal for a 6th man … somewhere else. Thybulle is the better value. For this team moving forward — Hart vs. Murray? An easy choice for me. Murray.
 
Natebishop3 said:
And yet... you can't put a 6'2 guy on LeBron or Giannis or whoever.
Click to expand...
Im not convinced that there's much of a difference defensively of LeBron vs Hart or LeBron vs Grant

Same with Giannis.

Hart plays with passion, energy, & effort that you just don't see with Grant.

Without considering contracts or roster construction - I pick Hart every single time over Grant
 
Natebishop3 said:
Hey… if you want to repeat the mistakes of the Olshey era and hand out big contracts to role players, I guess that’s your prerogative.
Click to expand...
let's not forget blaming Neil Olshey for everything doesn't hold much water, because Joe Cronin was the #2 guy drafting all the Blazers after Lillard, and stirring up the crummy deals Olshey put together.

If Blazer fans hope Mike Schmitz can turn this team around by rebuilding through the draft, then my prerogative is to say... give up on Cronin and hand the keys to Schmitz. Acquiring veteran role players shouldn't be left to the decisions of Joe Cronin. His history of subpar talent acquisition only speaks for itself.
 
I hate that Grant is not a good rebounder, but overall he's better than Hart, and I love Hart.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I like Josh a lot but I really don’t see the point of paying him that much to be on the blazers. I think it was a good trade.
Click to expand...
If we had been willing to have Simons come off the bench and deal Sharpe for a legit starting 3, then Hart staying and starting at SG would have given us arguably our best and most talented roster since LMA left.

But since that wasn't going to happen, trading him away was the only responsible move.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
If we had been willing to have Simons come off the bench and deal Sharpe for a legit starting 3, then Hart staying and starting at SG would have given us arguably our best and most talented roster since LMA left.

But since that wasn't going to happen, trading him away was the only responsible move.
Click to expand...

Yeah.... unfortunately there's a lot of "ifs" in that scenario.

If Hart didn't (reportedly) actually want to go back east.

If Simons would come off the bench (still I think his best fit on this team).

If we were willing to trade Sharpe (presumably for someone like OG).

The funny thing is that I still think, despite it being arguably our most talented lineup since LMA, that a starting lineup of Dame/Hart/OG/Grant/Nurk is not a contender and at best maybe a second round exit.
 
illmatic99 said:
A terrific rotational player who can defend and rebound at a starting salary around 18 mil is a bargain. I'd rather have Josh at 20 mil AAV than Grant at 32.
Click to expand...

I don't think either player fits the window of this team, and I suspect Grant will be gone either at the deadline or next summer. I guess we'll see if we get more value for Grant than we got for Hart.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't think either player fits the window of this team, and I suspect Grant will be gone either at the deadline or next summer. I guess we'll see if we get more value for Grant than we got for Hart.
Click to expand...
I'm not talking about trade value. I'm talking about on court impact.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top