Jrue Holiday trade ideas

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i just want picks. more if we're taking on fournier.
I’d also just ask for the Mavs ‘24 1st and the other two should be beyond ‘25.

Between the Mavs ‘24 1st and us possibly having our own, that’s plenty for one draft.
 
BOS needs him the most to stay with MIL but I don’t think they pull the trigger. Maybe the Pels?
 


Adding Ben would be like doing what Skip Bayless is doing in this video. It’s about building a team. Ben is just a flashy name.

He's a flashy name? That's a new one to me. I like his passing, defense, and rebounding.
 
Yeh, but i don't think they are giving up Keegan Murray and two FRP's
Not a chance in hell. Matter of fact, I would consider Jrue for Keegan straight up. Plus, Monk is finally developing, so his value is pretty high, too.
 
He's a flashy name? That's a new one to me. I like his passing, defense, and rebounding.
He is. When people think Simmons, they remember the All Defensive teams, passing highlights, etc. while forgetting the obvious flaws in his game that would make him a bad fit on this team. If we didn’t already have Ayton and in a hypothetical world traded Nurk for Turner, then Ben makes a lot of sense as a reclamation project.

There is not enough evidence to suggest Ben can ever be a reliable shooter. He won’t even shoot them. Ayton has at least shown that he can shoot elbow jumpers for us to have some confidence he can be as consistent as Aldridge and eventually stretch out to the 3 like Aldridge did later in his career.

Guys like Batum can defend and pass and shoot. Guys like Horford can defend and shoot. Offnight can defend. All those guys come with more picks. Ben has a lot of pros, cool, so did DA. He has cons as well. Sometimes, the pros outweigh the cons. I was very anti-Ayton because I had little confidence Dame could get any more out of DA that CP3 couldn’t. When Dame got traded, suddenly the pros outweighed the cons. Ben’s cons still outweigh the pros.

If it was Ben + the PHX ‘27 and ‘29 unprotected 1sts, it’s worth the risk. But I don’t think the Nets are taking that deal.
 
I still want Kuminga, if he blows up with playing time we are pretty set for the future.


Would PWill come with more 1sts back? I kind of like PWill and Kuminga equally, but I think the Bulls could be more desperate and offer more picks to get Holiday and get rid of Ball. This year is probably the year they have to decide if it’s go all in or rebuild, so an all in move probably costs the one young guy and the two unprotected 1sts.
 
Would PWill come with more 1sts back? I kind of like PWill and Kuminga equally, but I think the Bulls could be more desperate and offer more picks to get Holiday and get rid of Ball. This year is probably the year they have to decide if it’s go all in or rebuild, so an all in move probably costs the one young guy and the two unprotected 1sts.
What's the deal with Ball? Is he a salary dump?
 
If this trade is on the table and I would bet that it is then we should pull the trigger. Sure we could try to get one more FRP or a 2026 FRP swap and that would be great but this gives us two young prospects at forward, where we need them. After the deadline both Willaims and Terry could be starting unless Jerami yields a pick and a more sizable option at PF. Anyway two good prospects, one ready to start (Williams) and the other promising (Terry) and a bad contract that's only two years (Ball) along with our draft pick back and future first.
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What's the deal with Ball? Is he a salary dump?
A lot of people say his knee injury is career ending, he doesn't but he's ruled out playing this next season at least. He is a negative value contract at 20M per season for the next two seasons.
 

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