Jrue Holiday trade ideas

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No way GSW gives Kuminga + Paul. They have GP2 as well.
 
julius said:
The funniest thing is, Miamis offer wasn't the best AND they talked shit about the Blazers AND their star player is trying to imply tampering (tho you could argue Damians agent did far more tampering than the Blazers could've done).

Even if Jimmy is being sarcastic, there are enough idiot fans out there who believe everything they're told and are allergic to doing any kind of research (or the ability to offer up any kind of mea culpa), so it's doing damage.

So if I'm Portland, I wouldn't even call them back. And what's funny? Miami is acting like they're owed a call back or a return offer from Portland *just* because Damian wanted to go there.

Their assets, at least that they were willing to trade for, were mediocre. Even the supposed "we can trade Herro for a 1st!" line is malarkey. The pick he's worth might as well be a 2nd round pick.
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I don't see how Portland tampered. Dame was their asset. Are they trying to imply they tampered by trying to shop Herro when he was a Miami asset? I was asking if Portland could shop Herro. No one on this board answered.
 
Kuminga does fill our SF need. But to be honest I have never seen him play.

Brogdon + Williams would not be bad. We would have depth at center and we could flip Brogdon once he is healthy.
He does weigh 230 lbs though with a 6'11 wing....can he defend the 3?
 
https://theathletic.com/4908778/2023/09/28/hollinger-damian-lillard-jrue-holiday/

Miami:

Meanwhile, the lower salary of Holiday means that the salary match can be Kyle Lowry, Haywood Highsmith, and either Jaime Jaquez Jr. or Nikola Jović. I’m guessing Miami would have to throw in future firsts in 2028 and ’30 on top of this, but this structure doesn’t present the kind of barriers that Herro’s contract did.

Clippers:

Isn’t it much cleaner for the Clippers just to deal directly with Portland? Why not send them Marcus Morris, Robert Covington, Amir Coffey and Jason Preston, along with unprotected firsts in 2028 and ’30, and then move along with their nice, happy season?

Celtics:

The Celtics can get to a salary match on Holiday, but it’s complicated. Malcolm Brogdon would be involved, but he makes $22 million in 2025-26 and that’s $22 million more than the Blazers want to take back. Additionally, the second contract in a Boston deal has to be either Robert Williams or Al Horford, which nukes the Celtics’ frontcourt depth … unless they make the salary match Brogdon, Payton Pritchard, Luke Kornet, Sam Hauser, Jordan Walsh and a signed-and-traded Blake Griffin instead. A six-for-one. Whew.

Unlike a lot of contenders, the Celtics still have all their future picks to trade, plus they turned Marcus Smart into a future first from Golden State that is now available to put in a deal like this. Boston could offer five firsts if it wanted: 2024, ’26, ’28 (lesser of their own or San Antonio’s), and ’30, plus the Warriors’ top-4 protected pick this year.

The problem for Portland is Boston is good and should be for many years with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown still in their mid-20s. The picks the Blazers would get would almost certainly be in the 20s. Ditto for that Warriors pick, too. It almost doesn’t matter the quantity, because what are the odds of getting a lottery-level pick quality out of this? I’d much rather own fewer end-of-decade picks from, say, the Clippers.

Between that and the fact that extending Holiday would make the Celtics shockingly expensive in two years, I’m a little less bullish on this one. But if Boston could pull this off while keeping Williams and Horford out of the trade, oh my goodness this defense. Nobody would ever score on them. And in terms of the sheer quantity of draft picks, this is the way for Portland to get the most.
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Don't fuck up the Holiday trade, Joe. You can't fuck this one up.
 
illmatic99 said:
Who cares if we get Kuminga and a pick.

Scoot/Simons/Sharpe/Kuminga/Ayton is a ridiculous sub 25 starting point for any rebuild. Teams take years to accumulate such assets.
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Won't happen though.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Depending on where our pick ends up, some of the best players so far are small forwards or power forwards.
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bpa, don't draft for "need". If this is a multi-year rebuild, the Blazers will "need" highly talented frontline depth.
 
Natebishop3 said:
With the way Miami is trying to save face and throw Joe under the bus, I don’t think we will be sending Jrue to Miami.
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I think NBA GMs can put their petty differences aside to make a deal that benefits their teams. And Miami can spin it by saying they got a player that fits them even better than Dame (The DameStopper) with fewer years at a lower salary for a lower cost. The media will eat up how Riley fleeced Joe in the end.

That being said, f*** Pat Riley. I have hated him for decades and will hate him for decades more.
 
maxiep said:
I think NBA GMs can put their petty differences aside to make a deal that benefits their teams. And Miami can spin it by saying they got a player that fits them even better than Dame (The DameStopper) with fewer years at a lower salary for a lower cost. The media will eat up how Riley fleeced Joe in the end.

That being said, f*** Pat Riley. I have hated him for decades and will hate him for decades more.
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Yes... I'd assume most these front offices don't let emotions control their decision making. Hard to get to the top if you behave in that matter.
 
Three teamer.

To GS:
- Holiday

To Spurs:
- Paul
- Trayce Jackson-Davis

To POR:
- Kuminga
- McDermott
- Birch
- Osman
- 2024 1st from CHA (lottery protected)
- 2027 1st from GS (lottery protected)
 
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