Keep Lillard, McCollum, Plumlee and Crabbe.

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Everyone else is expendable.

I've seen enough. We are losing to mediocre teams on our own home court, and that is unacceptable. Burn it down. Cut your losses. Whatever expression suits you. We need a major revamping of this team.
 
We are not going to be able to get rid of Turner, so we need to package Crabbe + Picks to upgrade the front court. We're not going to be able to afford Plumdog, so we might as well trade him since he has value.
 
Harkless is tradeable. We have picks but I'd rather keep them unless we're getting a long term guy (Noel, Nurkic, etc)

Crabbe will probably end up getting traded and I'm going to hate it, but whatever.

Leonard, Davis, and Ezeli are probably gone as well
 
Then who do we have to actually trade for something good? Vonleh and a pick? Meyers may get us a 2 month supply of Oscar Meyer weiners... but beyond that..

Yes fucking please
 
Harkless is tradeable. We have picks but I'd rather keep them unless we're getting a long term guy (Noel, Nurkic, etc)

Crabbe will probably end up getting traded and I'm going to hate it, but whatever.

Leonard, Davis, and Ezeli are probably gone as well

I'm one of Harkless' biggest fans... but as this team is, whatever it takes to make it better... he can go too.
 
Then who do we have to actually trade for something good? Vonleh and a pick? Meyers may get us a 2 month supply of Oscar Meyer weiners... but beyond that..

He means, redesign the team by trading Connaughton and Quarterman. To solve the 2-month supply of ketchup and mustard. Still got a bun problem.
 
I would keep Aminu over Crabbe if we're only picking 4. We were GOD AWFUL when Aminu didn't play. Do you guys not remember how bad the D was? it may not be great now but it was historically bad when Aminu was out.
 
Trade anyone on the team if you can get a good deal. This game didn't change my thinking, but since we're talking, no one on this team should be sacrosanct--Lillard's a fine player, but not a transcendent talent that you never consider trading. I don't think this team is viable with just tweaks and I think building around Lillard/McCollum, while maybe not impossible, will make creating a title contender much harder.

Given a choice, I'd keep Lillard, but if you can get a nicer deal for Lillard, trade him. McCollum looks like he can be a dominant scorer in his own right.
 
I love harkless but honestly anybody besides Lillard and CJ are up for grabs in my opinion. We need a rim protector, maybe a veteran. A lot of solid guys out there who would boost this team into a better one at least. I have seen enough of whatever experiment is going on here. If I could spare a player besides Dame and CJ, I would spare harkless only for the fact he is really young and still has potential. I don't see Vonleh developing at all, we were better off keeping Batum honestly.
 
Batum is averaging 15,6, and 7. I wish we would of kept him. Crabbe is getting paid damn near what Batum is too. Crazy
 
4 players untouchable on not even a .500 team. Good thing your not the GM!
 
Trade anyone on the team if you can get a good deal. This game didn't change my thinking, but since we're talking, no one on this team should be sacrosanct--Lillard's a fine player, but not a transcendent talent that you never consider trading. I don't think this team is viable with just tweaks and I think building around Lillard/McCollum, while maybe not impossible, will make creating a title contender much harder.

Given a choice, I'd keep Lillard, but if you can get a nicer deal for Lillard, trade him. McCollum looks like he can be a dominant scorer in his own right.
No dude. Lillard wants to play his whole career for us and he wants to bring a title to Portland and not simply ring-chase on other teams. It's going to be hard to get that dedication from another player in the trade.
 
No dude. Lillard wants to play his whole career for us and he wants to bring a title to Portland and not simply ring-chase on other teams.

That's great, but most people who enter marriages also want it to last forever. Things don't always go the way we dreamed they would.

Sentiment is nice and all, but I'm more interested in fielding the strongest team possible.
 
That's great, but most people who enter marriages also want it to last forever. Things don't always go the way we dreamed they would.

Sentiment is nice and all, but I'm more interested in fielding the strongest team possible.
So is he. That is why we should keep him. He is a rare breed. A superstar who likes Portland and wants to play here.
 
no one on this team should be sacrosanct--Lillard's a fine player, but not a transcendent talent that you never consider trading...if you can get a nicer deal for Lillard, trade him. McCollum looks like he can be a dominant scorer in his own right.

4 players untouchable on not even a .500 team. Good thing your not the GM!

Right. Keep McCollum, not Lillard.

I don't see Vonleh developing at all, we were better off keeping Batum honestly.

Batum is averaging 15,6, and 7. I wish we would of kept him. Crabbe is getting paid damn near what Batum is too. Crazy

Batum had ego about starting and his replacements don't. Batum wouldn't have accepted the present lineup flexibility.

No dude. Lillard wants to play his whole career for us and he wants to bring a title to Portland and not simply ring-chase on other teams. It's going to be hard to get that dedication from another player in the trade.

Lillards contributions transcends what he does on the hardwood. Completely off the table

So is he. That is why we should keep him. He is a rare breed. A superstar who likes Portland and wants to play here.

Nonsense. It's easy to get players to stay here. Especially when we overpay like Olshey does.

That's great, but most people who enter marriages also want it to last forever. Things don't always go the way we dreamed they would. Sentiment is nice and all, but I'm more interested in fielding the strongest team possible.

Wow, you sound like a real team player!
 
That's great, but most people who enter marriages also want it to last forever. Things don't always go the way we dreamed they would.

Sentiment is nice and all, but I'm more interested in fielding the strongest team possible.

And I'm interested in keeping franchise players that make a real commitment to the team as well as the community, while showcasing true leadership. The team is fundamentally flawed in its makeup. You address the flaws not the foundation
 
We should absolutely keep him until we can improve in a trade involving him. Which may or may not ever happen.

And then trade the guy we traded him for. Then trade that guy again to improve. Just repeat until we incrementally improve until we win the championship!
 
The only way forward is to move either Dame or CJ, in whatever sort of package deal it takes to land a Paul George / Kawhi Leonard / Anthony Davis / KAT type two-way talent. Kawhi is obviously a much slimmer chance, given that his team isn't struggling.

Hold onto one of the back court clones and pair them with whatever complimentary talent we have left, which is basically the whole roster presently. Add a role player at the other guard position, a la Ron Harper or Patrick Beverly.
 
And I'm interested in keeping franchise players that make a real commitment to the team as well as the community, while showcasing true leadership. The team is fundamentally flawed in its makeup. You address the flaws not the foundation

The foundation is the flaw.
 
The foundation is the flaw.

Lillard is the only part of the foundation and he isn't the flaw. It's like Harden and the Rockets last year. Just need to make some adjustments. I mean half a season of underperforming and y'all ready to blow it all up. I don't sense the urgency to replace either tbh. so we won't win the championship this year. Boo.

Just get a power forward who can put the ball on the floor and some interior defense then adjust from there.
 
I'm one of Harkless' biggest fans... but as this team is, whatever it takes to make it better... he can go too.

Im with ya.

Trade anyone on the team if you can get a good deal. This game didn't change my thinking, but since we're talking, no one on this team should be sacrosanct--Lillard's a fine player, but not a transcendent talent that you never consider trading. I don't think this team is viable with just tweaks and I think building around Lillard/McCollum, while maybe not impossible, will make creating a title contender much harder.

Given a choice, I'd keep Lillard, but if you can get a nicer deal for Lillard, trade him. McCollum looks like he can be a dominant scorer in his own right.

We must keep Lillard.

No dude. Lillard wants to play his whole career for us and he wants to bring a title to Portland and not simply ring-chase on other teams. It's going to be hard to get that dedication from another player in the trade.


Lets compare the two. LMA, never DID anything that showed us he loved it here. It was all gossip and words blown out of his arse.

Dame has ALREADY done more than talk, when he signed the new contract without an optout. That is more than most players have ever committed to for us.
That ALONE should be the reason we dont trade him.
Dame and CJ are untradable. CJ is ONLY tradable if we get what we need in a package of equal or better value.... Whiteside, or a Noel and a pick.

Dame is the face and the leader of this Franchise, he has said so and has BACKED UP HIS WORDS with the money. Unlike other two faced players being mentioned here.

Comparing Dame and LMA are like comparing apples to guacamole.
Not even close.
 
Lets compare the two. LMA, never DID anything that showed us he loved it here. It was all gossip and words blown out of his arse.

Dame has ALREADY done more than talk, when he signed the new contract without an optout. That is more than most players have ever committed to for us.
That ALONE should be the reason we dont trade him.
Dame and CJ are untradable. CJ is ONLY tradable if we get what we need in a package of equal or better value.... Whiteside, or a Noel and a pick.

Dame is the face and the leader of this Franchise, he has said so and has BACKED UP HIS WORDS with the money. Unlike other two faced players being mentioned here.

Comparing Dame and LMA are like comparing apples to guacamole.
Not even close.
All I said was things change. Damian is already creeping up on thirty. If the Blazers are no closer to sniffing a title in two or three years, then what should he do?

It's all well and good to talk about loyalty, and I do believe Damian is sincere right now, but the simple fact is that almost nobody finishes their career at one stop. Trades happen, free agency happens, and age happens.
 
All I said was things change. Damian is already creeping up on thirty. If the Blazers are no closer to sniffing a title in two or three years, then what should he do?

It's all well and good to talk about loyalty, and I do believe Damian is sincere right now, but the simple fact is that almost nobody finishes their career at one stop. Trades happen, free agency happens, and age happens.
Dame is in the first year of a 5 year contract. We have 2-3 years to figure this out before we need to think about trading Dame. If we cant be a contender in 2-3 years, then yes, opinions will change. but as of now, he is untouchable.
 

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