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Make the pick for the Future.....or trade it for 'now'?

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Blazers are currently tied with NY for the 9th-worst record on the league. Given the way these guys are playing and the remaining schedule, I don't think there's much chance these Blazers finish lower than that. Unless they hit a post all-star break swoon, they're likely outside the top 10, if they keep their pick at all.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Blazers are currently tied with NY for the 9th-worst record on the league. Given the way these guys are playing and the remaining schedule, I don't think there's much chance these Blazers finish lower than that. Unless they hit a post all-star break swoon, they're likely outside the top 10, if they keep their pick at all.
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yeah, looking at the pelicans schedule and the money is on that pick being our best bet at a top 8 pick.
 
Scalma said:


Things this guy can do athletically is elite. Give him to Billups and he’ll turn him into a top player. He’s the guy I want the most, not including any of the top 3 we have no shot at
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A little bit of Julius Randle there. His free throw stroke looks good. Thanks for sharing.
 
Hard to believe Duren is 56 % from line. Form is good.
 
tykendo said:
A little bit of Julius Randle there. His free throw stroke looks good. Thanks for sharing.
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tykendo said:
Hard to believe Duren is 56 % from line. Form is good.
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Yeah he’s got a lot of potential but I view him more as a defensive minded type right now than a Julius Randle. Someone threw out Robert Williams as a comp and that’s pretty good, although I think Duren is taller, stronger, and has a higher ceiling. And he’s very young, he doesn’t turn 19 until next season.
 
tykendo said:
A little bit of Julius Randle there. His free throw stroke looks good. Thanks for sharing.
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Way more motor and athleticism than Randle. Durren would be a great fit. I'd rather keep him than trade him for Jerami Grant.
 
would an expert care to highlight examples of tanking culiminating in quick championships ?
 
maybe the worst thing about Portland's pick situation is that there's a real possibility the Blazers give up a 15th or 16th pick for 37 games of Larry Nance. That's almost as bad as Portland giving up Will Barton and a 19th pick for 25 games of Arron Afflalo. Thanks Neil
 
wizenheimer said:
Spurs. They tanked for Duncan and won a title in his 2nd season. Won 4 more after that
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they had no choice, they had multiple major injuries. Robinson missed essentially the whole season. That’s not tanking that’s just being shit. Portland isn’t even close to being as bad as they were.

anyways that goes back to my main point. The only time tanking makes sense is when you’re a bottom 3 type team and there’s a generational talent in the draft. Neither is the case now.
 
AmirIcon said:
Way more motor and athleticism than Randle. Durren would be a great fit. I'd rather keep him than trade him for Jerami Grant.
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Interestingly, one of the knocks on Duren is his inconsistent motor. When he's on, he is tenacious. But he has stretches where he tends to check out.
 
I’m really torn on tank, I want Simon to get as much pressure basketball this year so that next year he knows what to expect in the playoffs. A play in game wouldn’t be the end of the world.

if we lose the pick at least we’ll be able to trade future 1st round picks.
 
TBpup said:
Interestingly, one of the knocks on Duren is his inconsistent motor. When he's on, he is tenacious. But he has stretches where he tends to check out.
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Not a fan of guys who’s motor shuts on and off
 
1 Eye Jack said:
I’m really torn on tank, I want Simon to get as much pressure basketball this year so that next year he knows what to expect in the playoffs. A play in game wouldn’t be the end of the world.

if we lose the pick at least we’ll be able to trade future 1st round picks.
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I hate people who comment on their own comment but screw it I’m doing it. I think we are most likely trading one or two of the picks away anyways
 
1 Eye Jack said:
I hate people who comment on their own comment but screw it I’m doing it. I think we are most likely trading one or two of the picks away anyways
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I’d be shocked if they ended up using both picks on rookies, assuming they get two picks of course. They also have a second don’t they?

edit: they also have two seconds.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Not a fan of guys who’s motor shuts on and off
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I think that might be why he has fallen in some Mock Draft projections, He was in the 5-7 range in some of them. He has now fallen to the late Lottery. Could be lethal if he can find a consistent motor and hone his offensive skills.

On the other hand, Nzosa is someone who was projected very highly, and then fell off due to an injury. I don't think he forgot how to be a defensive menace. I expect him to start climbing back up.
 
Im Team Chet but the #1 spot is firmly in the Jabari camp.

Jabari = Peja Stojakovic with defense. His elite shot and smooth in-between game would flourish in the Billupsball system.

Ivey may leap Banchero at #3 IMO
 
Scalma said:
they had no choice, they had multiple major injuries. Robinson missed essentially the whole season. That’s not tanking that’s just being shit. Portland isn’t even close to being as bad as they were.

anyways that goes back to my main point. The only time tanking makes sense is when you’re a bottom 3 type team and there’s a generational talent in the draft. Neither is the case now.
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probably true

the thing is though, whether it was an unintentional tank by circumstance, or a tank by design (IIRC there was some of that), the result is still the same: the #1 draft pick. With a lottery, each loss can be a building block to a high pick

that said, I'm not in favor of Portland taking an intentional dive in games the rest of the way
 
Scalma said:


Things this guy can do athletically is elite. Give him to Billups and he’ll turn him into a top player. He’s the guy I want the most, not including any of the top 3 we have no shot at
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He’s my mid-lotto target if we miss out on Smith/Chet/Banchero/Ivey
 
Fez Forthright said:
Im Team Chet but the #1 spot is firmly in the Jabari camp.

Jabari = Peja Stojakovic with defense. His elite shot and smooth in-between game would flourish in the Billupsball system.

Ivey may leap Banchero at #3 IMO
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lol at the Peja comparison. 2 completely different styles.
 
Scalma said:
they had no choice, they had multiple major injuries. Robinson missed essentially the whole season. That’s not tanking that’s just being shit. Portland isn’t even close to being as bad as they were.

anyways that goes back to my main point. The only time tanking makes sense is when you’re a bottom 3 type team and there’s a generational talent in the draft. Neither is the case now.
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Robinson’s injury healed but they held him out.
 
Cleveland 2002-03 wasn’t a great team but they intentionally tanked the end of that season to get LeBron. I think John (Jerry?) Lucas even admitted it.
 
MickZagger said:
I think Agbaji from Kansas is a very underrated prospect. Kid can ball.
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Really like his shooting. Looks pretty comfortable pulling up too or making the next pass if he's ran off the line.

He doesn't feel like great value in the lotto though. His defense, handle and overall passing don't stand out as positives to me. Just ok size.
 
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