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An Oblermann/Hannity show would be worth watching if balanced partisan hackery is your thing.
 
Bravo. This comment is very accurate. Why does it matter to you?
 
PapaG said:
An Oblermann/Hannity show would be worth watching if balanced partisan hackery is your thing.
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That would be way better than the Hannity and Colmes combo. Hannity is probably the best right wing spin artist around, and Colmes is nowhere near that in terms of presenting the left wing point of view.
 
I'm not even a Lib and I love Olberman. Yet I lean to the right and I hate Hannity. I'm kind of a confused person.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Why don't we let people marry barnyard animals as well?
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Are you actually, honestly, trying to compare a person who is gay, with a barnyard animal?

I mean, really? Do you understand just how offensive that kind of comment is? Are you unaware of the fact that a consenting adult is not the same as a barnyard animal?
 
julius said:
Are you actually, honestly, trying to compare a person who is gay, with a barnyard animal?

I mean, really? Do you understand just how offensive that kind of comment is? Are you unaware of the fact that a consenting adult is not the same as a barnyard animal?
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Actually, I wasn't and that thought never occured to me.

However, since I now see how it may have been taken, I do apologize.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Why don't we let people marry barnyard animals as well?
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*sigh* if a barnyard animal had human will and intelligence, you might have a point. But you don't.

I repeat the original statement: Why do you care? What does it matter to you? They aren't hurting you. They aren't beating down your door forcing you to adopt their lifestyle or their sexuality (as you are doing to them through your indifference, or worse, your actions).
 
barfo said:
And, what? Gay people don't have hearts?

barfo
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Look, I made an honest mistake, and apologized. I wrote before I thought and what I wrote was intended to be a joke about twisting Oberman's words around.

If you want to have some fun kicking me around for it, fine.

But please, go to hell.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Sadly, I won't be there. Send me a post card.
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...well then it's a good thing that this whole "hell" concept is an individual one at best and if I want you in "my hell", then you'll be there working for "the devil" at the door!!! :devilwink:
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Why don't we let people marry barnyard animals as well?
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Do you know any barnyard animals capable of making a legal commitment?

Keep your fucking insults to yourself.

I saw on local news the first couple to have their marriage stopped. Their appointment was Nov. 5. Prop H8 was leading but not yet declared passed. They got the license, started the ceremony in their matching tuxes and flowers, and partway through Prop H8 was certified as having passed, so the ceremony had to be halted. They were middle aged men and both broke down sobbing.

Take your fucking barnyard animal comparison and stick it right up your ass. And I do not apologize for the language.

You can't have it both ways, you know. 18,000 same sex couples were married between May and November. My cousin among them. Now the bigots are trying to take away the marriages that have already happened. About 8000 of those couples have children. They would become out of wedlock children, in plain language, bastards. All this in the name of protecting marriage and protecting children.

You can't take away what people most cherish, gloat over it, and they say, gee, let's all shake hands now.

Fuck you and your barnyard animals.
 
crandc said:
Do you know any barnyard animals capable of making a legal commitment?

Keep your fucking insults to yourself.

I saw on local news the first couple to have their marriage stopped. Their appointment was Nov. 5. Prop H8 was leading but not yet declared passed. They got the license, started the ceremony in their matching tuxes and flowers, and partway through Prop H8 was certified as having passed, so the ceremony had to be halted. They were middle aged men and both broke down sobbing.

Take your fucking barnyard animal comparison and stick it right up your ass. And I do not apologize for the language.

You can't have it both ways, you know. 18,000 same sex couples were married between May and November. My cousin among them. Now the bigots are trying to take away the marriages that have already happened. About 8000 of those couples have children. They would become out of wedlock children, in plain language, bastards. All this in the name of protecting marriage and protecting children.

You can't take away what people most cherish, gloat over it, and they say, gee, let's all shake hands now.

Fuck you and your barnyard animals.
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+1 :clap:
 
Guys, say what you need to say but try not to attack each other.
 
Some of the no on prop 8 people should start a proposition to have a constitutional amendment banning marriage between a man and a woman.
 
Obi make some good points, and no one is telling Gays that they cannot love and have relationships. Gays should have all of the rights that all of us have. But marriage is, has been and always will be about a 1 man and 1 women. If marriage should be a right to all who are in love, shouldn't we allow polygamy? If a brother and sister are in love, shouldn't we allow them to get married? By making an exception to allow same sex marriages, you are opening the door to a much broader issue.

And also, I am tired of Gays comparing themselves to Blacks. It is a disgrace and one that over 70% of Blacks in California agree with. They voted overwhelmingly to pass Prop 8. You cannot change from being Black to being white. But you supposedly can change from being straight to being gay. Look at Lindsey Lohan. She is in love with a women, but says she isn't gay. I don't think that is a genetic thing. Most gays say they were born that way. Huh? It is a behavioral choice, and a choice that is their right. They should never be persecuted for it. I will stand with them for their true civil rights against hate crimes and wrongful termination. But Marriage? No. They have the same rights I have when it comes to marriage. If they want to get married, they can get married to someone of the opposite sex. Just because they don't like the choices doesn't mean that the government should have to support it and give them the same tax benifits that traditional marriages receive.
 
You are wrong on a couple things.

First of all, before last tuesday, marriage was between 2 individuals. It had nothing to do with 1 man and 1 woman. That was what prop 8 was about. Before 1967 marriage was between 1 white man and 1 white woman in most states. So dont say it has been and always will be yada yada nonsense. Furthermore, a big supporter of prop 8 was the Mormons. They are a religion that has embraced poligamy in the past.

You think being gay is a choice? If being gay is a choice, then that is implying that gays are attracted to both men and women but choose to be with a memeber of the same sex. The corollary to that is to say that straight people are attracted to both sexes but choose to sleep with members of the opposite sex. So i ask you this, are you sexually attracted to men but just choose not to sleep with them? I know that is not the case for me and not the case for any other straight or gay Ive talked to.

Whether gay is genetic or not, I dont think anyone really chooses to be gay.

How is comparing gay rights different to Black rights? They are both a minorty group that is being discriminated against.
 
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Furball said:
Obi make some good points, and no one is telling Gays that they cannot love and have relationships. Gays should have all of the rights that all of us have. But marriage is, has been and always will be about a 1 man and 1 women. If marriage should be a right to all who are in love, shouldn't we allow polygamy? If a brother and sister are in love, shouldn't we allow them to get married? By making an exception to allow same sex marriages, you are opening the door to a much broader issue.

And also, I am tired of Gays comparing themselves to Blacks. It is a disgrace and one that over 70% of Blacks in California agree with. They voted overwhelmingly to pass Prop 8. You cannot change from being Black to being white. But you supposedly can change from being straight to being gay. Look at Lindsey Lohan. She is in love with a women, but says she isn't gay. I don't think that is a genetic thing. Most gays say they were born that way. Huh? It is a behavioral choice, and a choice that is their right. They should never be persecuted for it. I will stand with them for their true civil rights against hate crimes and wrongful termination. But Marriage? No. They have the same rights I have when it comes to marriage. If they want to get married, they can get married to someone of the opposite sex. Just because they don't like the choices doesn't mean that the government should have to support it and give them the same tax benifits that traditional marriages receive.
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bullshit.

friends i have that are gay knew they were gay when they were 10 years old, if not younger. you sound like a bigot.

imagine somebody telling you you are faking who you are, and calling you a liar, just for being yourself.
 
Furball said:
Obi make some good points, and no one is telling Gays that they cannot love and have relationships. Gays should have all of the rights that all of us have. But marriage is, has been and always will be about a 1 man and 1 women. If marriage should be a right to all who are in love, shouldn't we allow polygamy? If a brother and sister are in love, shouldn't we allow them to get married? By making an exception to allow same sex marriages, you are opening the door to a much broader issue.

And also, I am tired of Gays comparing themselves to Blacks. It is a disgrace and one that over 70% of Blacks in California agree with. They voted overwhelmingly to pass Prop 8. You cannot change from being Black to being white. But you supposedly can change from being straight to being gay. Look at Lindsey Lohan. She is in love with a women, but says she isn't gay. I don't think that is a genetic thing. Most gays say they were born that way. Huh? It is a behavioral choice, and a choice that is their right. They should never be persecuted for it. I will stand with them for their true civil rights against hate crimes and wrongful termination. But Marriage? No. They have the same rights I have when it comes to marriage. If they want to get married, they can get married to someone of the opposite sex. Just because they don't like the choices doesn't mean that the government should have to support it and give them the same tax benifits that traditional marriages receive.
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is you being an ignorant redneck a behavioral choice?
 
Furball said:
Obi make some good points, and no one is telling Gays that they cannot love and have relationships. Gays should have all of the rights that all of us have. But marriage is, has been and always will be about a 1 man and 1 women. If marriage should be a right to all who are in love, shouldn't we allow polygamy? If a brother and sister are in love, shouldn't we allow them to get married? By making an exception to allow same sex marriages, you are opening the door to a much broader issue.

And also, I am tired of Gays comparing themselves to Blacks. It is a disgrace and one that over 70% of Blacks in California agree with. They voted overwhelmingly to pass Prop 8. You cannot change from being Black to being white. But you supposedly can change from being straight to being gay. Look at Lindsey Lohan. She is in love with a women, but says she isn't gay. I don't think that is a genetic thing. Most gays say they were born that way. Huh? It is a behavioral choice, and a choice that is their right. They should never be persecuted for it. I will stand with them for their true civil rights against hate crimes and wrongful termination. But Marriage? No. They have the same rights I have when it comes to marriage. If they want to get married, they can get married to someone of the opposite sex. Just because they don't like the choices doesn't mean that the government should have to support it and give them the same tax benifits that traditional marriages receive.
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You know that same sex partners could marry in Greek and Roman societies...the most modern ancient societies....marriage wasn't "between a man and woman" until the Catholic church issued a catechism in the 17th century, so given it was from the Catholic Church, I don't get why all the protestants jump on it as there reasons...only Catholics like me could jump on that as reasoning.
 
As far as I'm concerned, gays marrying gays is fine. Should they adopt, though, I'd just have reservations about them denying their child(ren) the natural right to having, both, a mother and a father.
 
Why does it matter to me?

Doesn't matter why it matters to me?

What matters is if enough American citizens vote to ban this through the constitution.

If the entire country votes to make posting on message boards unconsitutional and it passes with all the required checks and balances then TOUGH SHIT.

If we want to make it constitutional that it is ok to kick your dog and throw it out of a moving car, we can.

You can fight it in court if you want, or you can ask people to reconsider and repeal the laws.

Keep pushing and maybe, just maybe people will get sick of homosexuality enough that we pass something that bans it from tv or from being mentioned in school.

We could pass a constitutional amendment that bans homosexuality itself. I'd vote for it. Then I would vote to make it legal for people to marry barnyard animals just to rub it in a bit. :ohno:

Personally, I don't have any reason to be against civil unions for homosexuals. Don't really care what they do.

I really honestly wouldn't vote to ban gay marriage really, just don't care.

I just honestly wish the whole thing would go away, but in a country where we let illegal immigrants roam freely what would you expect?
 
That is the whole problem with Liberal agenda. If I don't agree with what you do, I'm a bigot or ignorant. Why can't I have a different opinion, and why can't I believe that marriage should be between a man and a women?

I also believe in affirmative action and I'm a Republican. What does that make me?

I'm an educated city boy who has had gay friends and relatives. I think they are wonderful people, even if my religious beliefs do not agree with their life style. How am I a bigot?

Maybe there is something in the genes that makes people gay. There is not a lick of scientific evidence of this. Alcholism, yes. Gayness, no. There are some people who are gay because they like to be different. Just like the people who walk around with Mowhawks.

And being gay does not make you a minority. That is ridiculous that a behavior would be considered a protected class.

Answer this for me.
Should a mother be allowed to marry her 18 year old son?
Should a brother be able to marry his sister if both are adults?
Should a man be able to have more than 1 wife?
Why do we look at those as taboo, but homosexual marriage should be accepted?
It's because marriage should be between a Man and woman.
 
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