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WTF ESPN TRADE Machine and ShamSports have him listed 2 years 3.7 per

we gotta pay that? does it count towards cap? hows it work
 
He has a small buyout. It was mostly done for possible future trades (ala David Wesley last year).
 
A player can't be signed and traded (like KVH was) unless they have at least a 3 year deal. Now the way around that is to only have the first year guaranteed.

The beauty of KVH's contract is that he can be trade and his salary can count in the trade math, but as soon as the trade is completed, KVH's contract can be bought out for a very cheap price.

So yes, technically his contract is on the Nets cap for that amount, but KVH will never get that full amount from the Nets or any other team.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 13 2008, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A player can't be signed and traded (like KVH was) unless they have at least a 3 year deal. Now the way around that is to only have the first year guaranteed.

The beauty of KVH's contract is that he can be trade and his salary can count in the trade math, but as soon as the trade is completed, KVH's contract can be bought out for a very cheap price.

So yes, technically his contract is on the Nets cap for that amount, but KVH will never get that full amount from the Nets or any other team.</div>

And the Nets will no doubt be paying that small buyout in any deal they make...so the other team gets to dump whoever they're trying to dump and has to pay nothing but KVH's airfare to and from his physical. If the Nets involved KVH in a deal with Denver, they could send a car out to his house to pick him up.


I assume KVH's deal mirrors that of David Wesley's from last year. Wesley announced he was retiring but never put his retirement papers in. He has $1.75 million contract with a $250,000 buyout. So the Nets traded Ilic and Robinson and cash considerations to the Hornets for Wesley just before the season began. As soon as all three passed their physicals, they were released. It was the second time Wesley's contract had been traded. He had gone from the Cavs to the Hornets in return for Cedric Simmons.
 
I don't remember his trade number, but I think it was something like $4.7M. The buyout is maybe $300K? (Sorry if I'm off. Can't look it up from here.)
I also think he has to be traded before Oct. 1.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 13 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't remember his trade number, but I think it was something like $4.7M. The buyout is maybe $300K? (Sorry if I'm off. Can't look it up from here.)
I also think he has to be traded before Oct. 1.</div>

about $4.8 million.
 
id like to package KVH contract and the 3.3 trade exempt and swift.... to get someone :/


BUT WHO!?!?!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 13 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry. Can't combine those.

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really? u cant trade kvh contract... with a trade exempt + swift to get someone?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 13 2008, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 13 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry. Can't combine those.

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really? u cant trade kvh contract... with a trade exempt + swift to get someone?
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Yes it is true. You can not combine a TE with a player
 
then how did the mavs trade us the TE with the jason kidd trade? or am i goin crazy?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 13 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>then how did the mavs trade us the TE with the jason kidd trade? or am i goin crazy?</div>

A TE is created when there is a difference in salaries and the team receiving less salary is over the cap.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 13 2008, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>then how did the mavs trade us the TE with the jason kidd trade? or am i goin crazy?</div>

Since the Nets and Mavs traded so many players it was 2 different trades. One involved the TE and a player. Then JKidd was bundled with others, and traded a group of players.

-Petey
 
ahhhh ok ok thank you

edit: wait what can we use the TE for?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 13 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ahhhh ok ok thank you

edit: wait what can we use the TE for?</div>

To trade


You just can't package it with a player.
 
TE can be traded for a player who has a salary equal to or less than the amount of the TE.
 
Anything else we could use the exception for?

I thought we could use it to sign a player, but I'm not sure, because I barely know anything about TE's.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 13 2008, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anything else we could use the exception for?

I thought we could use it to sign a player, but I'm not sure, because I barely know anything about TE's.</div>

I think you can use it to pick guys off waivers.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jul 13 2008, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 13 2008, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anything else we could use the exception for?

I thought we could use it to sign a player, but I'm not sure, because I barely know anything about TE's.</div>

I think you can use it to pick guys off waivers.
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There we go, that's it. I remember using it for...who, Elden Campbell?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 13 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jul 13 2008, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 13 2008, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anything else we could use the exception for?

I thought we could use it to sign a player, but I'm not sure, because I barely know anything about TE's.</div>

I think you can use it to pick guys off waivers.
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There we go, that's it. I remember using it for...who, Elden Campbell?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jul 13 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 13 2008, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anything else we could use the exception for?

I thought we could use it to sign a player, but I'm not sure, because I barely know anything about TE's.</div>

I think you can use it to pick guys off waivers.
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Yeah [Eden Campbell), but can't use it to sign players.

-Petey
 

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