Kevin Love sweepstakes

[riverman]

I think the Blazers are waiting to see what happens on the teams with too many guaranteed contracts. I love Ed, but he's not the answer. There is a chance to add somebody that could help the mission. Patience.

Your 3rd string center isn't going to move any needle...he's an insurance, foul trouble piece...and Big Ed won't complain about being that guy...KLove, Lamarcus and Boogie probably would and demand Greg Brown's 8 minutes on the court....we're not looking for a rotation player for the money we've got to spend...we're trying to replace Harry Giles...I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Giles back either..I'd rather Ed was teaching Brown than Harry though

 

[blazerkor]

Does any team (like New Orleans) have actual cap room? If some team offered him, say, 10 M, he might be prepared to give Cleveland back 9M...

According to what I can see, just OKC is sitting with cap space right now at 20M. Everyone else looks like they're either over the cap or in the case of the Spurs only a couple 100k under.

 

[tykendo]

Your 3rd string center isn't going to move any needle...he's an insurance, foul trouble piece...and Big Ed won't complain about being that guy...KLove, Lamarcus and Boogie probably would and demand Greg Brown's 8 minutes on the court....we're not looking for a rotation player for the money we've got to spend...we're trying to replace Harry Giles...I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Giles back either..I'd rather Ed was teaching Brown than Harry though

Brown is a couple years off from being really ready. He's so raw. I'd rather add a talent who can actually add some help to THIS YEAR'S team. I'm not worried about 3 years from now. Like Elvis sang, It's Now or Never

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Love has always sucked on defense....

 

[riverman]

Brown is a couple years off from being really ready. He's so raw. I'd rather add a talent who can actually add some help to THIS YEAR'S team. I'm not worried about 3 years from now. Like Elvis sang, It's Now or Never

Ed Davis was the highest rated defensive bench player when he was in Portland ..he's a rebounding screen setting backup who doesn't need to shoot....that help's this years team...and like I said...you're not getting better talent at the 14th roster position and if you do they won't be happy as a third string player

 

[riverman]

I believe OKC has 20 mil in cap room which is the most cap space in the league

 

[KSF-ERIC]

I wouldn’t give up money if I was Love. Would any of you? He already has a ring. What’s the motivation?

 

[blazerkor]

I wouldn’t give up money if I was Love. Would any of you? He already has a ring. What’s the motivation?

I totally agree. At the very most they're offering the guy 50M of the 60M they owe him. That would be leaving 10M on the table for no good reason. Love won't make 10M more on min contracts for the rest of his career, dude is washed at 32 he's not playing at 37. Some of these buyouts where players leave millions of dollars on the table that they'll never get back make absolutely no sense.

 

[Natebishop3]

I totally agree. At the very most they're offering the guy 50M of the 60M they owe him. That would be leaving 10M on the table for no good reason. Love won't make 10M more on min contracts for the rest of his career, dude is washed at 32 he's not playing at 37. Some of these buyouts where players leave millions of dollars on the table that they'll never get back make absolutely no sense.

Well, to add to this, he has a ring. Blake Griffin didn't have a ring. That was the primary difference between those two guys. Same with LMA.

 

[Scalma]

 

[handiman]

No one outside the Cavs front office thought that was a good contract when they inked it, so I doubt anyone is feeling sorry for them (or Love).

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Well, to add to this, he has a ring. Blake Griffin didn't have a ring. That was the primary difference between those two guys. Same with LMA.

I don’t get why Griffin did it either. To win a single playoff series? I would personally never give up tens of millions of dollars for a mere “chance” to win a title. Darko and Adam Morrison have rings. Your playing career is relatively short. I’d want to make as much money as possible before retiring. If I can help the team I’m on win, great. If not, I did my best and fulfilled my contract. This is life!

 

[blazerkor]

I don’t get why Griffin did it either. To win a single playoff series? I would personally never give up tens of millions of dollars for a mere “chance” to win a title. Darko and Adam Morrison have rings. Your playing career is relatively short. I’d want to make as much money as possible before retiring. If I can help the team I’m on win, great. If not, I did my best and fulfilled my contract. This is life!

Yeah, Blake's reported net worth is 110M and he reportedly left over 13M on the table in Detriot. I know taxes play into it but that at least 5% of his personal net worth. It's just horrible horrible business. The only way these buyouts would ever make sense to me is if the remainder of the guaranteed money went to a charity of the player's choosing. The team gets a tax break, both get good PR and the player gets to move on without just giving money back to billion dollar organizations senselessly.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Here is one thing that seems weird to me? Kevin love has made over 200 million but his net worth is only about 50 million.
How do you spend that much money and not have any value back? If you are buying houses you make money? If you are buying businesses? you make money (Hopefully).
What is he spending on?

 

[boredinsalem]

Here is one thing that seems weird to me? Kevin love has made over 200 million but his net worth is only about 50 million.
How do you spend that much money and not have any value back? If you are buying houses you make money? If you are buying businesses? you make money (Hopefully).
What is he spending on?

Kevin grew up in Lake O, his dad played in the NBA, and his uncle is a beach boy, so this probably doesn't apply to him. However, I'd imagine a lot of these guys are seen as piggy banks to help all their family and friends.

 

[julius]

Here is one thing that seems weird to me? Kevin love has made over 200 million but his net worth is only about 50 million.
How do you spend that much money and not have any value back? If you are buying houses you make money? If you are buying businesses? you make money (Hopefully).
What is he spending on?

I would guess that his total "net worth" is more than that, but also take into account a lot of the net worth athletes have is conjecture. But also, the "big names" have their hands in many cookie jars. Endorsements, businesses, etc. Not saying that explains why his # is so low, I suspect it's because that # is outdated/inaccurate.

Why do I say that # is probably oudated/inaccurate?

The same website implies Damians net worth is 70 million. Considering Nate Jones stated that Damian kept his entire stipend his first year or two and invoices every dollar coming in and out, I don't think it's that low.

 

[tykendo]

I would guess that his total "net worth" is more than that, but also take into account a lot of the net worth athletes have is conjecture. But also, the "big names" have their hands in many cookie jars. Endorsements, businesses, etc. Not saying that explains why his # is so low, I suspect it's because that # is outdated/inaccurate.

Why do I say that # is probably oudated/inaccurate?

The same website implies Damians net worth is 70 million. Considering Nate Jones stated that Damian kept his entire stipend his first year or two and invoices every dollar coming in and out, I don't think it's that low.

Though taxes take a huge chunk, and agents take their share, that seems way low. It's probably more in the 150 to 200 range. To date i saw where it was close to 300 gross with all the indorsements.

 

[riverman]

Here is one thing that seems weird to me? Kevin love has made over 200 million but his net worth is only about 50 million.
How do you spend that much money and not have any value back? If you are buying houses you make money? If you are buying businesses? you make money (Hopefully).
What is he spending on?

Offshore tax shelter accounts? Bank of Cypress...Caymans...shell companies that are a post office box in Maine? His dad probably took a lot of it...I read Mike Love's auto biography and sounds like Stan had a dark side

 

[Duckhook]

Can Love’s deal be restructured and take the buyout for $10mil over 6 years guaranteed from Cleveland and then sign a vet min with another team? Sorry I’m not a CBA guru.

 

[blazerkor]

Can Love’s deal be restructured and take the buyout for $10mil over 6 years guaranteed from Cleveland and then sign a vet min with another team? Sorry I’m not a CBA guru.

They could buy him out for the full 60M and stretch it over 5 seasons for cap purposes but that's not really what's being discussed. They are on the hook in one way or another for all of that money on their cap... it comes down to how much of that money they actually pay Love and I don't think they're trying to pay him anything close to 60M, now or over the next several years.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Here is one thing that seems weird to me? Kevin love has made over 200 million but his net worth is only about 50 million.
How do you spend that much money and not have any value back? If you are buying houses you make money? If you are buying businesses? you make money (Hopefully).
What is he spending on?

Taxes

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Also- those net worth websites can be way off. According to the Internet, I’m worth $750k. I wish.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Also- those net worth websites can be way off. According to the Internet, I’m worth $750k. I wish.

According to the Internet I'm not even here i guess? They might be a bit off on me as well.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[julius]

shit she must be tall....

 

[SharpesTriumph]

If the Blazers can add Love for min., he would be a valuable asset. He still can shoot, & rebound. Those bench role saavy vets always seem to come through in the wildest situations. Rather have Kevin, that some raw, clueless, youngster who's wet behind the ears.

I agree if Love is willing to accept low minutes or DNP. I suspect he's not.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

According to what I can see, just OKC is sitting with cap space right now at 20M. Everyone else looks like they're either over the cap or in the case of the Spurs only a couple 100k under.

I believe OKC stayed over the cap and has trade exceptions.

 

[riverman]

It's nice that he bought them both matching teeth

 

[Further]

I’ve had a couple times in my life including very recently I opted for a lower paying job because it offered a better quality of life. If I had tens of millions it would make that decision even easier. We only have so many years in this life, that’s worth something to me. I am thrilled with my choice. I know plenty of pathetic, unhappy greedy people. It doesn’t mean be a fool, but live a good life first.

 

[riverman]

I’ve had a couple times in my life including very recently I opted for a lower paying job because it offered a better quality of life. If I had tens of millions it would make that decision even easier. We only have so many years in this life, that’s worth something to me. I am thrilled with my choice. I know plenty of pathetic, unhappy greedy people. It doesn’t mean be a fool, but live a good life first.

You sure couldn't pay me enough to live in Cleveland.