Kristaps Porzingis

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I really could see us interested in Porzingis if it was for Nurk, Nas, Knox and Keon plus pick 23. I could then see us sending Ant to Orlando for Gary Harris and pick 6 or 11. This would allow Cronin to continue to build for the future while trying to get on Dame's good side by saying that we added an all star in KP.

I think Dame could deal with a rotation of Him, Shae, Miller (pick 3), Jeremi, KP, Lively (pick 11), Matisse and Jevon Carter (TPMLE) and Gary Harris as our rotation. Don't blame me for trying to make sense of the bullshit reported earlier today.

I actually think that could be a plan B if Charlotte takes Scoot. I think plan A regardless of rumors that NOLA wants Scoot for picks is... Scoot (pick 3) Nurk and Gary Harris to NOLA, Ant and 23 to Orlando and we get Zion, WCJ and 11.

That could be a rotation of Dame, Shae, Jeremi, Zion, WCJ, Lively (pick 11), Matisse, Javon Carter and Nas.
 
If Scoot is there when we are on the clock and even if it's Miller there will be a host of GMs lighting up our front office's phone lines trying to get those guys and the offers that Joe fields will make Kristaps Porzingis feel as ridiculous as that name made most of us feel enraged today.
 
Someone floating this to get Porzingis to opt out?
Sounds about right to me. You got a guy that you hope doesn't pick up their option? Spread a rumor he's getting traded to Portland. That should solve the problem.
 
Has anyone been in war room on draft day? I wanna know what happens during the five minute countdown before a pick. How many telephone lines are there? 5 minutes seem not enough to decide the future on a franchise.
 
Sounds about right to me. You got a guy that you hope doesn't pick up their option? Spread a rumor he's getting traded to Portland. That should solve the problem.
Nothing is getting that dude to give up 36M next season... nothing!
 
Hadn't considered 3 Ant for 8 KP before. Not a good pick in a 7 person draft though.

Dame
Sharpe
Grant
KP
Nurk

Hmm I don't think Grant KP can slide down a forward spot but it would probably work against big opponents like Denver.

I'd rather trade Nurk parts and 23 for KP, his value shouldn't be worth Ant or 3 let alone both. If we could do that along with a Bridges or Brown trade it makes much more sense.

Dame
Sharpe
Brown (or Bridges)
Grant
KP
 
If for some reason Porzingis opts in, which I find hard to believe.......It comes down to 3 things in my mind:

Do we like someone at 8 the same as #3? (Some fans seem to )
Are we better off with a 7'3" PF or with a good backup combo guard?
Can Porzingis stay healthy? (This one concerns me most)
Maybe we swing 8 to GS for Kuminga? Isn’t there talk of them trying to move up and offering him?
 
Has anyone been in war room on draft day? I wanna know what happens during the five minute countdown before a pick. How many telephone lines are there? 5 minutes seem not enough to decide the future on a franchise.

Endless phone lines. They have multiple direct lines and everyone has seemingly multiple cell phones.

The last 5 minutes can be pretty hectic, or quite calm depending on what you may have lined up. The framework for most of the trades has already been done. They have covered scenarios for if it is Miller or if it is Scoot in terms of teams that have reached out for trade interest and those packages are set up for the most part. Then it is a final decision on what they are going to do.

In some cases, the trade can't be finalized until some time after the Draft, so the principal deal is agreed to and you don't back out of those....would set a terrible precedent and no one would do business with you again. Sometimes plans can change last minute if a player falls that you weren't expecting and another team wants said player. Those have to be ironed out damn quickly, but as the player falls, someone is already putting together a potential package so it is ready to go.

I've never been in the war room, but had a couple of former GM's walk me through what it is like. They are exhausted because they haven't slept much in the days leading up to the Draft, and yet there is a big time high getting them through the whole thing. Exhilarating experience from what they have said.

But by the time they get to the press conference, that high is subsiding, and they often don't have much energy left. They can often seem quite drained.
 
Porzingis to Portland might be true, as a one year trial, but not for #3 pick.

Here's from an article I saw:

Washington Wizards Receive:
C Jusuf Nurkic,
F Nassir Little,
G/F Keon Johnson,
2025 First-Round Pick (Swap – POR)

Portland Trail Blazers Receive:
F/C Kristaps Porzingis

KP contract situation:
Player Option for 23-24
(deadline 6/21/23)
36M$

UFA next summer
 
Porzingis to Portland might be true, as a one year trial, but not for #3 pick.

Here's from an article I saw:

Washington Wizards Receive:
C Jusuf Nurkic,
F Nassir Little,
G/F Keon Johnson,
2025 First-Round Pick (Swap – POR)

Portland Trail Blazers Receive:
F/C Kristaps Porzingis

KP contract situation:
Player Option for 23-24
(deadline 6/21/23)
36M$

UFA next summer

Much better. Do you happen to remember where that article was or have a link?
 
Porzingis to Portland might be true, as a one year trial, but not for #3 pick.

Here's from an article I saw:

Washington Wizards Receive:
C Jusuf Nurkic,
F Nassir Little,
G/F Keon Johnson,
2025 First-Round Pick (Swap – POR)

Portland Trail Blazers Receive:
F/C Kristaps Porzingis

KP contract situation:
Player Option for 23-24
(deadline 6/21/23)
36M$

UFA next summer

that doesn't come close to working 'this' season, not nearly enough salary outgoing for Portland

next season?

Jusuf Nurkić $16,875,000
Nassir Little $6,250,000
Kevin Knox $3,000,000
Keon Johnson $2,808,720

28.934M...that would mean the trade credit factor is a simple +7.5M. and that gets outgoing salary + credit past KP's salary

honestly, if that's all that's going out it's an acceptable trade, IMO. But it's also not a trade you quickly agree to because KP has a similar injury history as Nurkic. But to even grant the Wizard swap rights it would cost Portland that 23rd pick in order for the Blazers to clear their Chicago encumbrance

I could be wrong but I think this rumor is about 95% bullshit


Jusuf Nurkić $16,875,000
Nassir Little $6,250,000
Kevin Knox $3,000,000
Keon Johnson $2,808,720
 
that doesn't come close to working 'this' season, not nearly enough salary outgoing for Portland

next season?

Jusuf Nurkić $16,875,000
Nassir Little $6,250,000
Kevin Knox $3,000,000
Keon Johnson $2,808,720

28.934M...that would mean the trade credit factor is a simple +7.5M. and that gets outgoing salary + credit past KP's salary

honestly, if that's all that's going out it's an acceptable trade, IMO. But it's also not a trade you quickly agree to because KP has a similar injury history as Nurkic. But to even grant the Wizard swap rights it would cost Portland that 23rd pick in order for the Blazers to clear their Chicago encumbrance

I could be wrong but I think this rumor is about 95% bullshit


Jusuf Nurkić $16,875,000
Nassir Little $6,250,000
Kevin Knox $3,000,000
Keon Johnson $2,808,720

The details are not so important as no one really should know anything specific. The main point is, any KP to PDX convo should not be for our #3
 
ME! I do, I say no!


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that doesn't come close to working 'this' season, not nearly enough salary outgoing for Portland

next season?

Jusuf Nurkić $16,875,000
Nassir Little $6,250,000
Kevin Knox $3,000,000
Keon Johnson $2,808,720

28.934M...that would mean the trade credit factor is a simple +7.5M. and that gets outgoing salary + credit past KP's salary

honestly, if that's all that's going out it's an acceptable trade, IMO. But it's also not a trade you quickly agree to because KP has a similar injury history as Nurkic. But to even grant the Wizard swap rights it would cost Portland that 23rd pick in order for the Blazers to clear their Chicago encumbrance

I could be wrong but I think this rumor is about 95% bullshit


Jusuf Nurkić $16,875,000
Nassir Little $6,250,000
Kevin Knox $3,000,000
Keon Johnson $2,808,720
nbaanalysis.net doesn't report rumors they just make up trades that make sense to them loosely tied to rumors they've seen reported. I've seen a ton of their "articles" and it's basically a trade idea post with a few paragraphs of explanation why it would work for both teams. A lot of times the sight will make up multiple trade scenarios for one player rumored to be on the move but they are always made up and never sourced, that I've seen.
 
nbaanalysis.net doesn't report rumors they just make up trades that make sense to them loosely tied to rumors they've seen reported. I've seen a ton of their "articles" and it's basically a trade idea post with a few paragraphs of explanation why it would work for both teams. A lot of times the sight will make up multiple trade scenarios for one player rumored to be on the move but they are always made up and never sourced, that I've seen.

so, they are just like RealGM or S2. A bunch of honyocks chucking outfantasy trades without considering if the trade is legal, or if it actually makes sense for BOTH teams
 
so, they are just like RealGM or S2. A bunch of honyocks chucking outfantasy trades without considering if the trade is legal, or if it actually makes sense for BOTH teams
I haven't seen many trades from them that don't work from a salary matching standpoint or if they do put some names out there that don't quite match they'll mention players that could be thrown in to make it match. Also like I said they write entire pages for why the trade would make sense for both teams. All of that being said it is an article format of what people with trade ideas post in forums... nothing more.
 
I’m not worried about this rumor. Too much is already out there and it’s probably already dead.
 
I suppose if you combined rumors you could get to something like this:

* Portland trades: Simons to Orlando; Nurkic to Washington; #3 to Washington
* Portland receives: Porzingis, Delon Wright (TPE), Bol Bol + #6 + #11 (from Orlando) + 2027 first (top-10 protected from Washington) + 2028 1st (top-10 protected from Miami) + 2029 first (lottery protected from Washington)

* Orlando trades: Gary Harris to Wash.; Bol Bol to Portland; #6 to Portland; #11 to Portland
* Orlando receives: Simons from Portland; #8 from Washington + #18 from Miami

* Miami trades: Robinson + Lowry to Washington; #18 to Orlando; 2028 first to Portland
* Miami receives: Beal from Washington

* Washington trades Porzingis + Delon Wright to Portland; Beal to Miami; #8 to Orlando +2027 & 2029 first's to Portland
* Washington receives: Nurkic + Harris + Robinson + Lowry + #3 from Portland

essentially the Blazers trade #3 + Simons + Nurkic and receive Porzingis + Delon Wright + Bol Bol + #6 + #11 + 2027, 2028, 2029 first's. Sure, it's probably to Blazer homerific, but they do give up the 3rd pick and it's about time they are the screwer in a fantasy trade instead of the screweee
 
I suppose if you combined rumors you could get to something like this:

* Portland trades: Simons to Orlando; Nurkic to Washington; #3 to Washington
* Portland receives: Porzingis, Delon Wright (TPE), Bol Bol + #6 + #11 (from Orlando) + 2027 first (top-10 protected from Washington) + 2028 1st (top-10 protected from Miami) + 2029 first (lottery protected from Washington)

* Orlando trades: Gary Harris to Wash.; Bol Bol to Portland; #6 to Portland; #11 to Portland
* Orlando receives: Simons from Portland; #8 from Washington + #18 from Miami

* Miami trades: Robinson + Lowry to Washington; #18 to Orlando; 2028 first to Portland
* Miami receives: Beal from Washington

* Washington trades Porzingis + Delon Wright to Portland; Beal to Miami; #8 to Orlando +2027 & 2029 first's to Portland
* Washington receives: Nurkic + Harris + Robinson + Lowry + #3 from Portland

essentially the Blazers trade #3 + Simons + Nurkic and receive Porzingis + Delon Wright + Bol Bol + #6 + #11 + 2027, 2028, 2029 first's. Sure, it's probably to Blazer homerific, but they do give up the 3rd pick and it's about time they are the screwer in a fantasy trade instead of the screweee

Decent haul, though I'm not sure it makes the team significantly better. I do like having 6 and 11, could maybe still get Amen.

I like the lopsided deal where Portland gets Bridges and Claxton.
 
I suppose if you combined rumors you could get to something like this:

* Portland trades: Simons to Orlando; Nurkic to Washington; #3 to Washington
* Portland receives: Porzingis, Delon Wright (TPE), Bol Bol + #6 + #11 (from Orlando) + 2027 first (top-10 protected from Washington) + 2028 1st (top-10 protected from Miami) + 2029 first (lottery protected from Washington)

* Orlando trades: Gary Harris to Wash.; Bol Bol to Portland; #6 to Portland; #11 to Portland
* Orlando receives: Simons from Portland; #8 from Washington + #18 from Miami

* Miami trades: Robinson + Lowry to Washington; #18 to Orlando; 2028 first to Portland
* Miami receives: Beal from Washington

* Washington trades Porzingis + Delon Wright to Portland; Beal to Miami; #8 to Orlando +2027 & 2029 first's to Portland
* Washington receives: Nurkic + Harris + Robinson + Lowry + #3 from Portland

essentially the Blazers trade #3 + Simons + Nurkic and receive Porzingis + Delon Wright + Bol Bol + #6 + #11 + 2027, 2028, 2029 first's. Sure, it's probably to Blazer homerific, but they do give up the 3rd pick and it's about time they are the screwer in a fantasy trade instead of the screweee

Seems like we'd be trading Dame at that point, which makes going after Porzingis odd.
 

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