Kyrie on his way out? End of the Nets "superteam"

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Cugel said:
The Blazers are beneath KD. It would never cross his mind to join Dame. 0.0% chance.
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I don't think anywhere he thinks he has a chance to get a ring is beneath Durant. The question is more can the Blazers get him and then put players around Him and Dame to make a legitimate run?
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
Quoting myself to be clear …

1. The 7th pick conveyed would be with the idea that BRK wants that player … that player can be shipped after the draft.
2. When free agency begins, Simons agrees to the speculated $20 million per to run a younger Brooklyn team with Simmons. With a S&T of a rookie contract along with EBEC and Hart, Portland needs to send out more to get KD.
3. The Nets get the full value of Simons’ incoming contract and the others and MAY need to send out enough to make the dollars work; since that may need to be the case, those $$$ would be absorbed separately within the TPE by Portland.

This is called “How to get KD.” If anything in the revised version above is CBA non-compliant, I invite anyone to re-work it and get KD on the Blazers. Yes, I know everything can’t be done during the draft … and TPE dollars are separate … and colluding is bad … wink, wink … no one does that in the NBA … those that do so stupidly (e.g., with Bogdanovic’s agent) deserve punishment … and … yes, I know.
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Might not be able to have Simons go to Brooklyn in a sign and trade. Two problems, first it hard caps them. Second is BYC.

Possibly harder than that is Brooklyn not having their own picks from acquiring Harden. I don't think they do a trade Durant rebuild if they don't get their picks.

3rd issue is Blazers being able to give Brooklyn necessary picks. Maybe Blazers can get Chicago to unprotect the 2023 pick.

Salaries are hard to matchup but less of a hinderance than above issues. Someone else posted how, could probably be done with Hart EB someone else, maybe third team.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
Quoting myself to be clear …

1. The 7th pick conveyed would be with the idea that BRK wants that player … that player can be shipped after the draft.
2. When free agency begins, Simons agrees to the speculated $20 million per to run a younger Brooklyn team with Simmons. With a S&T of a rookie contract along with EBEC and Hart, Portland needs to send out more to get KD.
3. The Nets get the full value of Simons’ incoming contract and the others and MAY need to send out enough to make the dollars work; since that may need to be the case, those $$$ would be absorbed separately within the TPE by Portland.

This is called “How to get KD.” If anything in the revised version above is CBA non-compliant, I invite anyone to re-work it and get KD on the Blazers. Yes, I know everything can’t be done during the draft … and TPE dollars are separate … and colluding is bad … wink, wink … no one does that in the NBA … those that do so stupidly (e.g., with Bogdanovic’s agent) deserve punishment … and … yes, I know.
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Simons is a free agent; so he can't be traded away at the draft.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Is it really a disappointment if this was an outcome that many people could see coming? They went out and got some of the biggest headcases in basketball.
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I'm not sure the Nets went out and intentionally got Kyrie. They wanted Durant and rightly so. Seems both Kyrie and Durant believed Kyrie is a legit star. Durant and Kyrie also considered DeAndre Jordan to be a good starter and told the Nets he was happy to sign for 40million.

If Durant just told Sean Marks I'll come there and then you can go add the best talent for us to win the Nets might have made some very different moves.

Similar to LeBron, when these stars throw their weight around the franchises decision making and push for GM moves, it never seems to helps. Which makes sense and is predictable.

Does anyone think Sean Marks would be able to go in and do Durant job well? Technically he is his supervisor (or supervisors supervisor), but obviously Durant has the skills, preparation, and focus to excel at basketball where Sean would fail. Sean similarly spent decades gaining the skills, and performing the preparation to succeed as a GM. Without any front office experience, why do these players think they can do a better job than one of only 30 people on the planet to hold this position?
 
A call, then the draft then free agency … I’m just running the pipe dream up the the flag pole … KD goes where KD wants to go. If it’s staying in Brooklyn with or without Irving, that’s for KD to decide. Dame is reportedly saying who he’d like to play with … a phone call to hear yes or no. Just saying.

Thursday will be interesting no matter what.
 
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...between-kyrie-irving-and-brooklyn?share=other

There is a path for Irving to decline his option and sign with New York as an unrestricted free agent. Part of the rumblings about Irving and the Knicks' mutual interest is that head coach Tom Thibodeau is a fan of Irving. But New York would have to shed significant salary, sacrifice valuable draft capital in the process and still likely need to stretch a contract or two to free up the space to meet Irving's near $40 million wages.

Sure, NY. I'll absorb the Burks and Noel contracts if you attach #11 to it. We can send back a second or maybe the MIL pick.

I hope we are exploring these kinda deals too to leverage our capspace for something. Obviously, the timing for have to include tampering-- but this isn't exactly a new concept in the league.
 
illmatic99 said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...between-kyrie-irving-and-brooklyn?share=other

There is a path for Irving to decline his option and sign with New York as an unrestricted free agent. Part of the rumblings about Irving and the Knicks' mutual interest is that head coach Tom Thibodeau is a fan of Irving. But New York would have to shed significant salary, sacrifice valuable draft capital in the process and still likely need to stretch a contract or two to free up the space to meet Irving's near $40 million wages.

Sure, NY. I'll absorb the Burks and Noel contracts if you attach #11 to it. We can send back a second or maybe the MIL pick.

I hope we are exploring these kinda deals too to leverage our capspace for something. Obviously, the timing for have to include tampering-- but this isn't exactly a new concept in the league.
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Kyrie Irving can't be traded at the draft, he can become a free agent.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Kyrie Irving can't be traded at the draft, he can become a free agent.
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This is only partially correct.

Irving is technically under contract for the '22-'23 season. He just has a player option to become a FA.
All Irving has to do is sign paperwork stating he's opting into his contract & he can be traded at the draft.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
This is only partially correct.

Irving is technically under contract for the '22-'23 season. He just has a player option to become a FA.
All Irving has to do is sign paperwork stating he's opting into his contract & he can be traded at the draft.
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You win sir!
 
If it blows up and the nets have to rebuild, a combo of sharpe, ant, and a pick could be pretty enticing to grab Durant.
 
How ironic would it be if he ended up in Portland :) not that we’ll get him but I do think by mid season he’ll be traded.
 
Durant is the one (potentially available) piece that could launch us into the contending status.
 
you give them anyone but dame.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
I don't think anywhere he thinks he has a chance to get a ring is beneath Durant. The question is more can the Blazers get him and then put players around Him and Dame to make a legitimate run?
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He's not interested in that. He wants ready made championships. All the other bullshit is beneath him.
 
Phatguysrule said:
He's not interested in that. He wants ready made championships. All the other bullshit is beneath him.
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Well maybe? I don’t know the guy? That seems a bit harsh for a competitor like KD. I always thought he always felt he was the best on the floor and he would beat you however he could? That kind of guy knows it’s work to win. He always seemed like he worked very hard to excel.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Well maybe? I don’t know the guy? That seems a bit harsh for a competitor like KD. I always thought he always felt he was the best on the floor and he would beat you however he could? That kind of guy knows it’s work to win. He always seemed like he worked very hard to excel.
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I have no doubt that he works hard to improve himelself.
 
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