Lance Stephenson available?

[chris_in_pdx]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12028590/charlotte-hornets-explore-lance-stephenson-trade

Could the Blazers use him?

 

[illmatic99]

No. Just. No.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

 

[e_blazer]

A guy shooting 17% from 3pt (.311 career) doesn't seem like a good fit for Stotts' system.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

A guy shooting 17% from 3pt (.311 career) doesn't seem like a good fit for Stotts' system.

Don't forget "a hero-baller who single-handedly makes his teammates worse".

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Anyone else get Ruben Patterson vibes from Lance?

 

[magnifier661]

Anyone else get Ruben Patterson vibes from Lance?

SO THIS!!!!!!

 

[blue32]

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

No way. Even with how down I am on batum right now I wouldn't trade him for lance.

 

[Wheels]

Anyone else get Ruben Patterson vibes from Lance?

we could use a Kobe Stopper!!!!

 

[magnifier661]

we could use a Kobe Stopper!!!!

Kobe is his own "Kobe Stopper!" Kobe is shooting a dismal FG% this season. He maybe a leader in points, but the dude needs like 300 shots to score 10!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Fuck that guy.

 

[blue9]

A guy shooting 17% from 3pt (.311 career) doesn't seem like a good fit for Stotts' system.

I think it's awfully short-sighted to hold "Stotts' System" above everything else. Stotts may only be around for another year or two. And a system that's built around long jump shots is not a great system for building a championship team.

 

[Nikolokolus]

A guy shooting 17% from 3pt (.311 career) doesn't seem like a good fit for Stotts' system.

Averages aside, the guy is a net minus; a true team killer.

 

[Wheels]

Kobe is his own "Kobe Stopper!" Kobe is shooting a dismal FG% this season. He maybe a leader in points, but the dude needs like 300 shots to score 10!

but he'd be like negative 6 points a game with Patterson on him! Make the trade Neil!!!!

 

[magnifier661]

I think it's awfully short-sighted to hold "Stotts' System" above everything else. Stotts may only be around for another year or two. And a system that's built around long jump shots is not a great system for building a championship team.

Wait, so you are wanting to grab Lance Stevenson?

 

[e_blazer]

I think it's awfully short-sighted to hold "Stotts' System" above everything else. Stotts may only be around for another year or two. And a system that's built around long jump shots is not a great system for building a championship team.

I don't see any indication that the Blazers are planning on dumping Stotts anytime soon. If Olshey makes a move like this, I guess the handwriting would be on the wall. Until, then you give the coach what he needs to be successful within his system. lance is not that guy.

 

[magnifier661]

I don't see any indication that the Blazers are planning on dumping Stotts anytime soon. If Olshey makes a move like this, I guess the handwriting would be on the wall. Until, then you give the coach what he needs to be successful within his system. lance is not that guy.

Well that and it seems Stotts is trying to implement more points in the paint this season.

 

[blue9]

Wait, so you are wanting to grab Lance Stevenson?

Not necessarily. Just saying that we shouldn't only look for "shooters" to fit Stotts' system. We're too overly reliant on shooters, and we could use some diversification.
I haven't paid attention to Stephenson this season - sounds like he's doing horribly. However, perhaps we'd be better with him coming off the bench instead of CJ? I think Blake/Stephenson/Kaman off the bench makes us a much stronger team.

 

[magnifier661]

Not necessarily. Just saying that we shouldn't only look for "shooters" to fit Stotts' system. We're too overly reliant on shooters, and we could use some diversification.
I haven't paid attention to Stephenson this season - sounds like he's doing horribly. However, perhaps we'd be better with him coming off the bench instead of CJ? I think Blake/Stephenson/Kaman off the bench makes us a much stronger team.

I think our GM can do much better than Lance Stevenson to solve the problem of diversification. Lance isn't that good. In fact, he's actually horrid on the offensive end.

 

[blue9]

I think our GM can do much better than Lance Stevenson to solve the problem of diversification. Lance isn't that good. In fact, he's actually horrid on the offensive end.

Maybe that's true - like I said, I haven't paid attention to him. However, his last two seasons with IND he sported a better FG% than LMA, so he can't be that bad offensively.

 

[magnifier661]

Maybe that's true - like I said, I haven't paid attention to him. However, his last two seasons with IND he sported a better FG% than LMA, so he can't be that bad offensively.

And a much much better FG% than Batum! Since you are full Batum homer, I can see why you want to take a chance with Lance, who is shooting a dismal 38% from the field

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Maybe that's true - like I said, I haven't paid attention to him. However, his last two seasons with IND he sported a better FG% than LMA, so he can't be that bad offensively.

And JJ Hickson got gaudy rebounding numbers... It's how you amass the stats. lance plays hero ball A LOT.

 

[KingSpeed]

Kobe is his own "Kobe Stopper!" Kobe is shooting a dismal FG% this season. He maybe a leader in points, but the dude needs like 300 shots to score 10!

Yep. Kobe is awful. 38% from field. 27% from 3. Most people would get benched for shooting that badly.

 

[e_blazer]

Not necessarily. Just saying that we shouldn't only look for "shooters" to fit Stotts' system. We're too overly reliant on shooters, and we could use some diversification.
I haven't paid attention to Stephenson this season - sounds like he's doing horribly. However, perhaps we'd be better with him coming off the bench instead of CJ? I think Blake/Stephenson/Kaman off the bench makes us a much stronger team.

I'm not saying that the guy that we trade for has to be a 3 pt specialist. I think we need a slasher who can create his own shot. But, if we're looking for an upgrade over what we have, he should be able to shoot from the perimeter as well. After all, Will is the very definition of a guy who can slash and create his own shot. It's his lack of a perimeter game (and his porous defense) that keeps him on the bench.

 

[blue9]

And a much much better FG% than Batum! Since you are full Batum homer, I can see why you want to take a chance with Lance, who is shooting a dismal 38% from the field

Your posts are awful. I'm really doing my best not to put you on ignore. Please stay on topic and stop trying to skewer people for their opinions and thoughts - which you wholly misrepresent in your vain attempt at "gotcha" posting.

 

[magnifier661]

Your posts are awful. I'm really doing my best not to put you on ignore. Please stay on topic and stop trying to skewer people for their opinions and thoughts - which you wholly misrepresent in your vain attempt at "gotcha" posting.

pfft. you brought up Aldridge as some dig, I was just returning the favor.

 

[blue9]

I'm not saying that the guy that we trade for has to be a 3 pt specialist. I think we need a slasher who can create his own shot. But, if we're looking for an upgrade over what we have, he should be able to shoot from the perimeter as well. After all, Will is the very definition of a guy who can slash and create his own shot. It's his lack of a perimeter game (and his porous defense) that keeps him on the bench.

It would certainly be nice to have someone who can slash AND shoot, but we shouldn't turn away a good slasher just because they don't have a 3-point shot.
I get what you're saying about Barton, but I think there's a world of difference between Stephenson and Barton.
Again, I'm not trumpeting the idea of getting Stephenson, just speaking more broadly on the "Stotts' System" - there are so many posts about anybody we trade for needing to be a good jump shooter because of Stotts, and I think that's pure folly. If Stotts is a good coach he should be able to figure out how to use a slasher in his offense.

 

[blue9]

pfft. you brought up Aldridge as some dig, I was just returning the favor.

No, I brought up LMA to address your comment that Lance is offensively awful. It wasn't a "dig"; it was a comparison to show that - while, yes, Lance is currently awful - he is not nearly as bad as you proclaim him to be.

My comment must have struck a nerve if you felt you had to return "the favor". However, your "favor" inspires no emotion - negative or positive - in me as I am not a "full Batum homer" as you seem to think. I simply understand what Nic is and isn't, and am fine with what he does for the team. His shooting is awful this season, I have no problem admitting that (because it's a fact, not an opinion). Some people are unable to admit that facts are facts, and instead try to argue that red is blue, black is white, and up is down.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

No, I brought up LMA to address your comment that Lance is offensively awful. It wasn't a "dig"; it was a comparison to show that - while, yes, Lance is currently awful - he is not nearly as bad as you proclaim him to be.

Gotta say, it might be the first time anyone has compared a player offensively to LMA in an attempt to use LMA to bolster the player's case for not being horrible. It's not wrong per se, just the way this forum runs, I expected that to be a dig at LA.