Last domino: Layman

[B-Roy]

What does Jake get? QO?

 

[Sheldon Shape]

As much as I'd love to see what Little can do, I don't think Jake is done getting better. 3mil per season max. We should bring him back.

 

[CupWizier]

What does Jake get? QO?

Having his bird rights, there is no hurry as Olshey let's him go out and explore his value and then he can make an informed decision of whether to let him go or match the offer. Nice position to be in.

 

[Scalma]

What does Jake get? QO?

I’d let him go if he got anything more.

 

[hoopsjock]

What does Jake get? QO?

We still have 2 more roster spots or 3 if Layman leaves.

 

[Scalma]

I think we should rescind Layman and let him go tbh. I know they offered him the QO but that was before Hood committed and Hezonja signed. Now we’re absolutely loaded on the wing and I don’t see Layman as an option at the four. I’d much rather use his roster spot on another big, which would also allow us to leave the 15th spot open, possibly for a buyout guy later in the season.

 

[andalusian]

I think we should rescind Layman and let him go tbh. I know they offered him the QO but that was before Hood committed and Hezonja signed. Now we’re absolutely loaded on the wing and I don’t see Layman as an option at the four. I’d much rather use his roster spot on another big, which would also allow us to leave the 15th spot open, possibly for a buyout guy later in the season.

I can't imagine Jake will get a huge offer anywhere, and in that case - he is coming back. At worst, he is a trade asset - but we have seen in the past that with consistent playing time - he can produce - and this teams feels like it will run a bit more than last year's team - which fit his style.

 

[Hoopguru]

I can't imagine Jake will get a huge offer anywhere, and in that case - he is coming back. At worst, he is a trade asset - but we have seen in the past that with consistent playing time - he can produce - and this teams feels like it will run a bit more than last year's team - which fit his style.

I could see San Antonio signing him.

 

[Labinot41]

Layman can be a really good player and is enjoyable to watch, i like his offball game, allways moving and his shot looks so smoth, but for some reason his beautiful shot just doesnt go in often, even last Season he just shot 32% on 3s, if he didn't have that great month he would probably be around 25% or so. And another Problem is his Defense, in the short time he played in the Playoffs opponent team attacked him every time and he did not look good, he just isn't strong enough to defend at the highest stage, maybe a proven Vet could be more useful

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Layman can be a really good player and is enjoyable to watch, i like his offball game, allways moving and his shot looks so smoth, but for some reason his beautiful shot just doesnt go in often, even last Season he just shot 32% on 3s, if he didn't have that great month he would probably be around 25% or so. And another Problem is his Defense, in the short time he played in the Playoffs opponent team attacked him every time and he did not look good, he just isn't strong enough to defend at the highest stage, maybe a proven Vet could be more useful

Could be the after practice competitions he had with Aminu to see who could put the most arc on their 3 pointers....

 

[Hoopguru]

Could be the after practice competitions he had with Aminu to see who could put the most arc on their 3 pointers....

I brought this up early last season that he has way to much arch on the ball especially for his height. It does make it tougher to zero in, imo.

 

[andalusian]

I could see San Antonio signing him.

If they go banana signing him, sure - but San Antonio is usually pretty smart with how they spend money - which means he is likely coming back.

 

[Natebishop3]

I really don’t care about Jake. I’d rather see Nas get some minutes.

 

[Scalma]

Look at all the options at SF

1. Hood
2. Bazemore
3. Hezonja
4. Little
5. Trent
6. Hoard (2way)

Shit I bet Simons could get a look in certain three guard lineups.

Now look at the options at C while Nurk is out

1. Whiteside
2. Collins
3. Skal

Skal has no business playing center, he’s not a good rebounder and can’t handle size. His best fit is power forward. He’d only be a small ball option. Collins looks like he’ll be starting at power forward. So if Whiteside gets in foul trouble against a big guy like Jokic, what the fuck do we do? I’d rather just sign another center and let sunshine go, especially since we all know Terry doesn’t trust him.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I have been on the dump Jake bandwagon because I think there are min vets to be had
which will help us more. For example, I believe KOQ signed a min contract. I absolutely
would rather have KOQ.

Edit: also, positional reasons.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Skal has no business playing center, he’s not a good rebounder and can’t handle size.

Always sad when parents turn on their children...

 

[Scalma]

Always sad when parents turn on their children...

I keep it real with my child. Don’t try to be someone you’re not is what I like to tell him.

 

[wizenheimer]

if Portland has any inkling Layman is going to accept his QO, they should immediately offer a 1 year deal for 2-3M and if Layman hesitates or wavers, Portland should withdraw the QO

Layman on a 3m expiring contract with full-Bird rights is a trade asset, if only as filler. Layman on a QO is a poor trade asset by comparison

 

[Reep]

Skal has no business playing center, he’s not a good rebounder

Skal averaged 8.8 reb per 36 min, which is better than Collins. He isn’t Nurkic or Whiteside, but he isn’t terrible.

 

[Scalma]

Skal averaged 8.8 reb per 36 min, which is better than Collins. He isn’t Nurkic or Whiteside, but he isn’t terrible.

I like to look at contested rebound percentage when trying to judge a players rebounding ability, and Zach hovered around 50% this season while Skals career best is 42% and hovers around 38-40%.

 

[Samuel]

I think Olshey saw Layman as a backup in case Mario Hezonja didn't sign. Now that we have him, I'm not sure why we need two of them.

Very similar players, and Hezonja is better defensively.

Rescind Layman, grab a vet min PG either now or after training camp, and leave a roster spot open for a lopsided trade, emergency center or buyout candidate.

 

[PCmor7]

I think Olshey saw Layman as a backup in case Mario Hezonja didn't sign. Now that we have him, I'm not sure why we need two of them.

Very similar players, and Hezonja is better defensively.

Rescind Layman, grab a vet min PG either now or after training camp, and leave a roster spot open for a lopsided trade, emergency center or buyout candidate.

Very similar, but Herzonja is much more proven as a dribbler, passer and defender. Both are athletic and both are streaky shooters, but I give Jake a slight edge in his shooting right now. It's not a big difference, but I think there is a gap there.

 

[Scalma]

If the story Quick painted was true and Kanter was the teams priority, then they probably figured they would lose Hood, hence the QO for Layman. I think Hezonja was going to happen regardless. Now that Hood is back we’re set on the wing and could use that spot elsewhere.

 

[wizenheimer]

I like to look at contested rebound percentage when trying to judge a players rebounding ability, and Zach hovered around 50% this season while Skals career best is 42% and hovers around 38-40%.

where can you find those numbers?

thanks in advance!

 

[Scalma]

where can you find those numbers?

thanks in advance!

Go to any players page on nba.com~Advanced stats~Tracking~Rebounds dashboard.

 

[illmatic99]

If we can get him for the QO and/or Stotts actually trusts him, then fine. If not, let him go and get a PG

 

[Scalma]

If we can get him for the QO and/or Stotts actually trusts him, then fine. If not, let him go and get a PG

Why do you want a PG so bad? They wouldn’t even play. A center would, at least until Nurk returned.

 

[illmatic99]

Why do you want a PG so bad? They wouldn’t even play. A center would, at least until Nurk returned.

injury insurance. we are covered at every other position. If even one of Dame/CJ/Simons goes down, we are screwed.

 

[Scalma]

injury insurance. we are covered at every other position. If even one of Dame/CJ/Simons goes down, we are screwed.

So we’re not screwed if whiteside or Collins go down?

 

[illmatic99]

So we’re not screwed if whiteside goes down?

We have Zach. Nurk will be back by 2020, and even Tolliver can play stretch 5.