Lebron opted out to get rid of K-Love?

[Denny Crane]

it doesnt say anywhere that you can go over the cap to sign the "non-bird" player.

This exception allows a team to re-sign its own free agent to a salary starting at up to 120% of his salary in the previous season

"exception" means "go over the cap"

 

[Denny Crane]

This is CBA 101, guys

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...-option-cleveland-cavaliers-become-free-agent

While the team does not have salary-cap space or own James' Bird rights, it is able to offer him a contract up to the max of around $22 million per year under league rules.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

NON-BIRD EXCEPTION

They are veteran free agents who are neither Qualifying Veteran Free Agents nor Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agents, and include the following:

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  • Players who finished the season with a given team, who have played no more than one season without clearing waivers or changing teams as a free agent.

(That would be LeBron!)

This exception allows a team to re-sign its own free agent to a salary starting at up to 120% of his salary in the previous season2 (not over the maximum salary, of course)

(Exceptions let you go over the cap, just like Bird Exception does)

Do they have to have the cap space to this or can they be sitting at $1 in available space? If that is the case, there is really no difference between this and the Bird exception...

 

[Schilly]

Damn it I get it now.

 

[Denny Crane]

Do they have to have the cap space to this or can they be sitting at $1 in available space? If that is the case, there is really no difference between this and the Bird exception...

NON-BIRD EXCEPTION -- This is also a component of the Veteran Free Agent exception. Its name is somewhat of a misnomer, since Non-Bird really is a form of Bird rights.

They can be $1 or more over the cap and still sign LeBron to $22M contract.

The difference is 4 years for non-Bird vs. 5 for Bird Rights.

 

[magnifier661]

Do they have to have the cap space to this or can they be sitting at $1 in available space? If that is the case, there is really no difference between this and the Bird exception...

Yeah, this seems like a loophole for superstars to go wherever they please. I don't see how the nba was that stupid

 

[Schilly]

The difference is it keeps a team from signing a guy for 1 year on a minimum deal then maxing them out.

 

[Minstrel]

I'm relatively certain that Denny is right (for once!). If it didn't allow the team to go over the cap, it wouldn't be an exception. For example, the maximum salary isn't called an exception, so this is not simply a rule limiting raises. Exceptions indicate uses of money that aren't subject to the salary cap.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Yeah, this seems like a loophole for superstars to go wherever they please. I don't see how the nba was that stupid

That would be why no one else is discussing this other than S2

 

[Denny Crane]

Yeah, this seems like a loophole for superstars to go wherever they please. I don't see how the nba was that stupid

LeBron cannot sign with any team that is over the cap, except for MLE or other similar exception.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

LeBron cannot sign with any team that is over the cap, except for MLE or other similar exception.

Thanks for clarifying this. And it all makes sense now

 

[magnifier661]

lets sign LBJ for 1 year max!

 

[magnifier661]

LeBron cannot sign with any team that is over the cap, except for MLE or other similar exception.

Thanks for the lesson! I stand corrected

 

[Denny Crane]

lets sign LBJ for 1 year max!

If you have MAX cap space, you can.

The non-bird rule only applies to the Cavs. They can sign their own FAs up to 120% of previous contract even if they have no bird rights or cap space.

 

[BonesJones]

If this worked like how your saying, then last year the Blazers would've used the MLE on Kaman, used this weird exception on Mo Williams, and would've used the BAE on a wing instead of Blake

 

[magnifier661]

If you have MAX cap space, you can.

The non-bird rule only applies to the Cavs. They can sign their own FAs up to 120% of previous contract even if they have no bird rights or cap space.

We do! We can offer him $25 mil! Will that work?

 

[Denny Crane]

The Bulls did not have Marco Belinelli's bird rights, as they signed him to a 2 year FA contract. When his contract was up, they could only offer him 120% of his previous contract because they were over the cap and had no exception to use. The Spurs offered him over 120% of his previous deal and he was gone.

 

[Denny Crane]

If this worked like how your saying, then last year the Blazers would've used the MLE on Kaman, used this weird exception on Mo Williams, and would've used the BAE on a wing instead of Blake

They did use the MLE on Kaman.

Williams signed a $3.75M contract with the Hornets. That was 144% of his previous contract. The Blazers could not match it.

EDIT: he signed 144% contract with Minny who traded him to the Hornets.

 

[magnifier661]

They did use the MLE on Kaman.

Williams signed a $3.75M contract with the Hornets. That was 144% of his previous contract. The Blazers could not match it.

U are such a nerd!

 

[BonesJones]

They did use the MLE on Kaman.

Williams signed a $3.75M contract with the Hornets. That was 144% of his previous contract. The Blazers could not match it.

ok it makes sense. I never heard of that exception before.

 

[Denny Crane]

@BrianFromWA and a few others who post here know this stuff way better than I do.

 

[BBert]

And.now he says he's taking a "wait and.see" approach to free agency. Nice Lebron way to toss your team under the bus!

Anyone who doesn't think Lebron is a douche...well...he's no Tim Duncan.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

If I was a Cavs fan, I would be pretty disappointed that we just lost the player we traded away Wiggins for.

If Love does leave, that could go down as one of the worst trades in NBA history. One year of Kevin Love (his worst season) for a player that I think is going to be a stud All Star!

 

[Denny Crane]

If Love does leave, that could go down as one of the worst trades in NBA history. One year of Kevin Love (his worst season) for a player that I think is going to be a stud All Star!

Lakers traded for DHoward who bolted.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Easy for me to say since it's not my money, but I dont understand why these star players who also make a ton of money via endorsements want max contracts. I'd rather take less money and be on the team of my choice and so my team could surround me with better players and win!

 

[Denny Crane]

Easy for me to say since it's not my money, but I dont understand why these star players who also make a ton of money via endorsements want max contracts. I'd rather take less money and be on the team of my choice and so my team could surround me with better players and win!

They're competitive. They want to win at everything, including the salary game.

 

[magnifier661]

Lakers traded for DHoward who bolted.

Which gave Memphis Marc Gasol. Could be at the same level of epic proportions!

EDIT: Scratch that... I think that trade was for Pau Gasol... My bad

 

[BrianFromWA]

Which gave Memphis Marc Gasol

That was Pau Gasol.

 

[riverman]

Which gave Memphis Marc Gasol. Could be at the same level of epic proportions!

EDIT: Scratch that... I think that trade was for Pau Gasol... My bad

Memphis got Marc Gasol for his brother long ago

 

[magnifier661]

That was Pau Gasol.

I know, I corrected myself on the edit. I left the original to expose my awesome idiocity