Lillard & Grant for Spurs’ 6 picks?

[Bingo Bango]

We’d have to take back other pieces, and possibly get other teams involved, but adding Lillard and Grant to Wemby would give the Spurs an “instant” rebuild, and possibly a championship in the first year. Jabbar won an NBA title in his second season, and Wemby is supposed to be at that level. The Spurs have six 1st round picks in the next two drafts, which would give the Blazers eight 1st round picks in the next two years—a tremendous haul. I don’t see how the Spurs could say no to this deal, and it would instantly give Portland an even brighter future.

 

[blazerkor]

We’d have to take back other pieces, and possibly get other teams involved, but adding Lillard and Grant to Wemby would give the Spurs an “instant” rebuild, and possibly a championship in the first year. Jabbar won an NBA title in his second season, and Wemby is supposed to be at that level. The Spurs have six picks in the next two drafts, which means the Blazers would reap a windfall in the draft, which is their best chance of building a championship team. I don’t see how the Spurs could say no to this deal, and it would instantly give Portland an even brighter future.

The team has already said that it's not going back on the deal they negotiated with Jerami and they would have to cut it down by a year in order for it to be eligible for a S&T. So it's either take the existing offer off the table or wait until January.

 

[ehizzy3]

We have to get Sochan back in a trade with the spurs

 

[Bingo Bango]

So it's either take the existing offer off the table or wait until January.

They should take it off the table. The Lillard trade request changes everything.

 

[blazerkor]

They should take it off the table. The Lillard trade request changes everything.

That is the team's prerogative. Many have said that would go over really poorly with players around the league but if we don't honor Dame's wishes it might come off just as poorly.

 

[Natebishop3]

Grant won’t be traded until the deadline. You guys need to stop including him in Dame deals.

 

[Bingo Bango]

Many have said that would go over really poorly with players around the league . . .

That’s the last thing I care about. Players around the league want nothing to do with Portland anyway.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Is there a way to do a deal with a handshake for second part to occur after January?

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

We’d have to take back other pieces, and possibly get other teams involved, but adding Lillard and Grant to Wemby would give the Spurs an “instant” rebuild, and possibly a championship in the first year. Jabbar won an NBA title in his second season, and Wemby is supposed to be at that level. The Spurs have six picks in the next two drafts, which would give the Blazers 8 picks in the next two years—a tremendous haul. I don’t see how the Spurs could say no to this deal, and it would instantly give Portland an even brighter future.

I heard the next two drafts are meh. So short of landing the first pick. I don't see the value. Do we think SA would be a lotto team?
These picks would suck.

And hard no to keeping Dame in the western conference

 

[blazerkor]

That’s the last thing I care about. Players around the league want nothing to do with Portland anyway.

Then if you were in charge you would trade Dame to whatever team would take him and give us the most (that might be hard because no one wants a disgruntled superstar who has a stellar reputation and outside of this fan base Dame still does). You would also take the contract offer off the table when it comes to Jerami. We would be the Chernobyl of the NBA and we might even have guys on their rookie contracts trying to find a way out of town but if that's the way you would want to run it more power to you.

 

[Bingo Bango]

Do we think SA would be a lotto team?
These picks would suck.

Really? In 2024 we’d get the first round picks of Charlotte and Toronto (plus the Spurs’ pick), and in 2025 we’d get the first round picks of Atlanta and Chicago (plus the Spurs’ pick). That’s about as good as it gets.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Then if you were in charge you would trade Dame to whatever team would take him and give us the most (that might be hard because no one wants a disgruntled superstar who has a stellar reputation and outside of this fan base Dame still does). You would also take the contract offer off the table when it comes to Jerami. We would be the Chernobyl of the NBA and we might even have guys on their rookie contracts trying to find a way out of town but if that's the way you would want to run it more power to you.

I've been getting the distinct impression for years (based on all the great FA's that have signed here) that we are already the Chernobyl of the NBA......so what's to lose?

 

[Bingo Bango]

We would be the Chernobyl of the NBA and we might even have guys on their rookie contracts trying to find a way out of town.

We ARE the Chernobyl of the NBA, haven’t you noticed? Dame couldn’t get a single all-star to come here in 10 years. No big-name free agents come here, either. Players don’t like the rain, or the small market, or the “whiteness” of the city. Portland is their idea of NBA purgatory, the last place they would want to play. The city is so deep in the wasteland of the NBA that the league has never held an All-Star game here.

 

[PDXFonz]

The team has already said that it's not going back on the deal they negotiated with Jerami and they would have to cut it down by a year in order for it to be eligible for a S&T. So it's either take the existing offer off the table or wait until January.

Why do you expect the FO to be of their word now? Straight up not delivering for years and all the sudden they are too true to their word to alter the Grant contract to fit our situation?

This is cause for the salty Sunday thread actually

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Really? In 2024 we’d get the first round picks of Charlotte and Toronto (plus the Spurs’ pick), and in 2025 we’d get the first round picks of Atlanta and Chicago (plus the Spurs’ pick). That’s about as good as it gets.

ahh sorry. Thought they were SA picks over years.

 

[Bingo Bango]

ahh sorry. Thought they were SA picks over years.

How would a team get six first round picks in two years without acquiring picks from other teams?

 

[glazeduck]

I heard the next two drafts are meh.

There's a whole bunch of reasons why you can't let this dictate your decision making...
1. I've seen many say that the drafts aren't great for star talent but are deep in terms of role players and solid talent. For better or worse, it appears we're moving forward with Shae and Scoot as our stars, so that may not be as big of a deal to us.
2. We're talking about kids who are still physically developing and/or growing into their bodies and figuring out how to succeed after that development. Every year there are kids that have big jumps in development to "come out of nowhere". It's a long way away to the next 2 drafts, the quality on the star end could easily improve.
3. By all accounts we have one of the best scouting depts. in the league, in Schmitz I trust.
4. Most importantly, you never know when other teams/stars will want a reset. Having an absolute treasure trove of picks in the near term (as opposed to 2030, like with Miami) can make things happen easier.

Obviously you'd hope there was 10 Lebrons in the drafts you're trading into, but just because there's no immediately obvious superstar doesn't mean those picks should be ignored.

And hard no to keeping Dame in the western conference

I don't get this logic. If we're trading Dame we're very clearly rebuilding. Who cares if he beats us 5 times or 3 for the next few years? I want the best haul possible. If Dame is happy with the outcome, regardless of landing spot, I guess that's a small bonus, but the bringback needs to be the absolute top priority.

 

[wizenheimer]

They should take it off the table. The Lillard trade request changes everything.

changes what? does it allow the Blazers to break agreements with a player and his agent. Yeah, that will sure pay dividends

I'm fairly well convinced this deal with Grant has been in place and agreed on for months. It was between Grant & Cronin and it was a deal giving Grant that 5th guaranteed season which he couldn't get till yesterday. It's likely why Grant was just fine sitting out so the Blazers could tank. This just looks like Portland keeping their word to Grant

 

[Bingo Bango]

Does it allow the Blazers to break agreements with a player and his agent. Yeah, that will sure pay dividends.

Portland has intentionally lost games for two years in a row. I don’t think we have a sterling record for integrity.

 

[Cugel]

I guess Dame is too old for them.

 

[robson]

Spurs are good as they are. They got Zach on C, Wembee on PF and Rodman as well. They are growing and I don't think they need drama. Dame would have to wait few years to compete and his situation would be way different than in Miami. It makes no sense for Dame and for Spurs.

But.. if that goes down, I want Sochan and Zach back. And picks.

 

[OneSport3]

Are grown adults in this thread really advocating for disregarding integrity? That’s just crazy. Unless they clearly stipulated during negotiations that the contract is only valid if Dame stays, then you have to honor the contract.

Not only would you be pissing off players, you would be pissing off all the agents in the league. Jerami is represented by Klutch Sports, arguably the most powerful agency in the league right now. Forget getting free agents, you wouldn’t be able to get any agent to deal with the Blazers FO and trade their client to Portland either.

“Portland is Chernobyl already, let’s just make it worse” is such a childish way of thinking.

 

[Cugel]

Just trade Grant at the deadline. Why? First let him know that is an option. Second , he will play his ass off to look good for the market. Third a contender wanting to make a run would definitely want him. Back to Denver?? BKN?? Not really Germaine just yet.

 

[wizenheimer]

I think trading Grant at the deadline will be difficult. 4 and a half years left on a 32M/year contract will be pretty unattractive.

 

[Bingo Bango]

Are grown adults in this thread really advocating for disregarding integrity? That’s just crazy.

You mean like intentionally losing games for two years in a row? Is that your definition of “integrity”?

 

[Bingo Bango]

Spurs are good as they are. They got Zach on C, Wembee on PF and Rodman as well. They are growing and I don't think they need drama.

Players like Lillard don’t come along every day. A guy who can score 71 points on any given night and hit a big shot when you need it is a rare commodity, and something the Spurs would love to put alongside Wemby. And of course a guy like Grant, who can give you 20 points a night at the forward position, would be an extra incentive.

 

[maxiep]

Then if you were in charge you would trade Dame to whatever team would take him and give us the most (that might be hard because no one wants a disgruntled superstar who has a stellar reputation and outside of this fan base Dame still does). You would also take the contract offer off the table when it comes to Jerami. We would be the Chernobyl of the NBA and we might even have guys on their rookie contracts trying to find a way out of town but if that's the way you would want to run it more power to you.

That's the silliest take I have yet seen in this thread. Congratulations!

 

[maxiep]

You mean like intentionally losing games for two years in a row? Is that your definition of “integrity”?

It's my definition of smart team building.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

How would a team get six first round picks in two years without acquiring picks from other teams?

Other than future picks, i wasnt thinking.

 

[Bingo Bango]

We have to get Sochan back in a trade with the spurs

I think that’s possible. The idea of an instant upgrade at three key positions this coming year might be too tempting for the Spurs to resist.