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I am the biggest CJ fan there is. I dont want to see either one of them to leave. I just get tired of people say CJ has to go to get a big name back. Why? CJ is the better player. Everyone has to get their .09 blinders off. But that being said i wish it was possible to keep both and get a ring. Its about rings.
 
I am the biggest CJ fan there is. I dont want to see either one of them to leave. I just get tired of people say CJ has to go to get a big name back. Why? CJ is the better player. Everyone has to get their .09 blinders off. But that being said i wish it was possible to keep both and get a ring. Its about rings.

It's hard to deny one of the top ten plays in NBA history. How do you give up on a guy who did that in your home floor?
 
I am the biggest CJ fan there is. I dont want to see either one of them to leave. I just get tired of people say CJ has to go to get a big name back. Why? CJ is the better player. Everyone has to get their .09 blinders off. But that being said i wish it was possible to keep both and get a ring. Its about rings.
You followed me here from RipCityMornings?! Oh man, now I have no sanctuary!

Just kidding, Steve. Welcome to the forum; nice to see you.
 
All good valid points.

Q. Given the age and timeline of the super teams that are the real contenders. And then include the timeline of the Blazers salaries and cap structure. When do you think during Dame’s reign the Blazers will be a TRUE CONTENDER?

When I look at the two timelines. I do not believe we will ever be a true contender during Dames reign, sad but true.

I don't disagree with you, but I don't think Olshey thinks that way. And, in reality, neither the Cavs nor the Warriors are invincible. If the Cavs swapped places in the West with the Warriors, I wouldn't consider them locks to reach the Finals and the Warriors are an injury or two from being mortal in a series. I'm not suggesting that you bank on injuries, but it's probably not a great idea to just give up on the next five years or so.

I think it would be a fascinating deal to trade Lillard for Simmons. I don't know if it would work, but it would certainly be bold. I'd rather target someone like Butler or Cousins, though, and continue building something in the present.
 
I don't disagree with you, but I don't think Olshey thinks that way. And, in reality, neither the Cavs nor the Warriors are invincible. If the Cavs swapped places in the West with the Warriors, I wouldn't consider them locks to reach the Finals and the Warriors are an injury or two from being mortal in a series. I'm not suggesting that you bank on injuries, but it's probably not a great idea to just give up on the next five years or so.

I think it would be a fascinating deal to trade Lillard for Simmons. I don't know if it would work, but it would certainly be bold. I'd rather target someone like Butler or Cousins, though, and continue building something in the present.

Good analogy.

Trading Dame for Simmons & Okafor, plus plugging the holes with this year’s draft picks would take time to recuperate. But I do not think it would take 5 seasons. I think that roster with CJ + role players would be scary good in 2-3 seasons. But they would still be young enough to keep improving. The 2020 or 2021 finals could be Blazers vs 76ers. Dame makes the finals game, just on a different team.
 
Quiz: Which is the best way to piss off Cippy?

1. Trade Lillard once.

2. Post a thousand times that we should trade Lillard.

I'll stick with #2.
Probably the 2nd one because I absolutely don't understand it but it doesn't really piss me off, it's more so annoying
 
Again, I want to stress that I have no idea how Olshey thinks. Not sure how anyone else can. Olshey is running a rudderless ship.

Reason: Olshey’s tactics have gone from being a low end bargain hunter to drowning mediocre bench players with piles of money.

Now that Olshey has painted himself into a corner with bad long term contracts, who knows what he might do next to save his job?
 
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NAh. you were freaking out. :0
It's okay though . You were damn near tossing personal insults out there its frustrating you so much. If you were chilled out you wouldnt have put such an effort into such a long post. :)
Its all good, but lets keep it real. :)
That's not freaking out, that was a detailed explanation as to not trading both. You just wanna act like you know the voice behind the words but you don't, you're just assuming but okay
 
Trade dame for Jeff withey. Please. Or Langston Galloway. These are the players we need and dame isn't good, he just sucks. Dame has obviously been the problem and I'm so glad the same person made a million trade dame threads because the word needs to be spread. #getourfranchisestaroutnow
 
@Orion Bailey ....I haven't looked at SoS of other teams. Most of today has been spent putting together a 401K plan so only so much time to go around. Portland has had a difficult schedule but as @Minstrel pointed out, they have lost games that they should be winning. Games like getting beat by Detroit at home and getting blown out by teams like Denver somewhat invalidate the SoS piece from Portland's end.

The Blazers' schedule should get a little easier and other teams may get more difficult. But no matter what other teams do, Portland is quite a ways behind teams that have played nearly .600 ball for the first half of the season. The Blazers would have to win EVERY game against the <.500 teams and a more than a few against the Playoff teams to even think about getting to the #7 seed.

I just don't see that happening even if other teams fall off.
I'm following more. And shame on you for devoting time to anything other than us!!!!

That's not freaking out, that was a detailed explanation as to not trading both. You just wanna act like you know the voice behind the words but you don't, you're just assuming but okay

When you try to mock the op with a sas and tone in text it is perceived as either you being very frustrated or very rude. Just sayin. Most of us have been there, no biggy but you went off on the op trying to mock when you say "gun to your head durrrrr"
Borderline saying the op is being idiotic.
 
I'm following more. And shame on you for devoting time to anything other than us!!!!



When you try to mock the op with a sas and tone in text it is perceived as either you being very frustrated or very rude. Just sayin. Most of us have been there, no biggy but you went off on the op trying to mock when you say "gun to your head durrrrr"
Borderline saying the op is being idiotic.
It was mostly a joke but there is also truth to it. I have seen this guy make a shit ton of pointless threads like this mostly relating to dame and cj. So yeah it gets annoying after the 5th thread in a month from the same dude. Doesn't ruin my day, it's just annoying. You can be annoyed without being angry you know. I just think people that wanna trade dame are as lost as the team. So instead I'm now going to say ridiculous shit on threads which propose trading the two, especially dame.
 
It was mostly a joke but there is also truth to it. I have seen this guy make a shit ton of pointless threads like this mostly relating to dame and cj. So yeah it gets annoying after the 5th thread in a month from the same dude. Doesn't ruin my day, it's just annoying. You can be annoyed without being angry you know. I just think people that wanna trade dame are as lost as the team. So instead I'm now going to say ridiculous shit on threads which propose trading the two, especially dame.
If people say things you don't like, you've decided that the best solution is to spout ridiculousness until they fall in line with your way of thinking?

How very "Trumpy" of you.
 
If people say things you don't like, you've decided that the best solution is to spout ridiculousness until they fall in line with your way of thinking?

How very "Trumpy" of you.
And what does somebody like trump have anything to do with this? I swear some people on here have lost their minds, you're tripping over something you didn't even hear me say so you don't know the tone in which it was said. You act like I said it in some serious angry manner. I don't really care, I just said I'm gonna troll threads like this now. Not a big deal. Also ironic you bring up trump though because in the OT section this guy has a history of making the same threads over and over again just with minor twists to them. But yeah I don't understand what politics have to do with a proposed lillard trade, good on you though
 
And what does somebody like trump have anything to do with this? I swear some people on here have lost their minds, you're tripping over something you didn't even hear me say so you don't know the tone in which it was said. You act like I said it in some serious angry manner. I don't really care, I just said I'm gonna troll threads like this now. Not a big deal. Also ironic you bring up trump though because in the OT section this guy has a history of making the same threads over and over again just with minor twists to them. But yeah I don't understand what politics have to do with a proposed lillard trade, good on you though
Stay on target, bud. Read what I actually wrote, and respond to the content. That's how conversations work.

The tactic you're championing--trolling threads with whose content you disagree--is similar to the style of a bombastic politician who simply shouts down detractors without legitimately addressing counterpoints. Neither method elevates the discussion. Both simply seek to stifle the exchange of ideas.

If you disagree with my statement, feel free to explain why.
 
Stay on target, bud. Read what I actually wrote, and respond to the content. That's how conversations work.

The tactic you're championing--trolling threads with whose content you disagree--is similar to the style of a bombastic politician who simply shouts down detractors without legitimately addressing counterpoints. Neither method elevates the discussion. Both simply seek to stifle the exchange of ideas.

If you disagree with my statement, feel free to explain why.
Seems to me like you're the one being confrontational. Starts by saying I was being trumpy and then a follow up calling me "bud" as if you have some personal issue with me. You think I'm trying to make people think the way I think? No not really at all. I expressed my own personal opinion on here just like everybody else on the first page. It's also a personal opinion that I think the trade dame narrative is insane. Oh well though. Doesn't matter because it's not gonna happen nor should it. Seems to me you're the one taking this too seriously after I said some things pretty loosely and explained I wasn't but being completely serious and that should be pretty obvious by my all caps "durrr". Trolling as in ridiculous proposals like dame for a shitty player not any trolling that does harm.

Congrats though in the end you kinda revealed your self by calling me trumpy and you are obviously still hurt by the tremendous loss Hillary took. That's a whole different conversation though
 
It was mostly a joke but there is also truth to it. I have seen this guy make a shit ton of pointless threads like this mostly relating to dame and cj. So yeah it gets annoying after the 5th thread in a month from the same dude. Doesn't ruin my day, it's just annoying. You can be annoyed without being angry you know. I just think people that wanna trade dame are as lost as the team. So instead I'm now going to say ridiculous shit on threads which propose trading the two, especially dame.

Several posters tried this mode of communication in the O-Live forum. It's now a complete joke. Just sayin'
 
Seems to me like you're the one being confrontational. Starts by saying I was being trumpy and then a follow up calling me "bud" as if you have some personal issue with me. You think I'm trying to make people think the way I think? No not really at all. I expressed my own personal opinion on here just like everybody else on the first page. It's also a personal opinion that I think the trade dame narrative is insane. Oh well though. Doesn't matter because it's not gonna happen nor should it. Seems to me you're the one taking this too seriously after I said some things pretty loosely and explained I wasn't but being completely serious and that should be pretty obvious by my all caps "durrr". Trolling as in ridiculous proposals like dame for a shitty player not any trolling that does harm.

Congrats though in the end you kinda revealed your self by calling me trumpy and you are obviously still hurt by the tremendous loss Hillary took. That's a whole different conversation though
It takes quite the chip on ones shoulder to interpret "bud" as confrontational. I'm impressed.

There's a big difference between trying to make people think the way you do (not what I claimed) and trying to inhibit conversation with which you disagree (which you said you were planning to do--"troll insane trade Dame narratives"). I still have yet to see where you actually dispute anything I've actually said.

Also, your inaccurate assumptions amuse me. I'm one of the more conservative people you'll ever meet; you couldn't get me to vote for Hilary with a gun to my head. Life is not binary. One can be not a fan of Trump's coarseness without also supporting Hilary's corruption. You would do well to learn to see gray areas.
 
It takes quite the chip on ones shoulder to interpret "bud" as confrontational. I'm impressed.

There's a big difference between trying to make people think the way you do (not what I claimed) and trying to inhibit conversation with which you disagree (which you said you were planning to do--"troll insane trade Dame narratives"). I still have yet to see where you actually dispute anything I've actually said.

Also, your inaccurate assumptions amuse me. I'm one of the more conservative people you'll ever meet; you couldn't get me to vote for Hilary with a gun to my head. Life is not binary. One can be not a fan of Trump's coarseness without also supporting Hilary's corruption. You would do well to learn to see gray areas.
I addressed everything you said but it's really fascinating to witness somebody try so hard to be an intellectual
 
I'm not afraid of Cippy's wrath, so I'll say it.

I'd like Olshey to trade Lillard for a big man league star. Then, tell Blazer coaches to not turn McCollum into another dumb-shot Lillard.
 
I'm not afraid of Cippy's wrath, so I'll say it.

I'd like Olshey to trade Lillard for a big man league star. Then, tell Blazer coaches to not turn McCollum into another dumb-shot Lillard.
I respect your opinion. Doesn't bother me. In other posts I have seen from you, you seem to know what you're talking about and just don't spout shit from anywhere. I'm just saying the dude that create some this thread says the same thing over and over again every week just with minor tweaks
 
Almost as fascinating watching someone apparently intentionally avoid being the same.
Bro you wanna meet up and squash this, make out with me or something. I will get you drinks, treat you right, everything will be okay babe
 
Seems to me like you're the one being confrontational. Starts by saying I was being trumpy and then a follow up calling me "bud" as if you have some personal issue with me. You think I'm trying to make people think the way I think? No not really at all. I expressed my own personal opinion on here just like everybody else on the first page. It's also a personal opinion that I think the trade dame narrative is insane. Oh well though. Doesn't matter because it's not gonna happen nor should it. Seems to me you're the one taking this too seriously after I said some things pretty loosely and explained I wasn't but being completely serious and that should be pretty obvious by my all caps "durrr". Trolling as in ridiculous proposals like dame for a shitty player not any trolling that does harm.

Congrats though in the end you kinda revealed your self by calling me trumpy and you are obviously still hurt by the tremendous loss Hillary took. That's a whole different conversation though

Dude... you are still not getting it. :)
I suggest you re-read your first post, and then read the one I just quoted....
No one is upset, just trying to point out that your stated method of communication is not going to provide the results you desire.
And for the record, there are a shit ton of seriously smart people on this board. ALOT more than I would have ever thought reasonable for an online forum. Before trying to call people out for acting one way or another, read up on some history.
Ive been schooled many a times by many a people on here, and I consider myself an above average intelligence with a fairly successful life.
Chill out and have fun here. :). The only thing you will be successful at if you start trolling threads is isolating yourself. You are a Blazer fan so I like you and I don't want to see that happen. :)

Almost as fascinating watching someone apparently intentionally avoid being the same.

Now that was hilarious!
 

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