Lilliard named co-MVP of Vegas summer league

[Mediocre Man]

You're right. Let's stay right where we've been.

Why change 35 years of tradition now?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Why change 35 years of tradition now?

Exactly.

I hope Lillard gets some scoring titles, but I prefer to stay in the lottery. I mean, being in the lottery sounds so cool. And hey, what if we win the lotto?? We're #1! We're #1!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Exactly.

I hope Lillard gets some scoring titles, but I prefer to stay in the lottery. I mean, being in the lottery sounds so cool. And hey, what if we win the lotto?? We're #1! We're #1!

Exactly. Look how much more fun summer league was for us than say the Lakers or Heat?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Exactly. Look how much more fun summer league was for us than say the Lakers or Heat?

Yeah. I mean, how good did NO feel winning the lotto? What could top winning the lotto?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yeah. I mean, how good did NO feel winning the lotto? What could top winning the lotto?

Winning a title, proving once again Reese Bobby is brilliant

 

[Mediocre Man]

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/07/23/...mer-Lea/landing_cavaliers.html?blockID=764941

Damian Lillard, PG, Trail Blazers. Played well at any speed, scored at will, proved to be a better-than-expected passer. High energy, athletic and plays with an edge. Left some scouts uttering the name of Isiah Thomas.


That is actually a great comparison

 

[Natebishop3]

Winning a title, proving once again Reese Bobby is brilliant

Ricky Bobby?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Ricky Bobby?

Reese Bobby

 

[PapaG]

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/07/23/...mer-Lea/landing_cavaliers.html?blockID=764941

Damian Lillard, PG, Trail Blazers. Played well at any speed, scored at will, proved to be a better-than-expected passer. High energy, athletic and plays with an edge. Left some scouts uttering the name of Isiah Thomas.


That is actually a great comparison

I can't believe none of us semi-old guys thought about that one. Zeke's game was a lot like what I've seen from Lillard, except that Zeke was a more accomplished playmaker at this stage. Then again, Thomas also played with real players at Indiana in college, instead of with a bunch of slow set-shooters at Weber State.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I can't believe none of us semi-old guys thought about that one. Zeke's game was a lot like what I've seen from Lillard, except that Zeke was a more accomplished playmaker at this stage. Then again, Thomas also played with real players at Indiana in college, instead of with a bunch of slow set-shooters at Weber State.

Yep. I am easily old enough to have thought of Thomas, and failed the forum

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I can't believe none of us semi-old guys thought about that one. Zeke's game was a lot like what I've seen from Lillard, except that Zeke was a more accomplished playmaker at this stage. Then again, Thomas also played with real players at Indiana in college, instead of with a bunch of slow set-shooters at Weber State.

I'd have to believe nobody pointed out Thomas because he's such a whack job that nobody wants to compare their player to him. But Thomas was a fun player to watch, and was often a gifted basketball player.

 

[PapaG]

Yep. I am easily old enough to have thought of Thomas, and failed the forum

Never have I felt so inept. It was right there, and none of us could get dibs on a rather obvious comparison.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Same article (sorry to disgress): Meyers Leonard, C, Trail Blazers. Worked well in pick-and-roll situations with Lillard, a good sign of potential things to come in Portland. Hustled, crashed the glass, and displayed an ability to finish. Should be a nice player in this league for a long time.

Soup Juggler (Dion Waiters, SG, Cavaliers). Showed up out-of-shape and stood around way too much. Defense was average, and downright awful at times. Showed some real promise in isolation, but he won’t get that many opportunities with Kyrie Irving dominating the ball. Outside shot, and understanding of pro game, clearly need some work.

 

[PapaG]

I'd have to believe nobody pointed out Thomas because he's such a whack job that nobody wants to compare their player to him. But Thomas was a fun player to watch, and was often a gifted basketball player.

Zeke was a killer when he played, though. Just very old school, and Jordan never got over Zeke's treatment of him early in his career. Of course, I think that part of the reason Thomas made Jordan an outcast was to fuck with his head, and I think it worked for the first 7 years of MJ's career, until Thomas finally aged along with the Pistons, and Jordan finally beat them when it mattered.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Zeke was a killer when he played, though. Just very old school, and Jordan never got over Zeke's treatment of him early in his career. Of course, I think that part of the reason Thomas made Jordan an outcast was to fuck with his head, and I think it worked for the first 7 years of MJ's career, until Thomas finally aged along with the Pistons, and Jordan finally beat them when it mattered.

Agreed. But he's still a whack job. I really started getting into the NBA when I was 5. Pistons were at the top, Chicago was always fighting and battling Detroit. Detroit was running things until that 1990-91 season. That season was all Blazers and Bulls (until the Lakers beat Portland is the WCF). Detroit then faded. I went to several games that season, as a relative had a great season tickets. I'll never forget Malone's elbow to Thomas' head (was that late-1991??). Thomas had to get 40 stitches.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Same article (sorry to disgress): Meyers Leonard, C, Trail Blazers. Worked well in pick-and-roll situations with Lillard, a good sign of potential things to come in Portland. Hustled, crashed the glass, and displayed an ability to finish. Should be a nice player in this league for a long time.

Soup Juggler (Dion Waiters, SG, Cavaliers). Showed up out-of-shape and stood around way too much. Defense was average, and downright awful at times. Showed some real promise in isolation, but he won’t get that many opportunities with Kyrie Irving dominating the ball. Outside shot, and understanding of pro game, clearly need some work.

Any reason to show what a wasted lottery pick anyone from Syracuse is is ok by me

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Any reason to show what a wasted lottery pick anyone from Syracuse is is ok by me

I should have noted the sections ML and Soup Juggler were listed under.

ML: The Reasons for Hope
SJ: The Strugglers

 

[Mediocre Man]

I should have noted the sections ML and Soup Juggler were listed under.

ML: The Reasons for Hope
SJ: The Strugglers

Struggling was implied when you posted anything about the Soup Juggler

 

[PapaG]

I should have noted the sections ML and Soup Juggler were listed under.

ML: The Reasons for Hope
SJ: The Strugglers

You really have to question why Cleveland took Waiters at #4. It's not like he worked out and rose up the draft boards, like a Russell Westbrook a few years ago, or even Damian Lillard and his individual workouts this last spring.

I really saw nothing exceptional in Waiters' game while at Syracuse, and him coming off of the bench was a red flag for me. Maybe he'll turn it around, but I see a lot of Harold Miner in Dion Waiters.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

You really have to question why Cleveland took Waiters at #4. It's not like he worked out and rose up the draft boards, like a Russell Westbrook a few years ago, or even Damian Lillard and his individual workouts this last spring.

I really saw nothing exceptional in Waiters' game while at Syracuse, and him coming off of the bench was a red flag for me. Maybe he'll turn it around, but I see a lot of Harold Miner in Dion Waiters.

Of course you do - because Dion Waiters literally ate Harold Miner, as well as any other brave soul who dares to get close to his face.

 

[Natebishop3]

It's funny because Isiah Thomas popped in my head, but I guess I figured Zeke was a better scorer. I remember watching a game where the Pistons were playing the Knicks and it seemed like it was just Zeke and Bernard King trading baskets throughout the game.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

You really have to question why Cleveland took Waiters at #4. It's not like he worked out and rose up the draft boards, like a Russell Westbrook a few years ago, or even Damian Lillard and his individual workouts this last spring.

I really saw nothing exceptional in Waiters' game while at Syracuse, and him coming off of the bench was a red flag for me. Maybe he'll turn it around, but I see a lot of Harold Miner in Dion Waiters.

Fez was pimping Soup Juggler so hard, and their inept management was reading our board. They were so fired up by Fez's insistence on Soup Juggler, the Cavs couldn't help themselves.

Now, I think we should all take a few moments and thank Fez. It was his smokescreen, and I think he laid it out perfectly.

Thanks, Fez!!

 

[Natebishop3]

I really hope Soup Juggler catches on with the rest of the league. In fact, someone should forward that shit to Bill Simmons.

 

[PapaG]

I really hope Soup Juggler catches on with the rest of the league. In fact, someone should forward that shit to Bill Simmons.

I must have been gone when Soup Juggler was glossed onto Waiters.

What does it mean?

 

[Natebishop3]

I must have been gone when Soup Juggler was glossed onto Waiters.

What does it mean?

I had never heard it before, but it was one of the pseudonyms that MM tossed out for "Waiter".

 

[Eastoff]

I must have been gone when Soup Juggler was glossed onto Waiters.

What does it mean?

he's a waiter, so sometimes waiters serve soup, and bad waiters juggle soup.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I must have been gone when Soup Juggler was glossed onto Waiters.

What does it mean?

Soup Juggler is a synonym for Waiter

 

[MickZagger]

I don't get the Zeke comparison. Thomas was a career 29% from 3. When I make comparison's I like to take into consideration a players shooting abilities.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I don't get the Zeke comparison. Thomas was a career 29% from 3. When I make comparison's I like to take into consideration a players shooting abilities.

Why? It's not like shooting is an integral part of playing basketball or anything....

 

[PapaG]

Why? It's not like shooting is an integral part of playing basketball or anything....

I was thinking more in terms of on-court demeanor, not pressing things, and just general style.

Zags never got to see Zeke play in his prime. I see some similarities. Not that they're the same player, though.