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Denny Crane said:
Some people say Nixon was a war criminal for bombing Cambodia. But Obama isn't for bombimg Pakistan.

In my book, he's proven he is not to be trusted.

I don't think he's a war criminal for being wrong.
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Cambodia and Pakistan are to be trusted? The same Pakistan that harbored the worst terrorist leader in modern history? The same Pakistan that harbored Bin Laden or the same Cambodia that Pol Pot practiced genocide against his own people in? Black ops like those were common in WWII
 
Also, dviss1 is comparing a cadillac health care plan that mags has with garbage from an obamacare site.

No copay and a $10,000 deductible and limited choice of care is far more expensive than what mags says he pays.

He also commits a serious logical fallacy, a binary choice of giving money to evil insurance company or government can do no wrong. A third choice exists and is the right one - pay the doctor or hospital directly. That system worked for centuries until government got involved for no good reason.

As well, 82% of our hospitals are non profit or government run.
 
magnifier661 said:
It totally pisses me off because I get taxed on my income and I can't write it off. I understand that it's supposed to be all for the kids, but we all know it's not.
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Start a thread about high child support/alimony and you'll get as much support vs. opposition from liberals and conservatives equally. Some issues cut across conventional lines. Meanwhile, I bet you and your mother use some of these tax dodges.

http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2012-04-17/how-to-pay-no-taxes-10-strategies-used-by-the-rich
 
riverman said:
Cambodia and Pakistan are to be trusted? The same Pakistan that harbored the worst terrorist leader in modern history? The same Pakistan that harbored Bin Laden or the same Cambodia that Pol Pot practiced genocide against his own people in? Black ops like those were common in WWII
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The same people who called Nixon a war criminal don't seem to have a beef with Obama being the exact same kind of war criminal. In fact, Pakistan is our ally.
 
Denny Crane said:
The same people who called Nixon a war criminal don't seem to have a beef with Obama being the exact same kind of war criminal. In fact, Pakistan is our ally.
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So is India....ask them about Pakistan sometime
 
Pakistan is a corrupt country..it's government consists of military generals who led a successful coupe and took the country by force. If you think they are our trusted ally..your wrong here. We have to work with them but they were exposed in a huge lie concerning Bin Laden and Obama did the correct thing by getting him after all those years. This isn't something I'd care to debate
 
magnifier661 said:
To be frankly honest. I use zero tax dodges. I believe I pay what I must legally pay. That's why I'm so angry!
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You're not playing the tax evasion game. It's designed to separate the sharp from the dumb, to incentivize a smart ruling class to take from their class' dumber members. A fool and his loot are soon parted.
 
riverman said:
We don't rent houses to their public enemy #1 next to their military headquarters either
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Nixon bombed Cambodia because the enemy found shelter there and attacked from there. Like the Taliban does from Pakistan.

Goose, gander.
 
riverman said:
Pakistan is a corrupt country..it's government consists of military generals who led a successful coupe and took the country by force. If you think they are our trusted ally..your wrong here. We have to work with them but they were exposed in a huge lie concerning Bin Laden and Obama did the correct thing by getting him after all those years. This isn't something I'd care to debate
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So what?
 
jlprk said:
You're not playing the tax evasion game. It's designed to separate the sharp from the dumb, to incentivize a smart ruling class to take from their class' dumber members. A fool and his loot are soon parted.
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This made me think of Bernie Madoff for some reason
 
Denny Crane said:
So what?
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So they have a phony diplomatic relationship with the US at best..and a bomb..it's like saying Marcos could loot his country and retire in Hawaii because we're allies...another case of so what
 
riverman said:
So they have a phony diplomatic relationship with the US at best..and a bomb..it's like saying Marcos could loot his country and retire in Hawaii because we're allies...another case of so what
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It's a case of non-sequitur. Marcos, India, irrelevant.

We're not bombing India, we're not bombing any of our other allies. At least not on purpose.
 
Denny Crane said:
It's a case of non-sequitur. Marcos, India, irrelevant.
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Cambodia, irrelevant. What does what "some people" think about Nixon have to do with Joe Biden exactly?

barfo
 
dviss1 said:
I wasn't going to ask you that but Dayum!! Can I be your dependent? Well you're certainly part of the 1%.
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You're part of the global 1%.

sent from a phone you've probably never heard of
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
So we are all evil assholes of the earth.

sent from a phone you've probably never heard of
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Yes we are. But at least some of us have phones you've heard of.

barfo
 
jlprk said:
You're not playing the tax evasion game. It's designed to separate the sharp from the dumb, to incentivize a smart ruling class to take from their class' dumber members. A fool and his loot are soon parted.
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I am a patriot and disagree with evading any tax. I give no reason for the government to ever audit me.
 
The global one percent? If I wanted to be identified with a group, (be it evil or not) it would be with the poor, the ill or the oppressed.
 
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ripcityboy said:
The global one percent? If I wanted to be identified with a group, (be it evil or not) it would be with the poor, the ill or the oppressed.
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You can't choose who you are identified with when it comes to income level. If you make over $34,000, you are the global 1%. You are an oppressive, crushing, imperialist who's existence is a threat to 99% of the world's population. You pillage the earth of its natural resources for your consumeristic and greedy nature. The fact that you own a computer or a phone, create climate change by using a car, using air conditioning and having a house are unfathomable luxeries for the 99%. Your lifestyle is unimaginable to how the rest of the people on earth live, you are out of touch.

Your luxuries are built on the blood, sweat and tears of those you don't even care about or recognize existing.

I mean that's how it works when we're talking about the 1% in the US, right? Make over $250k or whatever and you're automatically a greedy asshole who wastes their money on frivolous items one would never need.

:MARIS61:
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
You can't choose who you are identified with when it comes to income level. If you make over $34,000, you are the global 1%. You are an oppressive, crushing, imperialist who's existence is a threat to 99% of the world's population. You pillage the earth of its natural resources for your consumeristic and greedy nature. The fact that you own a computer or a phone, create climate change by using a car, using air conditioning and having a house are unfathomable luxeries for the 99%. Your lifestyle is unimaginable to how the rest of the people on earth live, you are out of touch.

Your luxuries are built on the blood, sweat and tears of those you don't even care about or recognize existing.

I mean that's how it works when we're talking about the 1% in the US, right? Make over $250k or whatever and you're automatically a greedy asshole who wastes their money on frivolous items one would never need.

:MARIS61:
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Experiencing any Cognitive Dissonance, lately?
 
Just calling a spade a spade. you can't be all "Oh man, fuck the 1% they are all greedy assholes". Then when you find out you are part of the global 1% you're all like "well, that's different, I'm compassionate for the needs of the poor!"
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Just calling a spade a spade. you can't be all "Oh man, fuck the 1% they are all greedy assholes". Then when you find out you are part of the global 1% you're all like "well, that's different, I'm compassionate for the needs of the poor!"
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I get what your saying. And it's amazing how important the visual interpretation of data is in such studies....
 
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barfo said:
Cambodia, irrelevant. What does what "some people" think about Nixon have to do with Joe Biden exactly?

barfo
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If you judge Nixon as war criminal for bombing cambodia (and laos), then you should judge Biden (Obama) the same way for bombing Pakistan. Both used the same reasoning for the bombing - the enemy attacks in country (Vietnam/Afghanistan) and then runs and hides across the border.

Not non sequitur.
 
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