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Mediocre Man said:
I have a friend who is a scout for the Mavericks, and I asked him about Babbitt. He said he reminded him a little bit of Chris Mullen. "If his motor is there, he could be a good one."
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A bigger, more athletic Chris Mullin? I'm pretty sure Mullin wasn't 6'9" in shoes with a 37" no-step vertical. I'm not saying Babbitt will be Chris Mullin at all, but Babbitt seems like he's a much better rebounder/inside player than Mullin, at least comparing college statstics.
 
A plus for Babbitt is that he was a McDonald's All-American. That's an award that typically is decided during summer AAU tournaments, meaning Babbitt must have played well at national AAU tournaments against his peers.
 
I am not sure who to compare him to. Mullin was on the Dream Team, so I won't go there. Maybe a more athletic and slightly shorter Bargnani. (With also better handles) The kid does look like he can play. I admit the Morrison comparisons scare me, but the fact that he is so much more athletic than Adam give me confidence. Can't wait for summer league, not that that is always a fare assessment for complimentary players.
 
My hope is that he ends up similar to a Josh Childress type of player. An athletic, all-around wing. Obviously, he shoots from range better than Childress...but Childress was extremely efficient scorer, so Babbitt's excellent shooting may be the way he gets that kind of efficiency. I don't know, though, that Babbitt will ever be the defender that Childress is. The main comparison points to me are athleticism, all-around production and heady floor game.
 
Minstrel said:
My hope is that he ends up similar to a Josh Childress type of player. An athletic, all-around wing. Obviously, he shoots from range better than Childress...but Childress was extremely efficient scorer, so Babbitt's excellent shooting may be the way he gets that kind of efficiency. I don't know, though, that Babbitt will ever be the defender that Childress is. The main comparison points to me are athleticism, all-around production and heady floor game.
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Off the bench, I'll take Childress with a better shot, as long as Babbitt is at least average defensively. Then again, for a bench player, it really is about what role is needed, and next year, we need scoring off of the bench to replace what Outlaw and Rudy gave the team in the 54-win season, and neither of them will ever be called good defensive players.
 
HCP said:
Lock this thread please. He won't get any playing time! Unless we are hit with injuries again, he might not ever even be on the active roster!
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BUMP!
 
HCP said:
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Lock this thread please. He won't get any playing time! Unless we are hit with injuries again, he might not ever even be on the active roster!BUMP!
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Why didn't you stop the Blazers from drafting him???
 
I've said before that his game and skill set remind me a lot of Luke Jackson, and it appears they'll have a similar career path. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Look Nate just doesn't think he can help out there or he would get some run. You might just see him sooner then you think if LA is really hurt!
 
HCP said:
Look Nate just doesn't think he can help out there or he would get some run. You might just see him sooner then you think if LA is really hurt!
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With Rudy going 1 for 9 he can't get some run? With no legimate backup SF he can't get some run, we would just rather play a guard rather than him? Ridiculous. If Babbit was worth a fuck he would be on the floor.
 
Quick this morning on MSP jokingly intimated that drafting Babbitt was KP's parting shot at PA. Might be plausible, especially considering how PA treated KP at the end.
 
I would think if Bourne and Buchanan were involved, they would have stopped the pick if they thought he was that terrible. After all, they were both employed by the team at that point
 
yuyuza1 said:
Quick this morning on MSP jokingly intimated that drafting Babbitt was KP's parting shot at PA. Might be plausible, especially considering how PA treated KP at the end.
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Definitely. Hey Paul, how do you like this draft pick? Oh and were going to trade up for a two gimp kneed guard while were at it, and I am going to set up a deal to trade Jerryd Bayless for a bag of fucking popcorn, and leave the team with 2 scrubs at backup PG.
 
Is it? Dude can't even get any PT when we're running Nic and LA ragged every night, and with guys like Rudy going 1-10. Nate is hard on rookies and plays them sparingly, but not playing him at all is sort of an indication that he blows. Hard.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Quick this morning on MSP jokingly intimated that drafting Babbitt was KP's parting shot at PA. Might be plausible, especially considering how PA treated KP at the end.
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Babbitt over Bledsoe and Fields is looking atrocious right about now.

Well, at least Claver is showing signs of life over in the ACB.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Babbitt over Bledsoe and Fields is looking atrocious right about now.

Well, at least Claver is showing signs of life over in the ACB.
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Babbitt showed signs of life in a lesser league also. 18/6 in the D league. I don't understand why Claver's numbers mean squat in Euro ball?
 
yuyuza1 said:
Is it? Dude can't even get any PT when we're running Nic and LA ragged every night, and with guys like Rudy going 1-10. Nate is hard on rookies and plays them sparingly, but not playing him at all is sort of an indication that he blows. Hard.
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I agree with this . . . how bad does Nate think Babbit is for him not to get any run during times big men are dropping like flies. Marks gets more PT than Babbit, and you've seen the thread on Marks.

Props to Little Alex for a solid analysis and more so for sticking to his opinion in the face of other posters and national writers suggesting Babbit was a steal or was a potential player to help immediately.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Babbitt over Bledsoe and Fields is looking atrocious right about now.

Well, at least Claver is showing signs of life over in the ACB.
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Bledsoe has a PER of 10.4, an Ortg of 94, and a Drtg of 109. He's atrocious right now.

Plus, when Babbit was drafted, Bayless was still the backup PG. That Bayless was eventually traded away for nothing of value this season isn't Babbit's fault, is it?

For a quick comparison, Patty Mills has a PER of 13.0, and Ortg of 101, and a Drtg of 109, while Armon Johnson has a PER of 8.4, and Ortg of 88, and a Drtg of 111. Both of those guys are comparable to Bledso (Mills is "better"), and both can be cut at any moment without worrying about their first-round contract.
 
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PapaG said:
Bledsoe has a PER of 10.4, an Ortg of 94, and a Drtg of 109. He's atrocious right now.

Plus, when Babbit was drafted, Bayless was still the backup PG. That Bayless was eventually traded away for nothing of value this season isn't Babbit's fault, is it?

For a quick comparison, Patty Mills has a PER of 13.0, and Ortg of 101, and a Drtg of 109, while Armon Johnson has a PER of 8.4, and Ortg of 88, and a Drtg of 111. Both of those guys are comparable to Bledso (Mills is "better"), and both can be cut at any moment without worrying about their first-round contract.
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I disagree with you. Bledsoe was horrible in the beginning of the season but has shown steady progress and has played much better the last few weeks. Unless Mills is scoring, he is a detriment to the team while on the floor. He can't defend, and he isn't a big assist guy. So if you get no offense out of him, you basically get a really bad defender out on the floor. You can spout all the stats you want. Stats only go so far.
 
hasoos said:
I disagree with you. Bledsoe was horrible in the beginning of the season but has shown steady progress and has played much better the last few weeks. Unless Mills is scoring, he is a detriment to the team while on the floor. He can't defend, and he isn't a big assist guy. So if you get no offense out of him, you basically get a really bad defender out on the floor.
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The advanced stats say otherwise. Whether or not that holds in the future is of course up for debate, but as of now, Bledsoe is the lesser player on a cumulative basis, at least statistically.

You can spout all the stats you want. Stats only go so far.
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As do opinions. I do tend to take statistical evidence over uneducated opinions.

I think Mills is the better player right now. Maybe that's incorrect as well, but stats do support it; team stats like Ortg and Drtg included. Offensive WS also show that MIlls is somewhat of a plus, while Bledsoe is a negative. Assist% also shows that Mills is a "better" passer than Bledsoe, albeit barely (26% to 25%). Bledsoe wins in per/36 assists (6.0 to 5.5).

Bledsoe is a year younger than Mills, though, so that may change as he gets older. Plus, Mills' usage rate is too high for his production.
 
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Canzano is on a warpath right now on the BFT about this draft.

We were viciously "Pritchslapped" last summer.
 
hasoos said:
I disagree with you. Bledsoe was horrible in the beginning of the season but has shown steady progress and has played much better the last few weeks.
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Bledsoe has had a GameScore of over 10 one time in his last 20 games.

In his first 20 NBA games, he had 6 double-digit GameScores and was starting.

Maybe going to the bench because of Baron Davis screwed him up, but he was a much better player at the beginning of the season. He has regressed since roughly Game 22.

The Clippers, conversely, are playing much better presently than they did with Bledsoe playing "well".

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bledser01/gamelog/2011/
 
Yeah, I had higher hopes for Babbitt this season. However, I'm not going to rip him until I see him on the floor for extended minutes. It takes a few minutes to get into the flow of the game and even more time to develop chemistry with your teammates. He gets a run of only a few minutes and then he's yanked. He doesn't know when he's going in the game, with whom and for how long.

Like mgb said, it's a little early to write him off.
 
KP's only good draft pick was Nicolas Batum and that was pushed onto him by Jason Filippi, the International scout.

Freeland
Koponen
Oden
Johnson
Babbitt
Elliot 'double knee surgery' Williams

He's wasted A LOT of Paul's money. Why Larry Bird is asking for his opinion is beyond me.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
KP's only good draft pick was Nicolas Batum and that was pushed onto him by Jason Filippi, the International scout.

Freeland
Koponen
Oden
Johnson
Babbitt
Elliot 'double knee surgery' Williams

He's wasted A LOT of Paul's money. Why Larry Bird is asking for his opinion is beyond me.
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Why Paul Allen would fire the guy who drafted LMA/Roy (Steve Patterson) and promote the guy who wanted Adam Morrison (Kevin Pritchard) is beyond me.

Unless it didn't happen that way ... nah, couldn't be.
 
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