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I used to think he'd hang around in the league as a three point specialist. Not anymore.
 
Still can't figure out which team he ended up on, but Russia shouldn't be that bad.

Both Nolan (Croatia) and Luke ended up in better destinations than I expected.
 
Russia won't be bad ... as long as no one thinks he's gay. Serious.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Maybe. He's a good guy but a very marginal NBA player. He'd be a good person at the #13-15 spot on a bench.
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He has a good agent. Duffy wants him to get some playing time this year. He used Danny Green and Patrick Beverly as examples of clients who used Europe to develop their game. Luke will be back in the league at some capacity.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Maybe. He's a good guy but a very marginal NBA player. He'd be a good person at the #13-15 spot on a bench.
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....except in the modern NBA you really want guys in that position who have some upside but currently suck, or grizzled vets who can give a strong locker room presence. Luke ain't either.
 
Udoh at #6...... God damn!


Sent from HCPs Baller-Ass iPhone 5...FAMS!
 
HCP said:
Udoh at #6...... God damn!
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Udoh is good! Maybe not #6 good, but Milwaukee insisted on having him included in the Bogut trade and GState almost balked. But now Milwaukee have Sanders and Henson he's in a bit of a logjam. I wish we could get him: he's a great team defender and we could really use one.
 
So how many players from last years bench are still in the league (that aren't on the team currently):

Pavlovic: Gone
Jeffries: Gone
Smith: Gone
Babbitt: Gone
Maynor: Signed contract with Wizards.
Price: (waived halfway through season) Signed with Magic. Not sure of the status of his contract (guaranteed or not)

got damn that's a bad bench. Even just adding Mo Williams and trading for Thomas Robinson makes this years bench miles better than last years.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
He has a good agent. Duffy wants him to get some playing time this year. He used Danny Green and Patrick Beverly as examples of clients who used Europe to develop their game. Luke will be back in the league at some capacity.
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I didn't know that. It makes sense.
 
julius said:
So how many players from last years bench are still in the league (that aren't on the team currently):

Pavlovic: Gone
Jeffries: Gone
Smith: Gone
Babbitt: Gone
Maynor: Signed contract with Wizards.
Price: (waived halfway through season) Signed with Magic. Not sure of the status of his contract (guaranteed or not)

got damn that's a bad bench. Even just adding Mo Williams and trading for Thomas Robinson makes this years bench miles better than last years.
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I didn't realize just how bad it was until this.

Dang, that was a crappy bench.
 
julius said:
So how many players from last years bench are still in the league (that aren't on the team currently):

Pavlovic: Gone
Jeffries: Gone
Smith: Gone
Babbitt: Gone
Maynor: Signed contract with Wizards.
Price: (waived halfway through season) Signed with Magic. Not sure of the status of his contract (guaranteed or not)

got damn that's a bad bench. Even just adding Mo Williams and trading for Thomas Robinson makes this years bench miles better than last years.
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See, its posts like this that should confirm to everyone why its not hard to see that we will much much MUCH better based this year based on our improved bench alone. There was no chance to stay in a game with that bench if the starters didnt 1) have a great game AND 2) play basically the whole game.
 
Boise Blazer said:
See, its posts like this that should confirm to everyone why its not hard to see that we will much much MUCH better based this year based on our improved bench alone. There was no chance to stay in a game with that bench if the starters didnt 1) have a great game AND 2) play basically the whole game.
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I think the difference is, and I am probably wrong, is that some people are looking at our benches potential and seeing a lot more wins. Other are looking at what they have done so far and seeing not a lot more wins

Our bench last year was

Leonard
Price/Maynor
Babbitt
Pavlovic
Barton
Freeland
Claver
Jeffries
Smith

Now it is

Leonard Might be better than himself
Williams Might be better than Maynor
Wright Will drfinitely be better than Babbitt
Barton Might be better than himself
McCollum Might be better than last years Pavlovic
Crabbe Probably won't be better than last years Pavlovic
Freeland Might be better than himself
Claver Might be better than himself
Watson won't matter just like Smith
Robinson Might be better than Jeffries

They could absolutely be better, but to say it as fact is dumb because of progression and experience. Pavlovic, Jeffries and even Babbitt had experience that a lot of our guys don't have this year
 
Mediocre Man said:
I think the difference is, and I am probably wrong, is that some people are looking at our benches potential and seeing a lot more wins. Other are looking at what they have done so far and seeing not a lot more wins

Our bench last year was

Leonard
Price/Maynor
Babbitt
Pavlovic
Barton
Freeland
Claver
Jeffries
Smith

Now it is

Leonard Might be better than himself
Williams Might be better than Maynor
Wright Will drfinitely be better than Babbitt
Barton Might be better than himself
McCollum Might be better than last years Pavlovic
Crabbe Probably won't be better than last years Pavlovic
Freeland Might be better than himself
Claver Might be better than himself
Watson won't matter just like Smith
Robinson Might be better than Jeffries

They could absolutely be better, but to say it as fact is dumb because of progression and experience. Pavlovic, Jeffries and even Babbitt had experience that a lot of our guys don't have this year
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It feels like you are trying to hard to not see what 99% of the rest of us do. The bench will be better. We had one of the worst benches in the HISTORY of the league. There is really no where to go but up. And for the all "experience" it didnt do us a damn bit of good.
 
Forget our bench last year. Of course we're miles better this year.

How do we compare against one of the better benches in the league last year, like GSW?

Mo vs Jack -- tie
CJ vs Bazemore -- CJ
Wright vs RJ -- Wright
TRob vs Landry -- Landry
Leonard vs Ezeli/Biedrins -- tie

Remaining scrubs -- tie

And GS got significantly worse this year after losing both Jack and Landry. Our bench will be one of the stronger ones this year. Silly to think otherwise.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Forget our bench last year. Of course we're miles better this year.

How do we compare against one of the better benches in the league last year, like GSW?

Mo vs Jack -- tie
CJ vs Bazemore -- CJ
Wright vs RJ -- Wright
TRob vs Landry -- Landry
Leonard vs Ezeli/Biedrins -- tie

Remaining scrubs -- tie

And GS got significantly worse this year after losing both Jack and Landry. Our bench will be one of the stronger ones this year. Silly to think otherwise.
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Leonard tie with Ezeli AND Biedrins?

McCollum, who we haven't seen play a second of NBA basketball better than Bazemore?
 
Mo might be better than Maynor? There's no "might" about it.
Robinson might be better than Jeffries? Again, I don't think there's any "might" about it. Maybe he won't be better than Jeffries in his prime, but he'll certainly be better than 12/13 Jeffries.
And given that Pav really didn't do anything, I think it's pretty much a lock that CJ WILL BE better than Pavlovic.
Even if you disagree with Robinson/CJ, Mo and Wright ALONE make our bench infinitely superior to last year's bench.

However, what I think a lot of people are mis-remembering is that we rarely platooned the entire starting unit for the entire bench unit. People seem to be suggesting that we'd put our bench in and just absolutely come to a stand-still. While this happened on occasion, it wasn't something that occurred game-in and game-out. We mitigated our crappy bench by shuffling them in with starters - which is pretty typical. So the difference isn't going to be night and day, more like night and evening.
 
blue9 said:
Mo might be better than Maynor? There's no "might" about it.
Robinson might be better than Jeffries? Again, I don't think there's any "might" about it. Maybe he won't be better than Jeffries in his prime, but he'll certainly be better than 12/13 Jeffries.
And given that Pav really didn't do anything, I think it's pretty much a lock that CJ WILL BE better than Pavlovic.
Even if you disagree with Robinson/CJ, Mo and Wright ALONE make our bench infinitely superior to last year's bench.

However, what I think a lot of people are mis-remembering is that we rarely platooned the entire starting unit for the entire bench unit. People seem to be suggesting that we'd put our bench in and just absolutely come to a stand-still. While this happened on occasion, it wasn't something that occurred game-in and game-out. We mitigated our crappy bench by shuffling them in with starters - which is pretty typical. So the difference isn't going to be night and day, more like night and evening.
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Yes there is because we have no idea how Mo will do on this team....as a back up. look at the difference in seasons for Crawchuck as an example of this.
Jeffries was an exceptional defensive player. Robinson has been on 3 teams in less than a year.
Again, saying a player who has never once played an NBA game that wasn't a can't miss prospect coming out of college will be better than someone who is an average at best NBA player is silly.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Leonard tie with Ezeli AND Biedrins?

McCollum, who we haven't seen play a second of NBA basketball better than Bazemore?
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Meyers was better than those either of those two last year. I figured he would tie with their combo this year.

Biedrins- 0.5pts, 2.9rebs, 0.8blks in 53 games
Ezeli- 2.4pts, 4.0rebs, 0.9blks in 41 games
(Draymond Green)- 2.9pts, 3.3rebs, 0.3blks in 79 games

Leonard- 5.5pts, 3.7rebs, 0.6blks in 69 games.

Bazemore averaged 2pts, 0.4rebs, 0.4asts. Yes, CJ will be better than that this year. Kinda ridiculous that I actually had to spell this out. Your judgement of our team is so clouded.
 
I liked Maynor a lot. Call me crazy, but he ran the team well when he was in there. That being said I was impressed watching Mo last year in Utah. A lot of their fans who i talk with liked him as a starter at PG. I would not go that far, but he will be solid as a BU.

Wright to me is the biggest factor because he can (almost) get more minutes by himself as our whole bench did last year And he will allow Nic to play some SG when needed against bigger guards.

I agree with MM about some of the others being question marks at this point. We are guessing on a few until they play. I do think we will be better at the end of the season then we will be at the beginning. So be prepared for some growing pains at first, or maybe some bigger minutes for our starters early on.

But I also expect the starters to be better this year as a whole.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Meyers was better than those either of those two last year. I figured he would tie with their combo this year.

Biedrins- 0.5pts, 2.9rebs, 0.8blks in 53 games
Ezeli- 2.4pts, 4.0rebs, 0.9blks in 41 games
(Draymond Green)- 2.9pts, 3.3rebs, 0.3blks in 79 games

Leonard- 5.5pts, 3.7rebs, 0.6blks in 69 games.

Bazemore averaged 2pts, 0.4rebs, 0.4asts. Yes, CJ will be better than that this year. Kinda ridiculous that I actually had to spell this out. Your judgement of our team is so clouded.
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Leonard was a sieve on defense. Literally one of the worst defensive bigs I have ever seen in my life. How was he better than Ezeli?

Bazemore played 4.4 MPG. His Per 36 MPG averages of 16/3/3 with an 11.3 PER is what CJ will be measured by. Bazemore also had a defensive rating of 104, which CJ should also have no trouble beating according to you

Again, i don't want anyone to think that I believe there is not a chance in hell we won't be better, or even that we probably will be better. But statements like guys like McCollum who haven't played a second will be better than guys that have is dumb.

We will probably have a better bench on paper, but who knows if that will make us a better team on the court

Adding Strickland made us better on paper too.

Adding Cupcake and Crawchuck made us better on paper

Adding Ass Clown made us better on paper

But none of them really made us better on the court
 
Mediocre Man said:
Yes there is because we have no idea how Mo will do on this team....as a back up. look at the difference in seasons for Crawchuck as an example of this.
Jeffries was an exceptional defensive player. Robinson has been on 3 teams in less than a year.
Again, saying a player who has never once played an NBA game that wasn't a can't miss prospect coming out of college will be better than someone who is an average at best NBA player is silly.
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You're just arguing to argue. "Well if the pH balance of the soil changed we don't KNOW that grass would still be green."
By your logic we have no idea how ANY of our players will play - the roster is different, so LMA might become Luke Babbitt and Lillard will grow a third arm and get called for a triple-dribble.
 
blue9 said:
You're just arguing to argue. "Well if the pH balance of the soil changed we don't KNOW that grass would still be green."
By your logic we have no idea how ANY of our players will play - the roster is different, so LMA might become Luke Babbitt and Lillard will grow a third arm and get called for a triple-dribble.
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No, this post of yours is to argue for the sake of arguing.

We know what Aldridge is. he won't become Luke Babbitt, and to say so is baiting.

Lillard won't grow a third arm, and there is no rule violation for a triple dribble....again, baiting

You are like the master baiter

Now what might happen is teams scheme to stop Lillard and his production goes down. Force him right and funnel him to the side lines for double teams off Lopez. He didn't see that very much last season.
 
And we also KNOW that Mo is better than anyone we had on our bench last season. Even if he goes "Crawford" on us (no evidence to support such a theory) that would STILL be far better than anything we got out of our bench last season.
And we also know that neither Pavlovic nor Jeffries contributed anything meaningful to our season - at all. To suggest that their replacements might not be as good is just arguing for the sake of it. While there's no evidence in CJ's/Robinson's favor (due to them both, essentially, being rookies), there's also no evidence to suggest there's even a remote likelihood that they'll be worse. You're just playing the "all things are possible" game - which while true, doesn't really add to a conversation. If you want to keep suggesting that our bench might not be better than last season's bench there's really no point in engaging any further.
 
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