Making the case for Roy Hibbert

[Draco]

Its odd to me, fans here talk so much about how we need to strengthen our bench but then some want to trade away multiple starters for a lateral upgrade. Other fans dont want to add a starting quality player to our bench because they think he needs a bigger role. I don't get it.

 

[Natebishop3]

Its odd to me, fans here talk so much about how we need to strengthen our bench but then some want to trade away multiple starters for a lateral upgrade. Other fans dont want to add a starting quality player to our bench because they think he needs a bigger role. I don't get it.

You consider Hibbert a lateral upgrade?

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

My bench wish list.
Patty Mills
Will Barton
Boris Diaw
TRob
Joel Freeland

I'd say yes to Diaw because of his versatility but no to Mills... He is a system player.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'd say yes to Diaw because of his versatility but no to Mills... He is a system player.

So is Diaw. That dude was very "meh" when he was with the Bobcats.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

So is Diaw. That dude was very "meh" when he was with the Bobcats.

He was putting 11/5/4 that's pretty good IMO.

 

[Natebishop3]

He was putting 11/5/4 that's pretty good IMO.

Not the year they cut him.

6/3/5

 

[Denny Crane]

Rolo is a great fit, but a motivated Hibbert is a huge upgrade. He's a viable option on offense in the post. A perfect complement to LMA.

The problem is the Blazers have to come up with salaries to balance the trade. It's going to create a hole in the lineup, or you end up starting a guy like Mo.

 

[BigGameDamian]

LoL at keeping Lopez and trading for Hibbert.

 

[Natebishop3]

Rolo is a great fit, but a motivated Hibbert is a huge upgrade. He's a viable option on offense in the post. A perfect complement to LMA.

The problem is the Blazers have to come up with salaries to balance the trade. It's going to create a hole in the lineup, or you end up starting a guy like Mo.

Rolo/Wes is enough to match salaries and then you use the MLE to sign a replacement for Wes.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Rolo/Wes is enough to match salaries and then you use the MLE to sign a replacement for Wes.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=krhs6hv

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Not the year they cut him.

6/3/5

That's with the SA numbers. He was putting up 7/5/4 before being waived. Those are great bench numbers.

 

[Denny Crane]

Rolo/Wes is enough to match salaries and then you use the MLE to sign a replacement for Wes.

And the MLE gets you a Mo.

Your rotation gets one player shorter, due to the 2-for-1.

 

[RR7]

Rolo/Wes is enough to match salaries and then you use the MLE to sign a replacement for Wes.

I don't like including Wesley in the deal because of his presence in the locker room. And Hibbert coming from a unstable seeming locker. Seems unlikely, but rolo, Wright and Crabbe fits financially. Swaps out their c, but saves them also almost 5 million which helps in bringing back Stephenson.

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't like including Wesley in the deal because of his presence in the locker room. And Hibbert coming from a unstable seeming locker. Seems unlikely, but rolo, Wright and Crabbe fits financially. Swaps out their c, but saves them also almost 5 million which helps in bringing back Stephenson.

Careful when dealing with Indy. You might get Pritchslapped.

 

[BigGameDamian]

And the MLE gets you a Mo.

Your rotation gets one player shorter, due to the 2-for-1.

I really like Barton.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I don't like including Wesley in the deal because of his presence in the locker room. And Hibbert coming from a unstable seeming locker. Seems unlikely, but rolo, Wright and Crabbe fits financially. Swaps out their c, but saves them also almost 5 million which helps in bringing back Stephenson.

This would be the likely scenario in terms of a trade and I still don't like it. I rather just wait and see if the Thunder amnesty Perkins (who I hate) then sign him to be the backup 5 who can play D and if that doesn't workout look for guys like Okafor, Mohammed or Steimsma.

 

[Denny Crane]

This would be the likely scenario in terms of a trade and I still don't like it. I rather just wait and see if the Thunder amnesty Perkins (who I hate) then sign him to be the backup 5 who can play D and if that doesn't workout look for guys like Okafor, Mohammed or Steimsma.

I think Nazr is retiring to go into a front office job.

 

[RR7]

This would be the likely scenario in terms of a trade and I still don't like it. I rather just wait and see if the Thunder amnesty Perkins (who I hate) then sign him to be the backup 5 who can play D and if that doesn't workout look for guys like Okafor, Mohammed or Steimsma.

But we could sign any of those guys to backup hibbert.

 

[RR7]

I don't like including Wesley in the deal because of his presence in the locker room. And Hibbert coming from a unstable seeming locker. Seems unlikely, but rolo, Wright and Crabbe fits financially. Swaps out their c, but saves them also almost 5 million which helps in bringing back Stephenson.

The deal would drop them to 60,050,000 in salary. The tax is expected to increase to about 75 million, giving them space to use roughly full MLE and sign Stephenson to a good sized starting deal and still stay below the tax line.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

But we could sign any of those guys to backup hibbert.

Yes, but we would be sacrificing chemistry and losing out about 5 million in cap space that could be used to sign another good player.

Lopez+Defensive backup center+Good veteran bench player(s) > Hibbert+Defensive backup center

 

[RR7]

Yes, but we would be sacrificing chemistry and losing out about 5 million in cap space that could be used to sign another good player.

Lopez+Defensive backup center+Good veteran bench player(s) > Hibbert+Defensive backup center

We won't have 5 million in cap space regardless. We'll have our MLE, BAE. So we use MLE for backup big, or BAE for backup big in either scenario. With neither Wright nor Crabbe in our normal rotation going forward, most likely, all this move does is swap Rolo with Hibbert, and make Paul pay a little more money.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

We won't have 5 million in cap space regardless. We'll have our MLE, BAE. So we use MLE for backup big, or BAE for backup big in either scenario. With neither Wright nor Crabbe in our normal rotation going forward, most likely, all this move does is swap Rolo with Hibbert, and make Paul pay a little more money.

Hmmm well that makes it a little more interesting. Still it would be hard to trade a guy like Lopez who gives it his all every game for Hibbert who disappears but is ultimately more talented.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

And the MLE gets you a Mo.

Your rotation gets one player shorter, due to the 2-for-1.

Blazers got a Mo for about half the MLE last season.

 

[Denny Crane]

Blazers got a Mo for about half the MLE last season.

On a one year deal with a player ETO. So he could audition for a bigger contract.

 

[santeesioux]

Who would start at sg if Wes was traded? Future Stuckey with the MLE (that's an inside joke on another forum, sorry)?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Considering intangibles, Lopez' team value is not really much lower than Hibbert's. If Hibbert's trade value really is at an all-time low, then trading two starters for him would be overpaying. If Indy really is concerned about chemistry, they should be willing to swap Hibbert for RoLo + filler (ie, Wright). Any more than that, and I say no.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I would offer some young talent for him. I think both Thomas Robinson and CJ have value from astute basketball scouts. I would offer both along with Leonard and Wright. They could always use some of them in other trades as well.

I would then move Freeland back to PF and give Claver minutes at SF. It would give us 4 decent bigs and Indiana two good young players (plus Leonard could develop as well)

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I would swap Rolo and filler for Hibbert.

I see there is a risk and I would miss Rolo's offense (and personality). But this should make the defense better and maybe even the offense, depending on which Hibbert shows up.

 

[Strenuus]

I would offer some young talent for him. I think both Thomas Robinson and CJ have value from astute basketball scouts. I would offer both along with Leonard and Wright. They could always use some of them in other trades as well.

I would then move Freeland back to PF and give Claver minutes at SF. It would give us 4 decent bigs and Indiana two good young players (plus Leonard could develop as well)

Really? That's horrible. It will take Rolo or Wes or Batum. Not just our shitty ass bench to make Indianas bench even more shitty. Be smart about this.

 

[RoyToy]

Just say no to overrated Hibbert