Malcolm Brogdon trade ideas

[Whyachi]

The PTSD from the Dame/CJ era is real.

I just saw a rando highlight of a Blazers against L.A. from about 4-5 years ago.

It was:
>Ant
>CJ
>a 6'5" Blazer i didn't recognize
>Nassir Little (6'5") at PF
>and 6'8" Carmelo trying his best to wrestle with the Lakers Centers.

what the Smurf lineup ??
I was out of state for the Melo seasons in Portland. I would have been on here bitchin' up a storm seeing Blazers getting tossed around like flapjacks.

 

[KingSpeed]

Do you really think the world is that black and white? Com’on man. Conan O’Brien finally got his shot at being a late night host when Leno decided to hang it up. Leno decided to have an ego and come back, so NBC decided to put Leno on a show LATER than the Tonight Show, Conan was still the host of the Tonight Show. Conan decided to leave, seeing this as a sign of disrespect. Conan is the only late night host I’ve ever considered genuine, not selfish in the very least. Never considered Conan “not a team player”.

That’s one example. If you shit on it, I’m not sure where to continue the debate without substance. I have yet to hear you list even five 28ppg guys (or even 23ppg guys in their early 20s) in the NBA that was willing to come off the bench in NBA history. This whole argument doesn’t happen if you could name more than a few, it just hasn’t happened.

I understand you were giving a scenario, but the logic you laid out disregards any human emotion. It is the same way CEOs look at their employees as numbers and not humans. If everything were as simple as you laid out, thoughts like “only Lebron can handle Kyrie”, “gotta make sure DA feels involved”, etc would cease to exist. Gordon Hayward said his main reason for not re-signing with the Jazz was because they didn’t extend him after his third year. Never seemed like an unselfish guy to me.

That’s not what happened. Leno left the Tonight Show and moved to the 10 o’clock hour. Conan moved from the 12:30 hour into the Tonight Show and Jimmy Fallon took the 12:30 hour. Then Leno decided to return to the Tonight Show and they had grown to like Fallon at 12:30 so Conan was jobless (he didn’t quit, he was fired) until TBS made an offer. When Leno left for the second time, Fallon took the Tonight Show and Seth Meyers took the 12:30 hour.

 

[KingSpeed]

I just saw a rando highlight of a Blazers against L.A. from about 4-5 years ago.

It was:
>Ant
>CJ
>a 6'5" Blazer i didn't recognize
>Nassir Little (6'5") at PF
>and 6'8" Carmelo trying his best to wrestle with the Lakers Centers.

what the Smurf lineup ??
I was out of state for the Melo seasons in Portland. I would have been on here bitchin' up a storm seeing Blazers getting tossed around like flapjacks.

We went to playoffs both Melo years. We haven’t been to playoffs since.

 

[KingSpeed]

I'd wait till Scoot is at least an above average starter to even think about trading Simons.

I also don't agree with the assumption that a Scoot/Simons backcourt would be Dame/CJ all over again. They may compliment each other better.

No reason to wait to trade Simons. It’s not like we’re winning with him. His trade value won’t be better than it is now. I love Simons but I think the sooner we start the Scoot/Sharpe Era the better. Not up to me though. We’ll see what happens.

 

[Natebishop3]

That’s not what happened. Leno left the Tonight Show and moved to the 10 o’clock hour. Conan moved from the 12:30 hour into the Tonight Show and Jimmy Fallon took the 12:30 hour. Then Leno decided to return to the Tonight Show and they had grown to like Fallon at 12:30 so Conan was jobless (he didn’t quit, he was fired) until TBS made an offer. When Leno left for the second time, Fallon took the Tonight Show and Seth Meyers took the 12:30 hour.

Mostly because Leno was tanking hard at 10:30 and he was also hurting Conan's numbers.

 

[KingSpeed]

Mostly because Leno was tanking hard at 10:30 and he was also hurting Conan's numbers.

No. Leno was on at 10pm. How was he hurting Conan’s numbers? Conan didn’t come on til 11:30 after the news.

 

[KingSpeed]

Undertand, typo's happen. I'm with you about Scoot/Shae. I think that is the future backcourt for Portland. I want nothing to do with a three guard lineup with Sharpe at the three. Then we are under sized at the two and three. I understand some not wanting to move Ant, but he is an undersized two. Let him get his points now hoping a great deal presents itself. Portland will also have to make a decision between Camara/Thubulle. Of course Thybulle can block all trades this season. Then you have Brogdon and Grant and wether either will be moved. Roster is far from set even for this season possibly. Injuries have been both a curse and a blessing this season. Players have gotten rest while others get playing time. Should be very interesting the rest of the way.

Why do we have to choose between Thybulle and Camara? Depth is important. Has Thybulle complained about coming off the bench?

 

[KingSpeed]

We give the Knicks an upgrade at guard (Fournier is dead weight to them), bad blood publicly. And they give us an upgrade at PF, while getting one that is a better shooter. We get a PF that can rebound.

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Why would Knicks trade an All NBA player for Grant? Sure, Brogdon is nice but not worth giving up Randle.

 

[KingSpeed]

To me, sending Brogdon to the Magic for one of WCJ, Bitazde, or Wagner and a 1st would be the best deal for us. Wagner isn’t going anywhere. But one of Bitazde or WCJ would be a great addition to the front court. WCJ has been injured, but he has two cheap years after this one. Bitazde can be re-signed this summer to be the backup C.

Which Wagner?

 

[Natebishop3]

No. Leno was on at 10pm. How was he hurting Conan’s numbers? Conan didn’t come on til 11:30 after the news.

Because he was snaking top tier guests in the slot before Conan.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

No reason to wait to trade Simons. It’s not like we’re winning with him. His trade value won’t be better than it is now. I love Simons but I think the sooner we start the Scoot/Sharpe Era the better. Not up to me though. We’ll see what happens.

I actually disagree. If Ant finishes the season top 15 in scoring and proves he can do it for a full season his value could be higher. We need to trade him for a starting level piece. Let's go into the draft and see where we land and make decisions from there. Again, if you wanted Ausar Thompson and additional pieces, I think you could absolutely get them from Detroit which would be super attractive.

 

[Whyachi]

We went to playoffs both Melo years. We haven’t been to playoffs since.

and Portland may have won in the playoffs, if Olshey had hired better bigs to back Melo defensively down low.

 

[beast blazer]

Why would Knicks trade an All NBA player for Grant? Sure, Brogdon is nice but not worth giving up Randle.

I don't know if they would. But if they covet Brogdon, maybe they'd settle on the downgrade to Grant, which I don't think is that drastic. Grant is a much better shooter.

 

[OneSport3]

I think a potential candidate to trade for Brogdon would be Brooklyn. They’ve been struggling recently and they have an abundance of wings with no PG. They’ve been playing Dinwiddie at PG which he is not one.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think a potential candidate to trade for Brogdon would be Brooklyn. They’ve been struggling recently and they have an abundance of wings with no PG. They’ve been playing Dinwiddie at PG which he is not one.

Clowney still sounds good to me, but not a lot of good options for "filler".
Dinwiddie, if they don't want to resign him this summer, but I assume they want to keep him.
Or Dorian Finney-Smith (2 more years after this)

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Clowney still sounds good to me, but not a lot of good options for "filler".
Dinwiddie, if they don't want to resign him this summer, but I assume they want to keep him.
Or Dorian Finney-Smith (2 more years after this)

Would happily take DFS & Clowney

 

[BankTeller]

Would happily take DFS & Clowney

I’m guessing no draft compensation. But that’s fine, I’d love this deal, DFS would fetch a 1st for sure.

 

[wizenheimer]

I think a potential candidate to trade for Brogdon would be Brooklyn. They’ve been struggling recently and they have an abundance of wings with no PG. They’ve been playing Dinwiddie at PG which he is not one.

he's probably more of a PG than CJ or Ant or Jamal Murray or Maxey. He's averaging 6.5 assists in 32 minutes; 7.4 per36. More than that though is he has a 4.06 assist/turnover ratio which is excellent. He's just not a very good shooter; good at drawing fouls though

as for Brogdon, I guess it depends on what the Nets are intending for this season. They are 15-18 and the couple of times I've seen them they look pretty average, and that's being generous.

 

[Natebishop3]

he's probably more of a PG than CJ or Ant or Jamal Murray or Maxey. He's averaging 6.5 assists in 32 minutes; 7.4 per36. More than that though is he has a 4.06 assist/turnover ratio which is excellent. He's just not a very good shooter; good at drawing fouls though

as for Brogdon, I guess it depends on what the Nets are intending for this season. They are 15-18 and the couple of times I've seen them they look pretty average, and that's being generous.

I definitely think he's a better point guard than CJ.

 

[Whyachi]

give the Lakers help. They can't shoot sometimes.
Brogdon for Vanderbilt, Hayes, more scrubs, picks, and cash considerations. Perhaps a 3 way deal?

 

[BIG Q]

give the Lakers help. They can't shoot sometimes.
Brogdon for Vanderbilt, Hayes, more scrubs, picks, and cash considerations. Perhaps a 3 way deal?

With all due respect and in all honesty, FUCK the Lakers. There, I had to say it.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think a potential candidate to trade for Brogdon would be Brooklyn. They’ve been struggling recently and they have an abundance of wings with no PG. They’ve been playing Dinwiddie at PG which he is not one.

Brooklyn could be a trade candidate for ANY of our guys. I actually think they might be interested in Ayton (whom I've already given up on). I'd take Ben Simmons, especially if they'd throw in Day'Ron Sharpe.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Is Dariq Whitehead any good?
If you really want to go young (Which I am not thrilled with) Clowney, Whitehead, and Simmons for Brogdon and Grant.
I bet they are finally ready to dump Simmons because of his back. We could flip him if he shows he is healthy.

 

[wizenheimer]

Is Dariq Whitehead any good?
If you really want to go young (Which I am not thrilled with) Clowney, Whitehead, and Simmons for Brogdon and Grant.
I bet they are finally ready to dump Simmons because of his back. We could flip him if he shows he is healthy.

is there anything about Clowney and Whitehead that makes them better than any future picks Portland might get for Grant & Brogdon? Over 30 games into the season and those two have combined for 4 games & 51 minutes. As far as I can tell (haven't looked hard), Clowney hasn't had any serious injury; he's just racking up DNP-CD's. Whitehead is 19 years old and has already had 2 foot surgeries

at this point, I'd rather have picks than either of those guys. But, the Nets seem on a slow train to purgatory, so I'm not seeing them giving up picks for two players like Brogdon and Grant, who won't alter trajectory, much, or move a needle

 

[Pinwheel1]

is there anything about Clowney and Whitehead that makes them better than any future picks Portland might get for Grant & Brogdon? Over 30 games into the season and those two have combined for 4 games & 51 minutes. As far as I can tell (haven't looked hard), Clowney hasn't had any serious injury; he's just racking up DNP-CD's. Whitehead is 19 years old and has already had 2 foot surgeries

at this point, I'd rather have picks than either of those guys. But, the Nets seem on a slow train to purgatory, so I'm not seeing them giving up picks for two players like Brogdon and Grant, who won't alter trajectory, much, or move a needle

To be honest I have no idea why they haven't played. Probably because they are just not ready. (Like most 19 year olds)

I agree Whitehead is a gamble because of his injury (The same injury just didn't heal right), but Clowney (On paper) is someone who seems to be the type of young forward we could use. A long defender who moves well and has a nice 3-point stroke. Also a decent rebounder. My guess is he will be a pretty good NBA player.

Now I know that is not enough for Grant and Brogdan...I was just throwing it out there because I think the Nets would/should consider it. (and because I am bored) And I bet we could get a first and filler for Simmons.

 

[riverman]

Today I read the Spurs are targeting Brogdan and offering McDermott, Devontae Graham and 26 first round pick. I don't know much about Graham but McBuckets would be helpful given our shooting woes. 2026 first round pick is decent....I'd probably ask for 2 firsts given Brogdan's market. Apparently the Spurs were deep into trade talks with Boston for Brogdan when we traded for him.

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Today I read the Spurs are targeting Brogdan and offering McDermott, Devontae Graham and 26 first round pick. I don't know much about Graham but McBuckets would be helpful given our shooting woes. 2026 first round pick is decent....I'd probably ask for 2 firsts given Brogdan's market.

Link?

I'd rather have Bassey included as salary filler over Graham, but it would all depend upon the protections on the pick.

 

[riverman]

Link?

I'd rather have Bassey included as salary filler over Graham, but it would all depend upon the protections on the pick.

It'was a news blip on MSN's homepage....I don't cut and paste many links here but if I read something interesting I'll relay it. Often these are SB nation articles. The title of the article was something about pairing Brogdan with Wembanyama. I posted everything the article said here already in short form.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Link?

I'd rather have Bassey included as salary filler over Graham, but it would all depend upon the protections on the pick.

How many backup centers can we keep?
Not sure what happens with Williams, but between Badji, Brown, and Reath one of them won't be around next year.
Where does Bassey rate with those guys? Didn't he just tear his ACL?

 

[Natebishop3]

Spurs don't really make sense for Brogdon. I get wanting a point guard, but they're also tanking.