Malcolm Brogdon trade ideas

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Whoever is running the youtube channel for the team is dropping the ball. Both Brogdon and Williams did interviews following practice yesterday and they haven't yet been posted.

The Scoot and Chauncey interviews drew so many views the day before and the fanbase appears eager for more content and the team isn't striking on the increased interest.
 
illmatic99 said:
Whoever is running the youtube channel for the team is dropping the ball. Both Brogdon and Williams did interviews following practice yesterday and they haven't yet been posted.

The Scoot and Chauncey interviews drew so many views the day before and the fanbase appears eager for more content and the team isn't striking on the increased interest.
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They’ve been really bad so far. Putting out that welcome message where they misspelled Brogdon’s name.
 
illmatic99 said:
Whoever is running the youtube channel for the team is dropping the ball. Both Brogdon and Williams did interviews following practice yesterday and they haven't yet been posted.

The Scoot and Chauncey interviews drew so many views the day before and the fanbase appears eager for more content and the team isn't striking on the increased interest.
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Their social media team sucks major ass now.
 
HailBlazers said:
Due to the supply shortage I don't see any team trading away a versatile young forward.
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Yeah, that kind of takes Grant out of the equation. If the young player is that good then why swap him for Jerami? It would have to be a contender desperate for a guard at the deadline who lost their guard with an injury and happens to have an abundance of good forwards. Even as I type this it seems like a long shot. Essentially we need to root for the Pelicans to get off to a hot start and then hope CJ gets hurt so they are desperate to trade for Brogdon.

I can't imagine there are too many teams that fit that description. Obviously just trading them for an ending contract and picks would be easier, but for me not as attractive. We also have to consider how players like Camara, Murray, and Rupert are developing.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah, that kind of takes Grant out of the equation. If the young player is that good then why swap him for Jerami? It would have to be a contender desperate for a guard at the deadline who lost their guard with an injury and happens to have an abundance of good forwards. Even as I type this it seems like a long shot. Essentially we need to root for the Pelicans to get off to a hot start and then hope CJ gets hurt so they are desperate to trade for Brogdon.

I can't imagine there are too many teams that fit that description. Obviously just trading them for an ending contract and picks would be easier, but for me not as attractive. We also have to consider how players like Camara, Murray, and Rupert are developing.
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I’m still hoping we could do a three team where Grant goes to Cleveland, Allen goes to another team, and that other team will hopefully have a wing for us.
 
social team is fine. im guessing they all went out to dinner last night and only got the highlight package up. #itsStilltrainingcampforeveryone
 
Pinwheel1 said:
An honest response would have to be something like "Our whole team has sucked on defense, why are you so focused on Ant?"
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My answer to Billups would be because he is the worst defender on the team. And you had two years to fix it.
 
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HailBlazers said:
Due to the supply shortage I don't see any team trading away a versatile young forward.
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well, off the top of my head, over the last couple of seasons:

Mikal Bridges
Cam Johnson
Lauri Markkanen
John Collins
Jared Vanderbilt (twice)
Josh Hart
Jermai Grant
Doug McDermott (might not fit the 'young' label)
Rui Hachimura
Jalen McDaniels

now, if you were excluding forwards moved in block-buster trades, that would cut that list down. And if you were talking about all-star level forwards, the list gets even smaller

but forwards do get moved, and many of them are starting level of decent quality

in my view, Portland hasn't had a quality-level pair of starting forwards since Aldridge/Batum. I'm not talking high-quality; just average quality and I don't think Aminu/Harkless met even that average-quality standard, not if consistency was part of the equation. Considering that the power of the NBA is in those 2-way, 6'6-6'10 wings/forwards, the fact that Portland hasn't had a single one in 8 consecutive seasons is management malpractice
 
Pinwheel1 said:
An honest response would have to be something like "Our whole team has sucked on defense, why are you so focused on Ant?"
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maybe because:

defensive rating:

Greg Brown III 114
Jusuf Nurkić 114
Drew Eubanks 115
Gary Payton II 116
Matisse Thybulle 116
Justise Winslow 118
Josh Hart 118
John Butler 119
Keon Johnson 119
Cam Reddish 119
Trendon Watford 119
Kevin Knox 120
Jabari Walker 120
Nassir Little 120
Jerami Grant 120
Shaedon Sharpe 121
Damian Lillard 121
Anfernee Simons 123

DBPM:

Gary Payton II 1.4
Matisse Thybulle 1.1
Drew Eubanks 0.9
Josh Hart 0.7
Jusuf Nurkić 0.7
Justise Winslow 0.6
Greg Brown III 0.0
Trendon Watford -0.4
John Butler -0.8
Damian Lillard -1.2
Jerami Grant -1.4
Nassir Little -1.4
Cam Reddish -1.4
Keon Johnson -1.6
Shaedon Sharpe -2.0
Jabari Walker -2.1
Anfernee Simons -2.5
Kevin Knox -2.7

it's true, Portland had a bad chain on defense. But Ant was the weakest link on that chain while being 2nd on the team in total minutes. His defensive flaws were noticeable. And all indications are he will be the featured player & #1 option on the Blazers, who would probably like nothing better than for us to watch Ant on offense, and change the channel when he's on defense
 
wizenheimer said:
maybe because:

defensive rating:

Greg Brown III 114
Jusuf Nurkić 114
Drew Eubanks 115
Gary Payton II 116
Matisse Thybulle 116
Justise Winslow 118
Josh Hart 118
John Butler 119
Keon Johnson 119
Cam Reddish 119
Trendon Watford 119
Kevin Knox 120
Jabari Walker 120
Nassir Little 120
Jerami Grant 120
Shaedon Sharpe 121
Damian Lillard 121
Anfernee Simons 123

DBPM:

Gary Payton II 1.4
Matisse Thybulle 1.1
Drew Eubanks 0.9
Josh Hart 0.7
Jusuf Nurkić 0.7
Justise Winslow 0.6
Greg Brown III 0.0
Trendon Watford -0.4
John Butler -0.8
Damian Lillard -1.2
Jerami Grant -1.4
Nassir Little -1.4
Cam Reddish -1.4
Keon Johnson -1.6
Shaedon Sharpe -2.0
Jabari Walker -2.1
Anfernee Simons -2.5
Kevin Knox -2.7

it's true, Portland had a bad chain on defense. But Ant was the weakest link on that chain while being 2nd on the team in total minutes. His defensive flaws were noticeable. And all indications are he will be the featured player & #1 option on the Blazers, who would probably like nothing better than for us to watch Ant on offense, and change the channel when he's on defense
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I just listened to Billups media day presser. When asked what Simons needs to improve on, he didn't even mention defense. That was a surprise.
 
Building a strong bench for the future:

Brogdon for Quentin Grimes
 
I think if the Clippers get off to a fast start and Kawhi and PG can show they can stay relatively healthy, the Clippers will push their chips in and trade for Brogdon.
 
I hope that Brogdon doesn't get a chance to watch video of Billups' media day presser because he said he was happy for Eubanks that he wasn't going to have to play with all these young guys.
 
I wonder if Cronin is going to see if this team can win. If they're a surprise team and doing well at the trade deadline, keep them together. If they are a lotto team, I think you have to look to deal guys like Grant, Brogdon, Thybulle and Simons....
 
beast crnjo said:
I wonder if Cronin is going to see if this team can win. If they're a surprise team and doing well at the trade deadline, keep them together. If they are a lotto team, I think you have to look to deal guys like Grant, Brogdon, Thybulle and Simons....
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Only 4 players from last year, tons of rooks and 1st/2nd yr players, I think we see how things go and evaluate talent/fit etc first several months, perhaps depending on how things go we make a deadline or sooner trade especially if some team thinks Brog or Time is missing link (and they are healthy) and is really willing to pay up. Great thing is there is NO pressure to do anything for a change so we can be very picky.
 
wizenheimer said:
well, off the top of my head, over the last couple of seasons:

Mikal Bridges
Cam Johnson
Lauri Markkanen
John Collins
Jared Vanderbilt (twice)
Josh Hart
Jermai Grant
Doug McDermott (might not fit the 'young' label)
Rui Hachimura
Jalen McDaniels

now, if you were excluding forwards moved in block-buster trades, that would cut that list down. And if you were talking about all-star level forwards, the list gets even smaller

but forwards do get moved, and many of them are starting level of decent quality

in my view, Portland hasn't had a quality-level pair of starting forwards since Aldridge/Batum. I'm not talking high-quality; just average quality and I don't think Aminu/Harkless met even that average-quality standard, not if consistency was part of the equation. Considering that the power of the NBA is in those 2-way, 6'6-6'10 wings/forwards, the fact that Portland hasn't had a single one in 8 consecutive seasons is management malpractice
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Aminu is our most underrated player in the last 10 years. We got back to back 3 seeds with him and never recovered after he was let go.
 
bad luck brian—aminu was broken during his time in orlando.
 
KingSpeed said:
Aminu is our most underrated player in the last 10 years. We got back to back 3 seeds with him and never recovered after he was let go.
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you always are able to draw insane '2+2=4, so 4+4=77' connections

Aminu was a system player in Portland. Was he underrated? Maybe a little, but not by much. He was a below average starting forward. Besides that, I did say "quality-level pair of starting forwards". LMA/Batum were quality level; Aminu/Harkless were not

and of course, it wasn't just Aminu who was dumped; it was Aminu-Harkless-Kanter-Curry-Turner-Meyers-Layman. And Olshey decided it was not only a good idea to dump all those players but to replace them with Whiteside-Bazemore-Melo-Hezonja-Tolliver. That kind of massive downgrade in roster talent, depth, & fit is what Portland didn't recover from, not the 'loss' of Aminu
 
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Wizard Mentor said:
Here's the Ultimate MB trade:

Don't trade Malcolm Brogdan.

He's actually good, and I want to win. I think he can play some 3. We already have an extra draft pick next year.
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Sign him to a team-friendly extension if he's OK with coming off the bench if that's what the coach chooses.
 
This is an Anferee Simons trade idea, and we keep Brogdon. Magic need some scoring/shooting at guard. We take on a crap contract in JI, and give them a serviceable rotation player for Wendell Carter JR.

We then can have a legit 3 man rotation at PF with Ayton/Williams/Carter Jr, and move Grant to SF. We then start Sharpe at SG and let the Scoot/Sharpe era begin for real, with Brogdon backing up both guard spots.

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beast crnjo said:
This is an Anferee Simons trade idea, and we keep Brogdon. Magic need some scoring/shooting at guard. We take on a crap contract in JI, and give them a serviceable rotation player for Wendell Carter JR.

We then can have a legit 3 man rotation at PF with Ayton/Williams/Carter Jr, and move Grant to SF. We then start Sharpe at SG and let the Scoot/Sharpe era begin for real, with Brogdon backing up both guard spots.

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You want those two guys when we now have Ayton and Williams? I don't like that trade at all.
 
beast crnjo said:
This is an Anferee Simons trade idea, and we keep Brogdon. Magic need some scoring/shooting at guard. We take on a crap contract in JI, and give them a serviceable rotation player for Wendell Carter JR.

We then can have a legit 3 man rotation at PF with Ayton/Williams/Carter Jr, and move Grant to SF. We then start Sharpe at SG and let the Scoot/Sharpe era begin for real, with Brogdon backing up both guard spots.

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Yuck. Only way I'm trading Ant is if we get a starting SF or PF. Neither of those guys qualify.
 
beast crnjo said:
I wonder if Cronin is going to see if this team can win. If they're a surprise team and doing well at the trade deadline, keep them together. If they are a lotto team, I think you have to look to deal guys like Grant, Brogdon, Thybulle and Simons....
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I'm wondering the same thing. In the back of my mind, and I know this won't be a popular idea, I wonder if they start Brogdon and Ant in the backcourt with Tisse, Grant and DA. Brogdon is the perfect guy to fit with Ant. Feature Brog, Ant and Grant early and trade near the deadline. It gives Scoot a couple months of coming off the bench before getting the reins.
I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. I wouldn't consider Scoot's experience to be enough to warrant stepping into a starting role right out the gate. Not my personal belief, but I can see it being an option.
 
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