Malcolm Brogdon trade ideas (1 Viewer)

[PtldPlatypus]

it doesn’t make sense to get more than a couple players in a draft class that is supposedly weak.

I hate this logic. The perception of how strong or weak a class as a whole is is irrelevant if you're personnel evaluator is good at His job. I trust Schmitz to direct the FO to quality prospects, regardless of the caliber of their class peers. There are always surprises in every class.

 

[riverman]

Brogdan is really close to Chauncey and I could see him mentoring here for a couple of years and moving onto our coaching staffn if Chauncey keeps the job.

 

[BankTeller]

I hate this logic. The perception of how strong or weak a class as a whole is is irrelevant if you're personnel evaluator is good at His job. I trust Schmitz to direct the FO to quality prospects, regardless of the caliber of their class peers. There are always surprises in every class.

I agree with you, I just posed that as a possibility of reducing payroll, among other possibilities, if ownership made Cronin do it.

 

[Freshtown]

Brogdan is really close to Chauncey and I could see him mentoring here for a couple of years and moving onto our coaching staffn if Chauncey keeps the job.

He’s only 30, he’s not an old vet on his last legs.

 

[riverman]

He’s only 30, he’s not an old vet on his last legs.

He can still play..couple years from now he's 32....Some would call that an older vet as they called Dame before his last birthday. He might play 5 more years..who knows? He seems to like teaching from what I heard in his interview. That usually leads to coaching.

 

[Paine Tablet]

He can still play..couple years from now he's 32....Some would call that an older vet as they called Dame before his last birthday. He might play 5 more years..who knows? He seems to like teaching from what I heard in his interview. That usually leads to coaching.

He will be 32 and not very likely at all to want to enter the coaching realm barring major injury. You are making an implication that there will likely be either a resigning with the Blazers at some point or a gap where Brogdan leaves the Blazers to play with another team(s) until he retires and later comes back to join Chauncey's staff. That's the full implication and I put the odds at a low percentage.

 

[blazerfan11]

Brogdon is a big and skilled guard who doesn't rely on athleticism. He could play until he's 40 if he can stay healthy.

 

[illmatic99]

From Jake Fischer:

Sources said Houston has also eyed veteran guard Malcom Brodgon, who was traded recently to Portland in the Celtics’ acquisition of All-Star Jrue Holiday, although the Trail Blazers and Rockets have not held significant conversations. The Blazers have so far indicated they plan to keep Brogdon as part of their rebuild, and Brogdon himself recently refuted any notion he was looking for an exit from the franchise.

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-porter-jr-trade-begins-week-of-final-roster-moves-210020418.html

 

[Natebishop3]

From Jake Fischer:

Sources said Houston has also eyed veteran guard Malcom Brodgon, who was traded recently to Portland in the Celtics’ acquisition of All-Star Jrue Holiday, although the Trail Blazers and Rockets have not held significant conversations. The Blazers have so far indicated they plan to keep Brogdon as part of their rebuild, and Brogdon himself recently refuted any notion he was looking for an exit from the franchise.

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-porter-jr-trade-begins-week-of-final-roster-moves-210020418.html

I think Chauncey wants to keep him. It might solely be on Brog to ask out.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think Chauncey wants to keep him. It might solely be on Brog to ask out.

I was thinking the same. It's not like we don't need him. Yes, Scoot needs to be given minutes to develop, but what happens if Scoot gets hurt? How do the other players develop without a decent PG?

 

[BigGameDamian]

If we want draft picks why not look to the Knicks? Fournier and the Knicks have plenty of draft picks.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Everything Beagle]

I was thinking the same. It's not like we don't need him. Yes, Scoot needs to be given minutes to develop, but what happens if Scoot gets hurt? How do the other players develop without a decent PG?

Ten minutes with a heady vet on the court with you is worth twenty minutes of having to figure it out yourself

 

[blazerkor]

Ten minutes with a heady vet on the court with you is worth twenty minutes of having to figure it out yourself

Don't you think they've already had that through training camp? If a good deal for Brogdon comes along I hope we take it, instead of worrying about mentoring... especially if that deal involves Brogdon going to Miami and Lowry (the better mentor until the trade deadline) coming back with a pick.

 

[blazerfan11]

Don't you think they've already had that through training camp? If a good deal for Brogdon comes along I hope we take it, instead of worrying about mentoring... especially if that deal involves Brogdon going to Miami and Lowry (the better mentor until the trade deadline) coming back with a pick.

Billups also used to be a veteran basketball player. Who knows if he will be a great coach of a team, but he should be a great mentor to a point guard like Scoot.

 

[blazerkor]

Billups also used to be a veteran basketball player. Who knows if he will be a great coach of a team, but he should be a great mentor to a point guard like Scoot.

I fucking agree, who the fuck cares what Malcolm brings back in the way of mentorship, just trade the dude for the best pieces that contribute to our rebuild.

 

[Everything Beagle]

I fucking agree, who the fuck cares what Malcolm brings back in the way of mentorship, just trade the dude for the best pieces that contribute to our rebuild.

Nah. Billups isn’t suiting up, he isn’t leading by example in game situations. Billups played in an era so unlike this one he might as well have played ice hockey.

Brogdon should stay. The kids will benefit.

 

[blazerkor]

Nah. Billups isn’t suiting up, he isn’t leading by example in game situations. Billups played in an era so unlike this one he might as well have played ice hockey.

Brogdon should stay. The kids will benefit.

OK... but if it's Lowry and a FRP for Brogdon you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[Everything Beagle]

OK... but if it's Lowry and a FRP for Brogdon you don't have a leg to stand on.

I’m not making the decisions of course; they don’t let me do that anymore. But I like what I’ve seen of Brogdon a lot. It’d be up to Scoot, Shae, and Chauncey to decide if Lowry is a better fit as a mentor.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I'm all for the Blazers getting some veterans on the roster to mentor all the young guys we have. It is important, and I don't like how the 6ers process groups lacked that.

But it doesn't have to be starter/6th men level players in Brogdon/TimeLord. It can be 10th, 11th, 12th men in the rotation.

If the Blazers can get good assets for any of Brogdon/TimeLord/etc they should do it. Either do it now, or do it later if you think the return may go up. Those guys can help teams win now and we don't care about winning now. We need to build talent and build assets so we have those means to win now once that day comes. We lacked those assets in the Lillard era and that led to never building a contender. Lets build the foundation now so that mistake is not repeated in the Scoot/Sharpe era.

Either during a Brogdon/Timelord trade or as a subsequent move the Blazers should get a Lowry or Gordon Hayward or whatever veteran on an overpaid contract to come back and provide veteran leadership. Or cut Brown/etc and sign a vet minimum guy for that. There is a need for that role on this years team - but it doesn't specifically have to be Brogdon or Timelord - or Grant or Thybulle, etc.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

From Jake Fischer:

Sources said Houston has also eyed veteran guard Malcom Brodgon, who was traded recently to Portland in the Celtics’ acquisition of All-Star Jrue Holiday, although the Trail Blazers and Rockets have not held significant conversations. The Blazers have so far indicated they plan to keep Brogdon as part of their rebuild, and Brogdon himself recently refuted any notion he was looking for an exit from the franchise.

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-porter-jr-trade-begins-week-of-final-roster-moves-210020418.html

I just don't see how we would do a trade with Houston. Their youth is probably either too talented as well as all makes about $10 million each so would need two of those guys. I don't see us interested in FVV contract. If Dillion Brooks was only on an expiring I'd think in December we'd consider taking him on with a pick. Can't believe they gave him 4 years though - no way Portland is eating that.

Really makes more sense to trade Brogdon to a team with overpaid contracts. Bulls, Clippers, Heat, all make some sense. Maybe Sacramento or OKC if they are playing well.

I guess we may have to see how teams perform at the start of the season - as well as trade restrictions being lifted for so many players in December.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I see why Houston would be interested, but not enough that they would give up anything of value. They have Van Vleet, Amen, Jalen Green, and Dillon Brooks who can play guard. Actually, they are a lot like us in terms of our backcourt.

 

[Samuel]

teams want brogdon at a discount.

joe is comfortable waiting. he’s the waiting GM.

so we move.

 

[wizenheimer]

I'd much rather trade Ant than Brogdon. But if some team is offering a future 1st (that has a decent chance of being in the top half of the draft), + maybe a 2nd, and maybe a prospect, and an expiring contract, for either Brogdon or Ant, the Blazers really have to consider pulling the trigger

I'm not really sure how much value there is in mentoring. But I have a hard time believing there's more value in mentoring than in the Blazers receiving a high value rebuilding package when they are so obviously at the beginning of a rebuild

and like it or not, there's probably some value in a 'stealth-tank' this season. If you go by their career marks in winshares, Brogdon + Ant will be worth 5-7 wins this season. those wins could be the difference between a 2nd pick and a 13th pick

 

[Ha Seung-Boumtje-Boumjte]

I say let him start the year and try to increase his trade value playing 24 MPG. His proficient rebounding is the only way to mitigate the Ant/Thybulle/Grant horrific rebounding in the first unit.

Brogdon/Scoot
Ant/Sharpe
Thybulle/Sharpe/Camara
Grant/Walker
Ayton/Williams

For the first 20 games let Scoot and Sharpe beat up on second units and get Ant more used to playing off the ball. After 20 games (maybe we go 40%), take the training wheels off of Scoot, embrace the losses, and get an asset for Brogdon.

 

[bxb]

I'd be interested to know who Houston would consider off-limits in a Brogdon trade...


I mean obviously Green..

But im the type of guy I feel like Portland might actually make out like bandits if they throew a big package to Houston for Jabari Smith Jr.. But I'd also assume Smith Jr is totally off-limits..

 

[Samuel]

the Blazers really have to consider pulling the trigger

I don't think that market exists rn.

 

[Samuel]

I'd be interested to know who Houston would consider off-limits in a Brogdon trade...

my guess is the offer was tate/dipo (or green) and 2nds. hard no.

 

[bxb]

my guess is the offer was tate/dipo (or green) and 2nds. hard no.

Yeah I think that sounds about right but Houston has Jabari Smith Jr whos really the player I'd be trying for.. (the Thompson twin is worth trading a ton for too IMO but they'd decline)

and possibly even more realistic would be Tari Eason.. whos a really good defender..


I'd actually be down to do some drastic trades with future 1st rd picks but I'm guessing Houston wants nothing to do with trading Smith Jr

SF - Grant
PF - Smith Jr
C - Ayton

is vastly superior to whatever the Blazers are about to roll out , and Smith Jr is still so young it could warrant an 'overpay' n still work out in Portlands favor imo..

I do wonder about Tari Eason though.. But I think he's pretty good n would probably fit right in off the bench for the Blazers. 2.4 offensive rebounds in 21.5mpg(82 games played) as a rookie for eason too. I watched him at LSU he was such an impact player, big fan of his.

 

[Samuel]

Yeah I think that sounds about right but Houston has Jabari Smith Jr whos really the player I'd be trying for..

I don't think they're putting any of their young players in play. Not any of them. And I don't think they'd be interested in our first round picks.