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DaLincolnJones said:
Youu keep saying that, but as far as I know, once the charges have been dealt with, he can not be charged for the same again. The only exception would be if there was a civil suite like for personal loss.
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...nope.

"Furthermore, if that conduct was a federal offense, you may be tried and convicted in both a state and federal court. This is known as the "dual sovereignty doctrine," and it is an exception to the "Double Jeopardy Clause" of the U.S. Constitution."


...but hey, thanx for "keeping us informed".
 
yankeesince59 said:
...anything other than your usual pig latin....see, I can be condescending too.

...I asked a simple question...if you don't want to answer it, fine
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Okay, sorry, I thought if read in context , that it was fairly plain.

I will break it down for you.

If the verdict(s) reached, are not what most in here expect. That being guilty with a life term, most will be very unhappy. At that point I would expect to see people blaming the judge or finding some other way to express themselves in the negative.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...nope.

"Furthermore, if that conduct was a federal offense, you may be tried and convicted in both a state and federal court. This is known as the "dual sovereignty doctrine," and it is an exception to the "Double Jeopardy Clause" of the U.S. Constitution."


...but hey, thanx for "keeping us informed".
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Thank you for the information. I was not aware
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Okay, sorry, I thought if read in context , that it was fairly plain.

I will break it down for you.

If the verdict(s) reached, are not what most in here expect. That being guilty with a life term, most will be very unhappy. At that point I would expect to see people blaming the judge or finding some other way to express themselves in the negative.
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It's a rigged witch hunt! Totally corrupt deep state!

Sorta like that, you mean?

barfo
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Okay, sorry, I thought if read in context , that it was fairly plain.

I will break it down for you.

If the verdict(s) reached, are not what most in here expect. That being guilty with a life term, most will be very unhappy. At that point I would expect to see people blaming the judge or finding some other way to express themselves in the negative.
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...ummm no, it was not "fairly plain"...it was instead fairly vague since you declined to cite who you were referring to...you could just as easily been talking about the people in this thread that are hoping for Manafort to go free.

...if you had instead been crystal clear as you finally were above, I would not have asked.



...did I "break it down" well enough for you?
 
yankeesince59 said:
...ummm no, it was not "fairly plain"...it was instead fairly vague since you declined to cite who you were referring to...you could just as easily been talking about the people in this thread that are hoping for Manafort to go free.

...if you had instead been crystal clear as you finally were above, I would not have asked.



...did I "break it down" well enough for you?
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yep
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Have to say, this is interesting. He is either going to have a very good day or a very bad one.
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Turns out to be a very bad one. He gets to spend the rest of his nights in jail.

He still has another trial to go and it looks like that one will probably result in even worse punishment for Manifort.

Not looking good for Manifort.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
I understand that this would be your preference, but the possibility is open. You do realize that the gov is perusing charges that they had the information on for the past ten years, and decided not to prosecute at that time
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The time was four years. That's when they FBI first interviewed Manifort.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
I know for fact that it only takes one guy to sway a jury. Most are in the middle and have never served on a jury. Make a strong argument on how A) You do not like the defendant. B) How it will effect the defendant for the rest of his life C) Get the jury involved in the "Why" of the over kill on the case and how these were the same charges from ten years ago that the gov dropped or what ever relevant angle is available.
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So, there's never a credible conviction of anyone? Are you saying we need to replace our legal system?
 
Lanny said:
So, there's never a credible conviction of anyone? Are you saying we need to replace our legal system?
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Not at all, my friend. As I stated elsewhere, I do not mind playing Devils advocate. Opening up counter arguments or possibilities .

As to the example I gave about one person being able to sway a jury, that was serious. I lived it. I think our jury system is the only true ability to protect our selves from over zealous prosecution.
 
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