Matisse Thybulle Signs Full-MLE Offer with Mavericks / Blazers match

[B-Roy]

I'm not matching this...

 

[B-Roy]

 

[riverman]

Don't want any player on the roster who wants to be somewhere else. I like Thybulle but his minutes can go to Rupert now.

 

[Labinot41]

Yeah let him walk, i even forgot he was on the Blazers

 

[TheGoldRanger]

Don't want any player on the roster who wants to be somewhere else. I like Thybulle but his minutes can go to Rupert now.

I think Rupert will be better anyways.

 

[maxiep]

Good for him. I hope we don't match.

 

[andalusian]

Yeah, if Dame stayed, you match it. Now? Not so much. Good luck to Matisse.

 

[illmatic99]

Non tax payer MLE is nothing. You should match this.

A good rotational player for 10 mil starting is a bargain. He also is a good culture guy to have on the team.

 

[TheGoldRanger]

I think Portland matches. It’s a reasonable contract that can be included in a trade later if need be and he would be a nice vet to tutor Rupert, Shaedon, and Kris. Just stick him on Shaedon during practice and training camp and that can help Shaedon elevate his game.

 

[illmatic99]

Good for him. I hope we don't match.

its like a 3yrs, 35 mil. Or maybe 4 yrs 45.

That is an absolute bargain with the new cap figures coming over the next few seasons.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Non tax payer MLE is nothing. You should match this.

A good rotational player for less than 10 mil is a bargain. He also is a good culture guy to have on the team.

It's 12 million starting for 4 year so ~55 million.

Not sure he will get the full amount, but it's certainly a lot more than "nothing"

Not even certain he's an every game backup. Might be third string some games. That's a lot to pay for a guy who isn't a clear rotational piece.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Let him go. Another sunken cost. Two second rounders gone.

 

[RR7]

We need tradeable contracts. We need elite defenders. Match please.

 

[illmatic99]

It's 12 million starting for 4 year so ~55 million.

Not sure he will get the full amount, but it's certainly a lot more than "nothing"

Its less than 10% of the cap. Bargain for a defender who showed he has an improving 3pt shot and is still 26 yrs old.

 

[andalusian]

Non tax payer MLE is nothing. You should match this.

A good rotational player for 10 mil starting is a bargain. He also is a good culture guy to have on the team.

I thought the MLE was going up 30% with the new CBA, but apparently it is for the TPMLE, the non-tax MLE is only going up 7.5% - in this case, it probably makes sense to match it.

 

[RR7]

Also, where does it say full mle?

 

[blazerkor]

Non tax payer MLE is nothing. You should match this.

A good rotational player for 10 mil starting is a bargain. He also is a good culture guy to have on the team.

It starts at 12.4 this season... and then there will be salary increases on a three or four year deal.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/early-mid-level-bi-annual-projections-for-2023-24.html

 

[Duckhook]

They're going to spend up to $12.4mil on Matisse? Good for him, bad for the Mavs.

 

[illmatic99]

We need tradeable contracts. We need elite defenders. Match please.

Another great point. I think this is a nobrainer. Surprised at the immediate reaction here to simply let talent walk

 

[TBpup]

Non tax payer MLE is nothing. You should match this.

A good rotational player for 10 mil starting is a bargain. He also is a good culture guy to have on the team.

The non-taxpayer MLE was projected to be $12,400,000 for the first year. Is that still worth having going forward? If he continues to make '3's at the level he did when he came here, I would say yes. Contracts in that range are great future trade pieces. But with Dame requesting out, I'm not sure they will want to spend that kind of money on him when they may thing they have something similar in RR for much less expensive.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Can a sign and trade work?

 

[illmatic99]

It starts at 12.4 this season... and then there will be salary increases on a three or four year deal.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/08/early-mid-level-bi-annual-projections-for-2023-24.html

The cap will be:
136 mil
142 mil
149 mil
156 mil

Over the next four seasons. At less than 10% of that each year, even at 4 yrs 55, this is such a slam dunk match for me. We are in no place to let talent walk.

 

[blazerkor]

For me it really depends on the years that we're talking about. If it's three years or more then I don't really love it. At the same time we do get a 12.4M contract that we can trade. We keep our MLE options open so we could add another player or two with that money. I'm torn because we need good contracts to trade and I think Matisse is worth around this much to a lot of contending teams. At the same time I just don't know what we're getting back for Dame and if I want Matisse taking enough PT from our young guys to keep his value high enough to make matching pay off.

Tough call.

 

[Stevenson]

Don't want any player on the roster who wants to be somewhere else. I like Thybulle but his minutes can go to Rupert now.

Ah, but what if he just has a good agent, getting another offer, so as to get the most for his client and it has as zero to do with where he wants to play? A negotiating ploy.

 

[Natebishop3]

The dude has value. He’s an asset. We need assets. He’s also not 19 and we need a few vets. Match.

 

[RonBrewer]

Is he going to help us get into the playoffs? If not, let him walk

 

[julius]

10-12 for him is a bargain.

 

[Blazinaway]

Pulled this off realgn board FWIW"

"Dallas board is saying they can only offer $36 million/4 for they don't have all of their full MLE."

 

[noknobs]

I'd match, so we probably won't.

 

[illmatic99]

Ah, but what if he just has a good agent, getting another offer, so as to get the most for his client and it has as zero to do with where he wants to play? A negotiating ploy.

His agent is also Dame's agent.