Notice Meet me at El Gaucho on Broadway and Harvey Milk

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Thoughts?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

who was stark named after? he was probably gay too

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I don't know much about him, other than he was a San Francisco icon. Should have made it Darcelle X Blvd

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

who was stark named after? he was probably gay too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Stark

In 1845, he sailed to what became Portland, Oregon, as the supercargo (cargo supervisor) of the Toulon,[2] bringing goods for Francis Pettygrove's warehouse.[3]

In 1846,[3] he purchased half of Asa Lovejoy's 640 acres (2.6 km2) making up the original claim to the future city for $390 in cash.[3][4] Stark bought the land for speculation rather than as a home or commercial property, and so he continued sailing as a merchant and visited the claim only occasionally.[3][5] Despite often being absent on business, Stark was a civic leader in early Portland. For example, he led the city Freemasons, membership in which was a status symbol at the time.[6]

In 1848, he sailed to San Francisco to take part in the California Gold Rush and was a merchant there from 1849 to 1850.[1][2] Around the time Stark left San Francisco in 1850 to set up shop in Portland,[1] he discovered his claim was disputed.

At a meeting in San Francisco with Daniel H. Lownsdale, Stark reached a settlement with the other stakeholders which gave Stark sole title to a triangular section in what is now downtown Portland between the Willamette River, Stark Street, and Ankeny Street.[7] In return for giving up the rest of the claim, Lownsdale, Coffin, and Chapman paid Stark for land they had already sold on his acreage, which was roughly 48 acres (190,000 m2) and included most of what was then downtown. Later, another dispute between the parties arose after Stark refused to part with two narrow blocks needed to connect the park blocks.[6]

 

[Lanny]

Thoughts?

Been to El Gaucho twice and my wife and I got terrible steaks both times. Service and side dishes were very good. Good ambiance.

Before I met my wife, I once went into a bar called something like Flight 94 or something like that. We had to go past a cafe and into a place in the back. My buddy and I went back there, me first. The first thing I saw was a bunch of guys dancing with each other. Then, I noticed all the tables had nothing but guys sitting there. I said "Mike, this doesn't look right. All I sss is guys." Mike says "Its dark in here and your eyes are playing tricks on you." Of course, we were looking for chicks not guys. We sat down and before we could order drinks Mike says "Uh oh, I think we'd better go." We got outta there fast. Haven't been back since and that was almost 50 years ago. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Been to El Gaucho twice and my wife and I got terrible steaks both times. Service and side dishes were very good. Good ambiance.

Should have gone to the A-Crop.

 

[Lanny]

Should have gone to the A-Crop.

The owner's son was once my Blazer ticket partner for two years.

Edit: Acropolis

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What was that little diner on Stark back in the day, it was open late night and I remember a lot of drag queens and club kids would go there since there was really nothing else open.

EDIT:

https://www.theroxydiner.com/

 

[Lanny]

What was that little diner on Stark back in the day, it was open late night and I remember a lot of drag queens and club kids would go there since there was really nothing else open.

EDIT:

https://www.theroxydiner.com/

Never ate there. Just past through it to get to the night club. Looked like a greasy spoon to me.

Went to Darcelle XV once with my wife. She ordered a red wine which arrived right when the lights went out and the waitress spilled it all over her new white dress. That was the end of that dress. Also went to a drag show in San Francisco which was well done but I prefer to see women perform as does my wife. My wife enjoys show girls dancing around some man who has center stage. We're both pretty old fashioned.

 

[-Ace-]

What was that little diner on Stark back in the day, it was open late night and I remember a lot of drag queens and club kids would go there since there was really nothing else open.

EDIT:

https://www.theroxydiner.com/

That was one of my favorite places downtown and a hangout during my early 20s....three or four times a week with friends, late night/early morning pancakes or chili cheese fries, reading the National Enquirer wallpaper in the bathroom, and jukebox tunes.

 

[Chris Craig]

I care about the same as I did when they renamed 39th Ave Cesar Chavez, not at all.

 

[The Professional Fan]

I believe that area used to be (maybe still is?) called "Vaseline Alley"

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Never ate there. Just past through it to get to the night club. Looked like a greasy spoon to me.

Went to Darcelle XV once with my wife. She ordered a red wine which arrived right when the lights went out and the waitress spilled it all over her new white dress. That was the end of that dress. Also went to a drag show in San Francisco which was well done but I prefer to see women perform as does my wife. My wife enjoys show girls dancing around some man who has center stage. We're both pretty old fashioned.

Darcelle's is awesome. A true Portland institution.

 

[HailBlazers]

I believe that area used to be (maybe still is?) called "Vaseline Alley"

True Portlander right there Lol.

I worked at the Living Room Theaters on the corner 10th/Stark when it first opened in 2006-7. Was the Panarama night club before that (one of the biggest in town).

Rumor has it had hidden S&M dens, showers and secret passageways. @EL PRESIDENTE's kind of place.

 

[MARIS61]

The equivalent of renaming the city of Astoria, OR to Bloombergia, OR.

Stark was an important part of Portland, OR history.

Milk was an important part of San Francisco, CA history.

In the meantime, Mayor Wheeler, the city of Portland is a major shithole under your watch.

 

[Lanny]

I care about the same as I did when they renamed 39th Ave Cesar Chavez, not at all.

I've always thought when a new name needs to be added for a location the location ought to be a new one. For example, JFK hight school ought to be a new high school whereas I would never rename Cleveland High School to JFK High School.

 

[Lanny]

I believe that area used to be (maybe still is?) called "Vaseline Alley"

I've never heard that before.

 

[Chris Craig]

I've always thought when a new name needs to be added for a location the location ought to be a new one. For example, JFK hight school ought to be a new high school whereas I would never rename Cleveland High School to JFK High School.

I get that. I think streets are different. I fine as long as they don't start naming streets in Portland after Trump.

 

[Hoopguru]

The equivalent of renaming the city of Astoria, OR to Bloombergia, OR.

Stark was an important part of Portland, OR history.

Milk was an important part of San Francisco, CA history.

In the meantime, Mayor Wheeler, the city of Portland is a major shithole under your watch.

I believe Stark & Pettyygrove were the first two owners of the land that is now Portland.
I know it was purchased for $50K, according to "Early Portland a Stump Town Triumphant"

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

It's only a 13 block stretch of SW Stark downtown that is being renamed Harvey Milk St.

Caesar Chavez/39th was weird for me because I've lived on 39th in three different locations as a kid, and have lived 10-15 blocks away from that street most of my life. If I'm talking to someone who transplanted here I'll call it Caesar Chavez, but if it's family or an old friend I say 39th.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

It's only a 13 block stretch of SW Stark downtown that is being renamed Harvey Milk St.

Caesar Chavez/39th was weird for me because I've lived on 39th in three different locations as a kid, and have lived 10-15 blocks away from that street most of my life. If I'm talking to someone who transplanted here I'll call it Caesar Chavez, but if it's family or an old friend I say 39th.

Ditto. I grew up in that general ‘hood also. In grade school, we did safety patrol at the crosswalk at 39th and Brooklyn. It was as dangerous in the mid 60’s as it is now. They can change the name of that street as many times as they like, it will always be “f*****g 39th” to me......

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Ditto. I grew up in that general ‘hood also. In grade school, we did safety patrol at the crosswalk at 39th and Brooklyn. It was as dangerous in the mid 60’s as it is now. They can change the name of that street as many times as they like, it will always be “f*****g 39th” to me......

My grandfather's house was on 29th and Brooklyn. We would go to the Lutheran church on 39th and Brooklyn on Christmas and Easter. I used to shoot hoops in their parking lot.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

It's only a 13 block stretch of SW Stark downtown that is being renamed Harvey Milk St.

Its just weird there isn't a Stark Street in Downtown. Kind of like Naito Parkway, how it was always Front Ave or whatever (UP NAITO FX BRO!)

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

And we should really have more Portland Icons, it would make the streets more unique to Oregon (Bud Clark, Ramblin Rod, Jim Spagg, etc)

 

[Hoopguru]

And we should really have more Portland Icons, it would make the streets more unique to Oregon (Bud Clark, Ramblin Rod, Jim Spagg, etc)

If they ever put Neil Goldschmidt's name on any building and avenue, this town has lost it.

 

[HailBlazers]

And we should really have more Portland Icons, it would make the streets more unique to Oregon (Bud Clark, Ramblin Rod, Jim Spagg, etc)

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[Lanny]

If they ever put Neil Goldschmidt's name on any building and avenue, this town has lost it.

Whatever else he was, he was a good mayor.