Melo wants to stay.

[tlongII]

I appreciate the fact he doesn't hate it here, but I can't envision him staying. There will be a bigger market that will come calling, or a real chance at a ring (rather than an outside chance of one). We're a backwater. Unless we were predicted to be one of the top 2-3 teams to compete for a title next year, he's headed for greener pastures.

I don't know. I firmly believe that if we have everybody healthy we have as good a chance as anyone to win the title.

 

[Labinot41]

I hope Portland doesn't want the same

 

[Labinot41]

Melo and CJ together on the same Team is is more than I can take

 

[HailBlazers]

Vet min

 

[TBpup]

He may want to stay....but why would we want him to stay? As much as CJ being #8 in eFG% (he recently passed up Biggie to move up from #9....Yay!) is killing this team from an efficiency standpoint, Carmello is at #15.....BEHIND Little, Hoard and Gabriel.

Let that sink in.....

 

[julius]

Maybe he's shown another team he's worth taking a flyer on. But in reality, he's done.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Didn't his agent recently take a FO job with the Knicks? (or am I hallucinating again?)

 

[James lamphear]

To take back Melo he needs to agree come off the bench and vet min about as much he deserves. Now if they gave Zach that amount shots in a game he probably would average as much as Melo. But they won't do that for Zach.

 

[Scalma]

Melo still has his uses. Playing 30+ minutes every night isn’t one of them. Bring him back and have him come off the bench.

 

[Minstrel]

If he's roughly a league minimum player, sure, he'd be cool to have as a bench player. But at this point in his career, he's not particularly good at anything. Even his scoring is low efficiency.

I don't know how enthused he'd be about being a low-salaried bench player, though.

 

[tlongII]

If he's roughly a league minimum player, sure, he'd be cool to have as a bench player. But at this point in his career, he's not particularly good at anything. Even his scoring is low efficiency.

I don't know how enthused he'd be about being a low-salaried bench player, though.

The minimum salary for a player with 10 or more years of experience next year is $2,725,961. That's more than he could make doing anything else in my opinion.

 

[illmatic99]

Melo still has his uses. Playing 30+ minutes every night isn’t one of them. Bring him back and have him come off the bench.

Let him get the Noah Vonleh token starter role. 10 mins per half, give him some post ups, and chances to chuck to keep him engaged. I think he'd be useful in that role.

He just looks completely worn out right now. I don't think he's really this bad of a shooter, especially given how open he is.

 

[SIeepwalker]

Let him get the Noah Vonleh token starter role. 10 mins per half, give him some post ups, and chances to chuck to keep him engaged. I think he'd be useful in that role.

He just looks completely worn out right now. I don't think he's really this bad of a shooter, especially given how open he is.

But he would be more valuable as a go to guy of the bench

 

[Wade Garrett]

Let him get the Noah Vonleh token starter role. 10 mins per half, give him some post ups, and chances to chuck to keep him engaged. I think he'd be useful in that role.

He just looks completely worn out right now. I don't think he's really this bad of a shooter, especially given how open he is.

I like this.
Unlike Noah, Carmelo can provide scoring, and the occasional 10+ rebound game.
If Melo is groovin, keep him in.
Personally, I think he's tired. He is not this bad of a shooter.
Let's see what he looks like after the break.
I'm betting his shot comes back.
Remember, dude didn't play for a year.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

He may want to stay....but why would we want him to stay? As much as CJ being #8 in eFG% (he recently passed up Biggie to move up from #9....Yay!) is killing this team from an efficiency standpoint, Carmello is at #15.....BEHIND Little, Hoard and Gabriel.

Let that sink in.....

What's there to sink in? Those guys hardly play. Way too small of a sample size.

 

[PCmor7]

If Melo is willing to come off the bench next year, he has value to this team, and, quite honestly, it benefits him. Truthfully, there's not a lot of downside in him playing around 20 minutes per game as part of the second unit; it's probably physically what is appropriate for him over the long haul, too.

 

[bobf]

I like this.
Unlike Noah, Carmelo can provide scoring, and the occasional 10+ rebound game.
If Melo is groovin, keep him in.
Personally, I think he's tired. He is not this bad of a shooter.
Let's see what he looks like after the break.
I'm betting his shot comes back.
Remember, dude didn't play for a year.

Melo has been this bad for the past 4,100 shots he’s taken. He shot over his head from 3 for most of the season and is coming back down to earth lately, so his TS% is probably headed south of 0.500.

 

[Minstrel]

What's there to sink in? Those guys hardly play. Way too small of a sample size.

What does that even mean? The point of the post is how low Anthony's scoring efficiency is...and the sample size on him is plenty large enough to know he's still an inefficient scorer--just like he was the last couple of years.

Sure, maybe Little's scoring efficiency will get better with a larger sample size. There's still hope--for Little.

 

[blazerfan11]

What use does Carmelo Anthony have? His defense on the perimeter stinks and his scoring efficiency stinks too.
He plays well sometimes. He plays horribly sometimes. He LOOKS better than he is because he can do some things inconsistently that other players can't do at all.
I don't know why a team wanting to win a championship would spend any time thinking how to use him. They should be thinking how to replace him with someone better.

 

[HailBlazers]

What use does Carmelo Anthony have?

A post up scoring threat off the bench.

 

[blazerfan11]

A post up scoring threat off the bench.

This is what makes me sad as a Blazer fan.
What level of threat?
A great threat ?
A good threat ?
A mediocre threat?
less that average threat?


What player in the NBA does Melo's threat level compare to?

 

[GDiama]

He is inefficient and bad defender. I don't see the reason to keep him. And i m not sure he will be ok with a 20 mins role.

 

[lawai'a]

hard to teach an old dog new tricks. perhaps i m wrong here, but, it sounds as if melo should maybe embrace the analytics side to improve shot selection. also sounds as if cj should realize he needs to pay closer attention to the available data that shows his strengths and weaknesses that many posters on here readily access in the ongoing cj saga.
this is taken from an article by quick in the athletic:

McCollum was asked about his approach to the All-Star break and the homestretch that follows.

“I always take a break, recharge, refresh and get ready for the playoff push,” McCollum said. “I’ll give my body a break. It’s been a long year, lot of nagging injuries. I’m coming off an ankle sprain and we’ve been shorthanded, so I haven’t really been able to rest. But the last couple years, I shoot like 42 to 45 percent from 3 after the break.”

In the stall next to him, Carmelo Anthony was dressing.

“You know that,” Anthony said, whipping his head around.

“Yeah,” McCollum said.

“You know those stats?” Anthony asked incredulously.

“Yeah,” McCollum said. “I know what I need to do to get my body ready for the long haul …”

“But, you know what you’re shooting?” Anthony said.

“Yeah.”

“Wow,” Anthony said, shaking his head.

“You gotta talk to the analytics …” McCollum retorted.

“I don’t want to know.”

“Well,” McCollum said, “when you do know, that means you are doing something right.”

“I don’t want to know,” Anthony said chuckling.

McCollum was mostly right: In every season but one since he has been a rotation player, he has markedly improved his 3-point shooting after the All-Star break.



Still On CJ

When asked how he viewed his season, he basically gave himself an incomplete.

Is likely just Melo's reaction to a particularly bad shooting night but i found a double entendre in his quotes that could be applied. (green font)
could substitute "i don't want to change" for the "i don't want to know" quotes, lol

 

[James lamphear]

Zach going come back sometime and he probably going come off the bench starting out. But eventually he going take that starting position. Do Melo going to have to accept coming off the bench or not and if that the case then you try to resign him back. If I was the coach sometime this if Zach I would look at before the season ends.

 

[wizenheimer]

A post up scoring threat off the bench.

I know a lot of people hate when I post some numbers, but I'd say this situation calls for it:

* 29.5% of Melo's offense comes from post-up. He ranks in the 55th percentile, so about 45% of NBA players who are credited with post-ups are better than Melo. Portland only has 4 players who post-up according to the numbers: Hassan, Skal, Merlo, and Hood

* Melo scores 0.92 points/post-up. As a team, the Blazers score 1.24 points/shot. So then, every time Melo posts-up, he will score on average 0.32 less points than Portland's generic FGA.

* taking that further, Melo averages 4.1 post-ups a game, meaning Portland is losing 1.3 points a game from Melo's postups compared to their average. The perspective on that is Portland's margin of victory right now is -1.9. Replace Melo's post-ups with a generic play and Portland scores 1.3 more points a game

* more perspective: here are some of the players better than Melo at post-up: Bojan Bogdanovic (1.11 ppp), Rhonda Hollis-Jefferson (1.00), Demar Defrozan (1.05), Devin Booker (0.95), Danilo Gallanari (1.07), Miles Bridges (1.21), Larry Nance Jr. (1.16), Marvin Williams (1.11), John Collins (1.09, Luka Doncic (1.08), Jabari Parker (1.06), Harrison Barnes (1.02), Mo Harkless (1.00)

I think the age of the three-point shot has reduced the impact of post-up offense. Only 37 players average 1.00 points or more on post-ups and 13 of those post-up less than 5% of their possessions. I'm not going to calculate what each team averages on points/shot but Portland averages 1.24 and they are only 17th in TS% so I'd imagine they are about average in points/shot

A really good post-up big man may collapse a defense enough to open up perimeter shooting opportunities, providing that big is good at moving the ball inside>outside. Many aren't

Maybe the best impact of a post-up would be drawing fouls, but Melo's FT rate is only .187, about half that of Dame and less that Bazemore or Swanigan

Obviously, all those numbers wouldn't flow smoothly in an either/or manner, but if Portland brings back Melo because of post-up offense they are doing something stupid

 

[lawai'a]

I know a lot of people hate when I post some numbers, but I'd say this situation calls for it:

* 29.5% of Melo's offense comes from post-up. He ranks in the 55th percentile, so about 45% of NBA players who are credited with post-ups are better than Melo. Portland only has 4 players who post-up according to the numbers: Hassan, Skal, Merlo, and Hood

* Melo scores 0.92 points/post-up. As a team, the Blazers score 1.24 points/shot. So then, every time Melo posts-up, he will score on average 0.32 less points than Portland's generic FGA.

* taking that further, Melo averages 4.1 post-ups a game, meaning Portland is losing 1.3 points a game from Melo's postups compared to their average. The perspective on that is Portland's margin of victory right now is -1.9. Replace Melo's post-ups with a generic play and Portland scores 1.3 more points a game

* more perspective: here are some of the players better than Melo at post-up: Bojan Bogdanovic (1.11 ppp), Rhonda Hollis-Jefferson (1.00), Demar Defrozan (1.05), Devin Booker (0.95), Danilo Gallanari (1.07), Miles Bridges (1.21), Larry Nance Jr. (1.16), Marvin Williams (1.11), John Collins (1.09, Luka Doncic (1.08), Jabari Parker (1.06), Harrison Barnes (1.02), Mo Harkless (1.00)

I think the age of the three-point shot has reduced the impact of post-up offense. Only 37 players average 1.00 points or more on post-ups and 13 of those post-up less than 5% of their possessions. I'm not going to calculate what each team averages on points/shot but Portland averages 1.24 and they are only 17th in TS% so I'd imagine they are about average in points/shot

A really good post-up big man may collapse a defense enough to open up perimeter shooting opportunities, providing that big is good at moving the ball inside>outside. Many aren't

Maybe the best impact of a post-up would be drawing fouls, but Melo's FT rate is only .187, about half that of Dame and less that Bazemore or Swanigan

Obviously, all those numbers wouldn't flow smoothly in an either/or manner, but if Portland brings back Melo because of post-up offense they are doing something stupid

IMO if someone on the second unit is going to post up, that someone aught to be GTjr. Just an eye test though, no stats to back it up. Melo's inability to consistently defend would seem to further
his being a net negative. young whiteside can clean up some of the mess but the gravity during the continuation of flow leaves others drawn to and out of position to defend, especially considering how poorly the team performs at the three point line anyway. hope he comes back well rested from the break, otherwise his recent performance should be a call for drastic reduction in minutes this year and a hard pass on bringing back for any role outside of mentor/cheerleader next season.

 

[Labinot41]

Zach going come back sometime and he probably going come off the bench starting out. But eventually he going take that starting position. Do Melo going to have to accept coming off the bench or not and if that the case then you try to resign him back. If I was the coach sometime this if Zach I would look at before the season ends.

I doubt Zach is coming back this year

 

[Propagandist]

This is what makes me sad as a Blazer fan.
What level of threat?
A great threat ?
A good threat ?
A mediocre threat?
less that average threat?


What player in the NBA does Melo's threat level compare to?

What level of threat? Threat Level Pinwheel.
A great threat ? Yes.
A good threat ? Yes.
A mediocre threat? Yes, sometimes.
less that average threat? Yes, sometimes.


What player in the NBA does Melo's threat level compare to? See previous seasons of Carmelo Anthony.

 

[Propagandist]

...according to the numbers: Hassan, Skal, Merlo, and Hood

Here's to Melo aging like a fine wine... Cheers!

 

[James lamphear]

I doubt Zach is coming back this year

I think he more likely to come back then Nurk.