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[Denny Crane]

Not sure about your issue with a Plumlee/Rolo pairing. Rolo has a solid mid-range jumper, and Plumlee could continue his role as the high-post distributing center cutting to the hoop for lobs. I think they complement each other quite well.

I wouldn't quibble over Aminu/Harkless, except to say that Aminu is the superior defender, so I'd generally prefer to start games with him on the floor. Either way would work for me though.

In about 9 days, the same deal proposed above could be done with Crabbe instead of Turner, and I'd probably prefer that, simply because I think Turner can do more things overall than AC can.

The Bulls have DWade at SG. I do think they're happy with him.

If they're giving up Butler, I think they want a guy who can start at SF for him.

Otherwise they're stuck playing McBuckets or Mirotic at SF.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The Bulls have DWade at SG. I do think they're happy with him.

If they're giving up Butler, I think they want a guy who can start at SF for him.

Otherwise they're stuck playing McBuckets or Mirotic at SF.

I take it you're suggesting that Crabbe can't play the 3? Hmmm...not sure if I agree.

Either way, it doesn't matter because there's no way a deal like this happens.

 

[Denny Crane]

I take it you're suggesting that Crabbe can't play the 3? Hmmm...not sure if I agree.

Either way, it doesn't matter because there's no way a deal like this happens.

The Bulls likely consider him a SG, whether he can play SF or not. They might actually feel the same way about ET.

EDIT: Crabbe is listed 6'6"/210 lbs, ET 6'7"/220lbs

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I'd gladly trade Ed OR Meyers OR Aminu for Millsap. But not in combination. So basically, there's no reason for us to even submit an offer IMO.

You wouldn't trade Ed and Myers? To me that is like trading nothing, a small plus in Ed and a big minus in Leonard.

 

[Denny Crane]

You think anyone would dispute that?


I wouldn't even want Rondo to return to prior form. I'd want him as CJ's backup.

CJ/Butler/Aminu/Plumlee/Rolo
Rondo/Crabbe/Harkless/Davis/Leonard

That's a contender. This year.

No chance either side proposes that, and I don't think Chicago would be interested if Portland did, but I thought the idea seemed intriguing.

FWIW, I think the Bulls would want Plums over Vonleh in this scenario. They're giving up their starting C.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I'd trade clevelands pick for him, even if there's a possibility he'll leave after the season. I would even offer him the max, or something close to it. Yes it's overpaying, but no one wants to come to Portland, until they actually come to Portland. Maybe he'll like playing with Dame and CJ. We'll have to overpay to keep him, but I say why not. Millsap is good enough to be worth the risk.

I'd sure be tempted if we couldn't get a guy like Ibaka. I just don't understand why Atlanta is trading Milsap. He actually has a year and a half left on his contract. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/paul-millsap-2754/
Considering that, I can only think they want a really lot for him; otherwise why trade him?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

FWIW, I think the Bulls would want Plums over Vonleh in this scenario. They're giving up their starting C.

Sure they would. I'm sure they'd want Harkless over Turner too. Personally, I'd have to think long and hard about including Plumlee in that impossible hypothetical deal, unless I were making a separate deal for Millsap (which would be amazing, BTW).



How many picks would this require...?

Answer, more than we could possibly include. Dare to dream though.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I'd sure be tempted if we couldn't get a guy like Ibaka. I just don't understand why Atlanta is trading Milsap. He actually has a year and a half left on his contract. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/paul-millsap-2754/
Considering that, I can only think they want a really lot for him; otherwise why trade him?

Player option. He is going to opt out of his contract this summer.

 

[Denny Crane]

Sure they would. I'm sure they'd want Harkless over Turner too. Personally, I'd have to think long and hard about including Plumlee in that impossible hypothetical deal, unless I were making a separate deal for Millsap (which would be amazing, BTW).

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How many picks would this require...?

Answer, more than we could possibly include. Dare to dream though.

Rough guesstimate is your deal puts us slightly into the LT. By ~$300K.

 

[chzbrgr]

Sure they would. I'm sure they'd want Harkless over Turner too. Personally, I'd have to think long and hard about including Plumlee in that impossible hypothetical deal, unless I were making a separate deal for Millsap (which would be amazing, BTW).

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How many picks would this require...?

Answer, more than we could possibly include. Dare to dream though.

I think you managed to put the entire team in this trade

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Rough guesstimate is your deal puts us slightly into the LT. By ~$300K.

Small price to pay if true, but I think the in and out from the Blazers end are actually almost identical.

I think you managed to remake the entire team in this trade

FTFY

 

[Denny Crane]

Small price to pay if true, but I think the in and out from the Blazers end are actually almost identical.


FTFY

Blazers out ~$64.1M, in ~$64.8M. We're ~$500K under LT.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Blazers out ~$64.1M, in ~$64.8M. We're ~$500K under LT.

How are you calculating only 64.1M out? the graphic shows 50.7M to Chicago, 14.1M to Atlanta. That's 64.8M.

 

[SIeepwalker]

can we stop including dame in fictional trades ? I'm having nausea

 

[illmatic99]

can we stop including dame in fictional trades ? I'm having nausea

People are being totally reckless. SMH. If we actually traded Dame, I would break down.

 

[Orion Bailey]

People are being totally reckless. SMH. If we actually traded Dame, I would break down.

I would ask Wookie to join me and you and we can all weep and hold hands.

 

[Denny Crane]

How are you calculating only 64.1M out? the graphic shows 50.7M to Chicago, 14.1M to Atlanta. That's 64.8M.

Bulls 50.7M in + Hawks $7.4M + 6.7M

Yeah, it's exactly even.

 

[Sarni]

I'd sure be tempted if we couldn't get a guy like Ibaka. I just don't understand why Atlanta is trading Milsap. He actually has a year and a half left on his contract. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/paul-millsap-2754/
Considering that, I can only think they want a really lot for him; otherwise why trade him?

He has a player option after this year and has already said he will opt out.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

He has a player option after this year and has already said he will opt out.

ok, thanks; I probably read that once and forgot it.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

can we stop including dame in fictional trades ? I'm having nausea

People are being totally reckless. SMH. If we actually traded Dame, I would break down.

I would ask Wookie to join me and you and we can all weep and hold hands.

If a deal made us a better team, I would gladly trade Dame. Butler is a better player, IMO.

 

[Orion Bailey]

If a deal made us a better team, I would gladly trade Dame. Butler is a better player, IMO.

Ithink the reason why we are against it is it would leave us leader less with a potential dysfunctional lineup. Why is Chi shopping Butler:? He isn't getting along with Dwade or something?

There are other factors than simply stats or game play.

 

[HolyBackboard]

Jimmy Butler is not a better basketball player than Damian Lillard.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Jimmy Butler is not a better basketball player than Damian Lillard.

I gave you a like, because. But with Butlers D, I think its VERY debatable

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Ithink the reason why we are against it is it would leave us leader less with a potential dysfunctional lineup. Why is Chi shopping Butler:? He isn't getting along with Dwade or something?

There are other factors than simply stats or game play.

I disagree with the notion that we'd be "leaderless", since we'd have CJ, whom I feel is also a natural leader. And we already have a somewhat dysfunctional lineup, which I think would be more effective, better balanced, and better defensively with Butler/Rolo.

But hey, it would never happen--because even though I'd be willing to trade Dame, there's no way Neil would--so it really doesn't matter.

 

[Minstrel]

I'd replace Olshey with PtldPlatypus as GM if he could force Chicago to make that deal.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I disagree with the notion that we'd be "leaderless", since we'd have CJ, whom I feel is also a natural leader. And we already have a somewhat dysfunctional lineup, which I think would be more effective, better balanced, and better defensively with Butler/Rolo.

But hey, it would never happen--because even though I'd be willing to trade Dame, there's no way Neil would--so it really doesn't matter.

Wanna fight about it?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Wanna fight about it?

Sure--I'll meet you in the kitchen section of the Mall 205 Bed Bath and Beyond at 4:30. Select two utensils and get ready to rumble.

 

[dviss1]

Don't make me hunt each and every one of you down with these Dame trade scenarios.

WHO'S WITH ME!

We'll be at your door with torches and pitchforks!!

 

[tester551]

I gave you a like, because. But with Butlers D, I think its VERY debatable

Not really even debatable. I'd take Butler 10 out of 10 times.
Dame's good, but he only plays one side of the floor.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Sure--I'll meet you in the kitchen section of the Mall 205 Bed Bath and Beyond at 4:30. Select two utensils and get ready to rumble.

Okay! I chose this:

And this:

I'm a roll you up and turn you into a puree!!