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Scalma said:
Knights contract really isn't that bad, even as a bench player, as long as Stotts gets the best out of him.
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I agree. Knight's contract is ok for todays NBA. It's much better than Crabbe's for example and we are talking about a player that averages career 16 points and 4.5 assists. It's a strange situation with the Suns right now but the kid can play.
 
bradk8605 said:
Anyone that thinks the Blazers are willing to Trade C.J for Cousins are Crazy. The ONLY way the Blazers trade CJ is for a quality player that has high character (i.e not Cousins).

Criteria #1: CJ averages 23.4 PPG, So if he were to be traded, I assume Portland would most likely want someone in return that scores say 18+ PPG.

Criteria #2: The Blazers need defensive help on the Front line So I eliminated all point guards, shooting guards and small forwards from the list.

Criteria #3: Player must have a better defensive rating than Mason Plumlee

Criteria #4: Player must Average at least 1 block/game.

Criteria #5: Player is under 30 years old.

Only 4 players met those criteria and are listed below. If The Blazers can't get one of these players for CJ & possible fillers, then there is no point in trading him.

Anthony Davis
Joel Embiid
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Karl-Anthony Towns

Here is link for defensive rating data I used.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats?...&pos=0&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0&page=1
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What would you think of Myles Turner? He meets all your criteria except 18+ppg (he's at 15.7), and that's primarily because he only plays 30 mpg. Aside from that, he's 6'11", has a drtg of 104, averages 2.4 blks/gm, and is just 20 years old.

Honestly, I don't think Indy would make that deal, but I could see some value in a CJ for Turner deal.

Also, Whiteside doesn't make your list either, because he's only at 17.4 ppg. Otherwise, he fits your criteria as well.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
What would you think of Myles Turner? He meets all your criteria except 18+ppg (he's at 15.7), and that's primarily because he only plays 30 mpg. Aside from that, he's 6'11", has a drtg of 104, averages 2.4 blks/gm, and is just 20 years old.

Honestly, I don't think Indy would make that deal, but I could see some value in a CJ for Turner deal.
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Doesn't Turner have an injury history? I thought it was the reason he dropped down to Indy in the draft. He's a sick player though. He's right next to Jokic as one of the best young bigs in the league.
 
Well Indy wouldn't do it so no reason to think about it. Really great player though.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
What would you think of Myles Turner? He meets all your criteria except 18+ppg (he's at 15.7), and that's primarily because he only plays 30 mpg. Aside from that, he's 6'11", has a drtg of 104, averages 2.4 blks/gm, and is just 20 years old.

Honestly, I don't think Indy would make that deal, but I could see some value in a CJ for Turner deal.

Also, Whiteside doesn't make your list either, because he's only at 17.4 ppg. Otherwise, he fits your criteria as well.
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Yeah Turner would be decent, and so would Whitehead, they were just below my threshold of 18 PPG, both are very Viable options.
 
bradk8605 said:
Anyone that thinks the Blazers are willing to Trade C.J for Cousins are Crazy. The ONLY way the Blazers trade CJ is for a quality player that has high character (i.e not Cousins).
Criteria #1: CJ averages 23.4 PPG, So if he were to be traded, I assume Portland would most likely want someone in return that scores say 18+ PPG.
Criteria #2: The Blazers need defensive help on the Front line So I eliminated all point guards, shooting guards and small forwards from the list.
Criteria #3: Player must have a better defensive rating than Mason Plumlee
Criteria #4: Player must Average at least 1 block/game.
Criteria #5: Player is under 30 years old.
Only 4 players met those criteria and are listed below. If The Blazers can't get one of these players for CJ & possible fillers, then there is no point in trading him.
Anthony Davis
Joel Embiid
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Karl-Anthony Towns
Here is link for defensive rating data I used.
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats?...&pos=0&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0&page=1
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1. Criterion.
2. Spoiler alert: they can't. The only POSSIBLE way they could would be if the "filler" was a #1 pick and Lillard.
 
GDiama said:
I agree. Knight's contract is ok for todays NBA. It's much better than Crabbe's for example and we are talking about a player that averages career 16 points and 4.5 assists. It's a strange situation with the Suns right now but the kid can play.
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Got to say: REALLY not a Knight fan. Not a good PG. Not a good SG. Every team he goes to gets worse when he plays. As soon as a team acquires him, they're looking to trade him.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Got to say: REALLY not a Knight fan. Not a good PG. Not a good SG. Every team he goes to gets worse when he plays. As soon as a team acquires him, they're looking to trade him.
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I agree. I was going to say he reminds me of (a taller) Damon Stoudamire, but Stoudamire actually ran significantly higher Assist Rates. Knight doesn't score nearly well enough to be a scoring point guard.
 
Minstrel said:
I agree. I was going to say he reminds me of (a taller) Damon Stoudamire, but Stoudamire actually ran significantly higher Assist Rates. Knight doesn't score nearly well enough to be a scoring point guard.
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Prepare for a healthy dose of blaspheme. Shooting percentages aren't all that different.
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Blazer Freak said:
You do realize that Brandon Knight is LEADING THE NBA IN NEGATIVE PLUS FUCKING MINUS. This is not even a comparison. Jesus Christ this board is insufferable. :biglaugh:
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You do realize the post was mostly (mostly) tongue-in-cheek/green font? The only thing that was kinda serious is the part where I responded to Knight not scoring well enough (efficiency / shooting percentage).
 
blue9 said:
You do realize the post was mostly (mostly) tongue-in-cheek/green font? The only thing that was kinda serious is the part where I responded to Knight not scoring well enough (efficiency / shooting percentage).
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Look at the TS%, yo. Lillard is at .562 while Knight is at .521. Lillard shoots and hits more three-pointers and shoots and hits more free throws. In the end, Knight is a very low efficiency scorer while Lillard is a pretty efficient scorer (and those are career numbers--Lillard's efficiency is even higher this year, .584).

You can also look at the Offensive Ratings for each--Lillard is at 113 (well above average) while Knight is at 101 (solidly below average). Lillard is even higher this year, at 117.
 
Blazer509 said:
Knight off the bench or Turner off the bench?
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Uhhh, both? Neither of them should be starting.
Or are you asking in a one-or-the-other manner? You think PHX would swap Turner/Knight? I doubt POR would.
 
Blazer509 said:
Who said they should be starting?
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I guess I was confused by your initial question. You asked which player off the bench, which to me implied one would start. But I guess you're asking in a more either/or, hypothetical way - as in, "who would you prefer as our play-maker off the bench?".

In that case, Turner.
 
If the answer is "Brandon Knight" I'm dying to know what the question is.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
9.8 rebounds per 36, 1.8 blocks per 36. Not that bad. longer than anyone we have.
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That was his rookie season. This year he's at 11.5/2.5 per 36. Shoots over 70%from the line as well.
 
I guess everyone waiting for trade deadline.If we trade it needs to be for the future.
 
I had a dream we traded Damian, Ed, Meyers, for Kat, Rubio, PEK.
 
From Marc stein:

A player who is sure to move between now and the trade deadline?

Denver's Jusuf Nurkic.

Sources say that the Nuggets, having acknowledged that Nikola Jokic and Nurkic didn't click as a pairing, are actively working to find Nurkic a new home that would give him the chance he deserves to be a front-line center.
 
Eastoff said:
I had a dream we traded Damian, Ed, Meyers, for Kat, Rubio, PEK.
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That was indeed a dream.

I was thinking I'd do Lillard for Ben Simmons. It might even be better for Lillard, because he'd end up on the more talented squad - Embiid is a monster. But Olshey would have to be fired and someone cold blooded like Trader Bob brought in.

Think about it @Minstrel: you want a big PG to pair with CJ and they don't come larger than Simmons...

 
Simmons is going to be a good player but I am not convinced that he can really play the PG position full-time. He could be the Batum distributor of course and would do that very well but actually start at PG long-term? Don't see it.
 
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