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SwissBlazer said:


Do you think that it could mean something?
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I hope so. :blazerwookie:

A week or two ago, there was a quote about the Blazers that they were not looking to move Turner or someone else. My memory was Crabbe was suspiciously missing from that quote. Can anyone find it?
 
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BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
That would be beneficial for both teams but I believe the Bucks would need to send more salary over.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z8lnjux

This would be nice
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I'd be happy to trade Crabbe away for more manageable salaries, but I don't think Henson would change a whole lot for the Blazers. Henson is basically Ed Davis, prior to Ed Davis' disastrous current season. In fact, I'd rather have the Davis who existed prior to this season than Henson.

But, as I said--more manageable contracts would be nice. If Milwaukee actually was willing to take Crabbe, that'd be great. I think Henson and Dellvedova are significantly more tradeable.
 
Crabbe should want to get traded, whoever trades for him is probably going to start him and he gets a 15% raise.
 
Naw, it's just the basketball gods fuckin with me since Nurkic and Henson are my top two choices.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
That would be beneficial for both teams but I believe the Bucks would need to send more salary over.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z8lnjux

This would be nice
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Not sure MIL is in any hurry to move Dellavedova. He's back in the starting line up and is 4th on the team in minutes played. I'm also not sure why they'd be so hot to land Crabbe, he'd be a temporary starter until Middleton returns and then he'd be back to being one of the most overpaid bench players in the league.

At the very least, MIL would need a backup PG in return. The trade still works if we add Napier, but I don't think MIL would be thrilled with giving Shabazz Napier Matthew Dellavodva's 26.7 MPG.

All in all, this trade doesn't seem to make sense for MIL, and other than unloading Crabbe's contract, it's not exactly a needle mover for POR. If you just look at positions, it helps balance the roster a little, in theory, but since Ed Davis and John Henson are so similar, it doesn't really help with the distribution of minutes. And, while Dellavedova is better than Napier, especially on defense, we'd still be stuck with the same undersized back court problem we currently have when playing him with either Dame or C.J.

BNM
 
Middleton is back in 2-3 months and he's a much better player than Crabbe, however Bucks are fighting for a playoffs spot NOW so it would in a way make sense to get a shooter in. Problem is they cannot really let Henson go because they need him too. Also, Dellavedova is their best point guard, unless they want to use Giannis at point and move Crabbe to SF when Middleton returns.
 
I see Neil not making any moves until draft time. If does it be minor for 2nd round pick. This draft it very deep even into the 2nd round. I believe we are going the draft way this year.
 
Trackjack said:
I see Neil not making any moves until draft time. If does it be minor for 2nd round pick. This draft it very deep even into the 2nd round. I believe we are going the draft way this year.
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I agree. Those 2 first round picks are valuable. Even though most of the players will take a couple years to really help.
 
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We'd be lucky to find a center like Nurkic at the end of the first round. He's only 22. I'm giving up that cleveland pick without hesitation
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I agree. Those 2 first round picks are valuable. Even though most of the players will take a couple years to really help.
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Im not so sure itll even take that long. At this point most of our top paid guys are playing below replacement level so rookie or not almost ANYTHING would help this team immediately.
 
chzbrgr said:
Im not so sure itll even take that long. At this point most of our top paid guys are playing below replacement level so rookie or not almost ANYTHING would help this team immediately.
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I think you are underestimating the jump in competition. If we draft on potential and grab some of these freshmen who are still raw but have a very high ceiling, it may be worth the investment, but they still are a couple of years away from helping us be better. Few of these guys are dominating in college right now. How are they going to get us into the playoffs? They may play but I doubt they will be ready year one. I think Vonleh is the norm these days.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think you are underestimating the jump in competition. If we draft on potential and grab some of these freshmen who are still raw but have a very high ceiling, it may be worth the investment, but they still are a couple of years away from helping us be better. Few of these guys are dominating in college right now. How are they going to get us into the playoffs? They may play but I doubt they will be ready year one. I think Vonleh is the norm these days.
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Im not asking for the moon here just like 13 ppg and 25 solid minutes of defense. I bet there's 5-6 rookies every year that put up numbers like that right? or am I out to lunch? if we had someone doing that reliably now they'd be our third best player that's all Im trying to say.
 
chzbrgr said:
Im not asking for the moon here just like 13 ppg and 25 solid minutes of defense. I bet there's 5-6 rookies every year that put up numbers like that right? or am I out to lunch? if we had someone doing that reliably now they'd be our third best player that's all Im trying to say.
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This decade, there have been precisely 6 rookies who have provided 13+ ppg on 25+ mpg with a Drtg of 105 or lower. Brandon Jennings is the only one of those who wasn't a top 5 pick.

http://bkref.com/tiny/i45rA
 
Sarni said:
Middleton is back in 2-3 months and he's a much better player than Crabbe, however Bucks are fighting for a playoffs spot NOW so it would in a way make sense to get a shooter in. Problem is they cannot really let Henson go because they need him too. Also, Dellavedova is their best point guard, unless they want to use Giannis at point and move Crabbe to SF when Middleton returns.
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How bout:

MIL Gets: Crabbe, Leonard
POR Gets: Henson, Snell, MIL top 10 2017 1st
CLE Gets: Dellevedova
BKN Gets: Shumpert, 2017 CLE 1st

MIL gets two shooters to put around Giannis,
We get a defensive C, shed salary, and upgrade CLEs 1st into MILs 1st
CLE Gets their backup PG
BKN gets a first for taking Shumperts salary
 
chzbrgr said:
Im not asking for the moon here just like 13 ppg and 25 solid minutes of defense. I bet there's 5-6 rookies every year that put up numbers like that right?
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WHAT rookies are you watching?
 
chzbrgr said:
Im not asking for the moon here just like 13 ppg and 25 solid minutes of defense. I bet there's 5-6 rookies every year that put up numbers like that right? or am I out to lunch? if we had someone doing that reliably now they'd be our third best player that's all Im trying to say.
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Maybe 5-8 ppg and solid defense is more realistic.
 
Scalma said:
We'd be lucky to find a center like Nurkic at the end of the first round. He's only 22. I'm giving up that cleveland pick without hesitation
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Realistically how good do you think Nurkic would be as a starting center? I like the idea of Nurkic and I wouldn't mind giving them clevelands first for him but I don't think he would be anything but an average starting center, kind of like Pryzbilla was, and i'm not that sure that he would be that much better then Plumlee. I'm not in favor of paying Plumlee the 17+ million he would get this year which is the main reason I wouldnt' mind giving up a first for Nurkic.
 
Rhal said:
Realistically how good do you think Nurkic would be as a starting center? I like the idea of Nurkic and I wouldn't mind giving them clevelands first for him but I don't think he would be anything but an average starting center, kind of like Pryzbilla was, and i'm not that sure that he would be that much better then Plumlee. I'm not in favor of paying Plumlee the 17+ million he would get this year which is the main reason I wouldnt' mind giving up a first for Nurkic.
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The interesting question to me is: how does the trade market for Plumlee compare with that for Nurkic? Which one is likely in higher demand around the league?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The interesting question to me is: how does the trade market for Plumlee compare with that for Nurkic? Which one is likely in higher demand around the league?
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Its probably Nurkic because any team that wants Plumlee could probably afford to steal him from us this summer with a 100/4 year offer and if they wanted to trade for him they would need to offer that anyways to him. Nurkic still has a cheap two years left.
 
HCP said:
WHAT rookies are you watching?
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Idk I guess just the good ones? like if youre a rookie with all-star ceiling youre usually putting up semi-decent numbers arent you? Im honestly asking.
 
This year nobody did it but last year

KAT
Deangelo Russel
Okafor
Myles Turner
Devon Booker

All in that point range

8 players in double figures
 
BonesJones said:
How bout:

MIL Gets: Crabbe, Leonard
POR Gets: Henson, Snell, MIL top 10 2017 1st
CLE Gets: Dellevedova
BKN Gets: Shumpert, 2017 CLE 1st

MIL gets two shooters to put around Giannis,
We get a defensive C, shed salary, and upgrade CLEs 1st into MILs 1st
CLE Gets their backup PG
BKN gets a first for taking Shumperts salary
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There's no way Milwaukee is trading a top-ten pick in a great draft for Crabbe and Leonard.

In general, "our garbage for your awesome asset" trades are never going to work.
 
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