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The spacing would be atrocious.

Yeah maybe you are right. But the same unit with Vonleh has not looked bad YET. But I understand teams will adapt. But Noel does have a mid range shot ( 10 feet) that is not horrible and with 3 guards in there with he and Plumlee there would be a lot of movement.
 
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Vonleh if he actually develops? 10%, 20% chance?

He's so far away from that right now, but if he improved hugely, he could fit the template. Right now, he's an immense offensive minus (at least, going by his TS% and Offensive Rating) and not good defensively either. He does show the ability to shoot and he's flashed some rim protection ability, so it's not a total stretch. But he's at least a couple years away, I'd guess, if he gets there at all.
 
What would you give for Melo? His stock isn't super high and he would at least be a better scorer than Hark or Aminu. Defense...... not so much.

Cleveland turned down Love for Melo. Supposedly.
No thanks. He's already developed, true vet and to old. What in God's green earth would we do with a player like that?
 
He's so far away from that right now, but if he improved hugely, he could fit the template. Right now, he's an immense offensive minus (at least, going by his TS% and Offensive Rating) and not good defensively either. He does show the ability to shoot and he's flashed some rim protection ability, so it's not a total stretch. But he's at least a couple years away, I'd guess, if he gets there at all.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/noah-vonleh/

Not all that encouraging if history is any guide.
 
I never go by some chart on a player how good he will be. Right now he is the 5 option on this team he doing the little thing to help his team. He sitting picks and rebounding and when does get chance score he been doing that the last 3 games.
 
GIVE. ME. NURKIC.
 

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I saw this quote a few weeks ago...
Leonard, Crabbe and Harkless aren’t eligible to be moved until Jan. 15. The team isn’t looking to trade McCollum or Turner, league sources say. In actuality, a trade not involving McCollum wouldn’t bring back a player capable of moving them up to the tier with the likes of Golden State, San Antonio and presumably Houston.
It implies that Crabbe & Meyers are being shopped. Any new rumors to speak of?
 
I saw this quote a few weeks ago...

It implies that Crabbe & Meyers are being shopped. Any new rumors to speak of?

It also doesn't say explicitly they aren't looking to trade Dame.
 
Vonleh if he actually develops? 10%, 20% chance?
Yeah, swap Vonleh/Harkless for Plumlee/Turner and spacing becomes much less of an issue, and it doesn't negatively impact our defense (and may actually be a positive).
 
He's so far away from that right now, but if he improved hugely, he could fit the template. Right now, he's an immense offensive minus (at least, going by his TS% and Offensive Rating) and not good defensively either. He does show the ability to shoot and he's flashed some rim protection ability, so it's not a total stretch. But he's at least a couple years away, I'd guess, if he gets there at all.
At worst, he's equal to Aminu on both ends of the floor. At worst. And in the 3rd quarter last night he showed he has the potential to be SO MUCH better. But even if he doesn't improve at all, he should be starting over Aminu for as long as they're both on the roster.
 
Someone save Nurkic. Didn't play tonight against Phoenix, a team that plays two traditional centers most of the time.
 
And now jokic is hurt. Didn't look good. Carted into locker room. But Nurkic still isn't in. Guessing that's because he hasn't played all game. If this is a long term injury, do the nuggets just roll with Nurkic? Malone doesn't seem to like him.
 
Someone save Nurkic. Didn't play tonight against Phoenix, a team that plays two traditional centers most of the time.

Well I watched the game and there were stretches Suns were playing Tucker and Dudley at PF and C. Not really two Cs lineup. It's true though that Nurkic is completely out of the rotation.
 
Now, after "my vets" show, Rondo goes or Butler goes I guess. And I always liked Rondos passing. I would prefer Stockton (but hate him), so Rondo I want Rondo.
 
Rondo was GREAT when he had veteran leadership to help control him, but now that he's a vet there isn't any seniority that he will submit to. It's a shame, because he's a damn good player - but he's more of a lost cause than DMC.
 
Rondo's also declined a ton from his prime. If you want a good defensive/passing point guard who can't shoot and who's also perfectly fine in the locker room, Rubio is better than Rondo now, in my opinion. Rondo was a great player at his peak, but that's years in the rear view.
 
I'd rather try and go after Butler, the Bulls will have to do something after the Rondo thing, although Rondo leaving is a lot more likely.
 
I'd rather try and go after Butler, the Bulls will have to do something after the Rondo thing, although Rondo leaving is a lot more likely.
Take 'em all. I suggested a Lillard+ for Rondo/Butler/Rolo deal a while back. I'd still do that...
 
Take 'em all. I suggested a Lillard+ for Rondo/Butler/Rolo deal a while back. I'd still do that...

Trading Lillard would be a tough pill to swallow, but after this season I'm a lot more open to trading one of CJ or Lillard, especially with the PG heavy draft. I'd rather get a really good big man for one of them though.
 
Trading Lillard would be a tough pill to swallow, but after this season I'm a lot more open to trading one of CJ or Lillard, especially with the PG heavy draft. I'd rather get a really good big man for one of them though.
Well sure, but I'm just saying that a CJ/Butler backcourt would probably be more effective than a Lillard/CJ one has been, and it'd be nice to get RoLo back and have a real big man in the middle again.

Never happen, but a man can always dream.
 
Well sure, but I'm just saying that a CJ/Butler backcourt would probably be more effective than a Lillard/CJ one has been, and it'd be nice to get RoLo back and have a real big man in the middle again.

Never happen, but a man can always dream.

Butler would be really nice after the defensive display we've seen this season.
 
Now, after "my vets" show, Rondo goes or Butler goes I guess. And I always liked Rondos passing. I would prefer Stockton (but hate him), so Rondo I want Rondo.

Did you not see the way he shit all over Dallas? They traded THREE useful players (Brandan Wright, Jameer Nelson and Jae Crowder) and two draft picks (a 1st and a 2nd) for that piece of shit and he pretty much single handedly destroyed their season. He was so disrupted, they suspended him and sent him home in the middle of a playoff series. Of course, they then let him walk for nothing and ended up giving up 3 players and 2 draft picks for 42 games of his pouting and antics.

No thanks. No way in hell do I want that ass hat anywhere near our young players.

BNM
 
The guy bitches about Butler/DWade going to the media with their gripes... on HIS own IG account.

Height of hypocrisy, and too much of a drama queen for our squad.

Pass.
 
Thats what most of the yahoos on the forum wanted. He is just giving the homer fans what they want

:bwpopcorn:

This is not true. I think most people in here want and have wanted a trade. Most want:

Meyers
Connaughton
Festus, his contract, and the mouth that got shut down by CJ...

Gone.

And most wouldn't mind seeing:

Aminu
Davis
Quarterman
Crabbe
Turner
Vonleh (keeper IMO)
Harkless (keeper IMO)

Used in a trade.

There have even been blasphemous and DISRESPECTFUL Dame trade scenarios (shame on you MFs... :dry:)

I don't think most of us want to bake. I think most of us want to shake.
 
This is not true. I think most people in here want and have wanted a trade. Most want:

Meyers
Connaughton
Festus, his contract, and the mouth that got shut down by CJ...

Gone.

And most wouldn't mind seeing:

Aminu
Davis
Quarterman
Crabbe
Turner
Vonleh (keeper IMO)
Harkless (keeper IMO)

Used in a trade.

There have even been blasphemous and DISRESPECTFUL Dame trade scenarios (shame on you MFs... :dry:)

I don't think most of us want to bake. I think most of us want to shake.
Green font needed? Lol

I thought the popcorn eating dude would have gave it away.
 

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