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Scalma said:




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The problem with Ibaka is that he's going to be a free agent. Dude is gonna get paaaaaaiiiiid. But, if we could somehow nab Ibaka and then trade for Whiteside, that would be a really nice step in the right direction. That frontcourt would certainly improve our interior defense.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The problem with Ibaka is that he's going to be a free agent. Dude is gonna get paaaaaaiiiiid. But, if we could somehow nab Ibaka and then trade for Whiteside, that would be a really nice step in the right direction. That frontcourt would certainly improve our interior defense.
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If all he cares about his money, the team acquiring him has an advantage over any other team trying to sign him because of bird rights.
 
Nate said:
Orlando is so stupid.
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That's why we're going to get ibaka for Davis, Ezeli, and a 2nd rounder! I'm joking, but take a look at what they traded Tobias Harris for...so maybe I'm not?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
So, Crabbe, Leonard and picks for Ibaka/Vucevic...?
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That actually appears to work. Wouldn't that be somewhat enticing? Gives ORL a scoring wing and replaces one of the bigs they lost.

My primary concern is that it doesn't fix our lack of defense in our starting backcourt. Plumlee probably gets way to much blame as being a poor defender, when it is really the starting guards. You could bring in Ibaka and Vucevic and they could both end up looking bad also.
 
Reep said:
That actually appears to work. Wouldn't that be somewhat enticing? Gives ORL a scoring wing and replaces one of the bigs they lost.

My primary concern is that it doesn't fix our lack of defense in our starting backcourt. Plumlee probably gets way to much blame as being a poor defender, when it is really the starting guards. You could bring in Ibaka and Vucevic and they could both end up looking bad also.
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According to the radio show I was listening to today, the Blazers had a top-10 offense and NBA worst defense for the first 30 games of the season, but over the past 19 games, they've got a top-10 defense and a bottom-10 offense. If that's the new normal, then perhaps we should be more concerned with improving/balancing the offense.
 
Reep said:
That actually appears to work. Wouldn't that be somewhat enticing? Gives ORL a scoring wing and replaces one of the bigs they lost.

My primary concern is that it doesn't fix our lack of defense in our starting backcourt. Plumlee probably gets way to much blame as being a poor defender, when it is really the starting guards. You could bring in Ibaka and Vucevic and they could both end up looking bad also.
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I don't think Orlando would do both Ibaka AND Vucevic.

I'd try to do this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j7665xc

And then this summer trade CJ for Whiteside when he comes off the PPP restriction.
 
chzbrgr said:
I like what youre doing here with this trade but CJ aint going no where no how unless we get a sure fire best player on the team type of guy. Whiteside aint worth it on his own.
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That remains to be seen. If you got Ibaka and the team defense still suffered mightily under the leadership of the Splash-and-Leak brothers, then you have to consider a second move.
 
Ibaka makes no sense unless we clear the payroll to resign him in the Summer. 3 months of him are not worth giving up anything for, certainly not draft picks.
 
Sarni said:
Ibaka makes no sense unless we clear the payroll to resign him in the Summer. 3 months of him are not worth giving up anything for, certainly not draft picks.
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We wouldn't trade for him if we weren't planning on keeping him.
 
Sarni said:
Ibaka makes no sense unless we clear the payroll to resign him in the Summer. 3 months of him are not worth giving up anything for, certainly not draft picks.
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Technically we wouldn't have to clear $ to sign him because we would be getting his bird rights. As for luxury tax we can worry about clearing salary in the summer
 
Ibaka would be the best player we've traded for since..... Pippen and Steve Smith? Not including draft day trades like Roy or LA.

If we don't get him I'd be pretty bummed.
 
I still think Vucevic is Olsheys number one fantasy. I mean, he's everything he's ever dreamed about in a center. Great size, very good offensively, and average defensively.
 
Scalma said:
I still think Vucevic is Olsheys number one fantasy. I mean, he's everything he's ever dreamed about in a center. Great size, very good offensively, and average defensively.
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Okafor is my bet. But I hope I am wrong.
 
I wonder what the real asking price is for either Ibaka or vucevic or both? Do we really have a legit shot at it? Both would change the team in one swift move, but at what cost?
 
Scalma said:
Okafor isn't even as bad as his rep has gotten, but he wouldn't work next to someone like Plumlee. But next to ibaka? Sure.
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Well that goes without saying. Neither Vucevic or Okafor work next to Plumlee. They are both Centers. And yes I would love Ibaka instead. A Longshot to say the least.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Gives the Blazers a chance to play with a Lillard trade in the near future and make this team Cj's team? Probably not though.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ze69wzm
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That trade never even makes it to the "is it enough" phase. It makes absolutely ZERO sense for ORL.

If they trade Ibaka, they are clearly in rebuilding mode. So, why would a team in rebuilding mode trade their 22-year old 6'4" starting PG? Do you really think they are banking on the 6'0" 29-rear old D.J. Augustin as their PG of the Future and a centerpiece of their rebuilding effort?

And no way in hell do they take back Maurice Harkless, a player they gave away for a top 55 protected 2nd round draft pick in a trade that sees them give up two starters and gets them zero starters in return. Yeah, that wouldn't be at all embarrassing. Even if it wasn't, SF is not a position of need for them.

I get that ORL, has made some questionable trades in the past, but even they hang up on Neil and block his number if he calls them up and proposes that trade.

BNM
 
Reep said:
That remains to be seen. If you got Ibaka and the team defense still suffered mightily under the leadership of the Splash-and-Leak brothers, then you have to consider a second move.
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Yes, a coaching move.
 
Trade assets: limited

The heavy lifting in Portland will likely occur in the summer and not at the trade deadline.

Faced with the prospect of having the top payroll in the NBA next season, Portland will have the opportunity to shed contracts this summer when their own players have less money and years remaining on their deals.

Although Portland does have Ezeli’s $7.4 million 2017-18 salary ($1 million protection) to dangle, future luxury-tax concerns should have Blazers management thinking twice about taking back a long-term contract.

The Trail Blazers, with two first-round picks (their own and Cleveland’s), will find more value in each pick as the June draft approaches and not in February.

Portland also has the draft rights to former 2015 second-round pick Dani Diez, who was acquired in a draft-night trade with Utah in exchange for $1.5 million. Diez currently plays in Spain for Unicaja Malaga.


The mistake teams often make when going through a season that falls below expectations is shaking up the roster at the expense of its best players.


McCollum also has a poison-pill restriction in his contract that makes it nearly impossible for Portland to trade him.

GM history at the deadline

Neil Olshey has taken two different approaches in recent years.

Last season, with a league-low payroll, Portland was able to absorb the contracts of Brian Roberts (from Miami) and Anderson Varejao (from Cleveland) in exchange for a 2017 first-round pick and a future second-round pick.

The trade got Portland closer to the salary cap floor and saved the organization close to $8 million.


Although he was injured in early April, Afflalo gave Portland quality starter minutes when Wes Matthews was lost for the season because of a torn Achilles’ tendon.

Post-trade deadline roster movement

Barring a trade, Portland should have 15 guaranteed contracts after the deadline.

The Trail Blazers, currently $27,000 below the luxury tax, will need to remain vigilant to stay below the tax.

Portland is projected to be a tax team in future years, and the one thing it cannot afford to do is set the wheels in motion to become a repeater tax team three years from now.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/trade-guide-west-teams-pushing-for-last-playoff-spot-195756875.html
 
But, but, but...Denny Crane said spending near the luxury tax was good.
 
Everything points towards summer moves being made and none being made before trade deadline
 
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