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Scalma said:
Those three picks won't be enough to land butler, especially if Boston offers up that Brooklyn pick. Cousins is almost 100% staying in Sacramento. I doubt it's enough to land George either, I mean come on, two of those picks will be in the 20s. First round picks are valuable, but they're not THAT valuable.

Oh and we'd have to match salaries as well.
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Take a look at what UTH got for Williams and what DEN got for Melo - teams trading star players don't get good value in return.

Also, I'm hopeful that OUR pick will be in the 5-8 range, with an outside shot at Top 3. That makes the trade a lot more enticing than if we end up with the 10-15th pick. And of course it would include Crabbe and probably Vonleh (or whatever young player they want) if the acquiring team thinks they can turn him into a player.

DMC is going to re-sign with SAC - but he'll get traded afterwards. He doesn't want to give up the money, and SAC doesn't want to trade him for peanuts, but the two will both get what they want after he signs a new contract.
 
Melo isn't a good example, his contract was running out and told Denver he wasn't going to sign an extension. That hurts a players value. Williams was in a similar situation.

There's no need to settle for Chicago since Butler is locked in long term. Same with George.

Cousins is going to re-sign in Sacramento, anything after that is speculation, not based on anything factual.
 
Yea those 3 is off the table for sure. Neil properly looking to get power foward on his next move. I know he older than our group is but Gibson from Chicago would fit really good with our front court. Can Reb and play very good defense and also can score the ball.
 
blue9 said:
Even though TOR's pick won't be great, it is another asset. I'd gladly trade Aminu for Sullinger/Pick - cuts another $7.5M from our salary and gives us a 4th pick!
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If that's actually out there, I jump on that quick. Sully and ET have great chemistry too
 
Scalma said:
... anything after that is speculation, not based on anything factual.
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Everything here is speculation - that's the point of boards like this.
Butler's value is hurt by the wide-spread knowledge that he doesn't like management and management isn't sold on Butler being the guy they want to build around.
The moment George gets fed up with IND his trade value will be less.
That's literally the only time star players get traded - when they're upset with their team, and their trade value is weakened.
 
If the Bulls decide to blow it up, I think we can help them out. "WITH A 28-29 record, giving them the seventh seed in the Eastern Conference, the Chicago Bulls find themselves at an impasse. Mere days remain until the trade deadline, and a reported internal debate rages on: Should they blow things up? If so, should they trade Jimmy Butler, their 27-year-old shooting guard who is signed to an affordable five-year, $95 million max contract through the 2019-2020 season? Is he the future they should build around or is he the road to future assets?"

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18701196/how-jimmy-butler-rise-force-chicago-bulls-hand
 
We arent getting jimmy butler. The celtics can offer brooklyns pick, jaylen brown and contracts in order to get him. We have nothing of comparable value that we would give up.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
We arent getting jimmy butler. The celtics can offer brooklyns pick, jaylen brown and contracts in order to get him. We have nothing of comparable value that we would give up.
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I agree that BOS is our biggest roadblock to acquiring Butler. After that though, I think we have a semi-legit shot at him. I hope that CHI doesn't move him at the deadline, BOS does make a move at the deadline thus depleting their assets, and that CHI decides to blow it up on Draft Day when we have three or four picks - one of them being in the 5-8 range.
 
blue9 said:
Everything here is speculation - that's the point of boards like this.
Butler's value is hurt by the wide-spread knowledge that he doesn't like management and management isn't sold on Butler being the guy they want to build around.
The moment George gets fed up with IND his trade value will be less.
That's literally the only time star players get traded - when they're upset with their team, and their trade value is weakened.
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That Butler stuff is speculation as well, and even if it were true, I don't see how it would hurt his value. Even if he asked for a trade, there would be no reason for Chicago to settle. Same with George. They have no leverage, theyre under long term contracts. Probably why you don't usually see guys openly complain until they get closer to free agency.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Jaylen Brown is....... not impressive.
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He was the 3rd pick, he still has 3 cheap years left, he is only 20 years old and he sure as hell is more attractive than any young asset we have (unless you consider dame or cj available). Couple him with the best chance of getting the #1 pick, and we cant compete with that.
 
Sarni said:
New Orleans would just love to trade possibly the most versatile and talented player in the league for two overpaid players, a role player and a filler (so 4 players out of which 0 will improve them) plus three late picks. Such an amazing deal.

At least include Dame or CJ in these fairy tale potential trade. Same goes for Cousins and Butler. We HAVE TO include CJ to land a player of this calibre.
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Why you have to bust up a man's dreams???????
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Pistons have really soured on Reggie.

I kind of don't blame them though.
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Jeez talk about giving up nothing. Maybe if Orlando gave up a pick.

If that's what it takes for Jackson we should be offering E.T./Crabbe.
 
BonesJones said:
Jeez talk about giving up nothing. Maybe if Orlando gave up a pick.

If that's what it takes for Jackson we should be offering E.T./Crabbe.
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I wouldn't even trade Turner for him, maybe Crabbe to get out of that contract but Reggie's isn't a great value either. Jackson is a SG in a PG body who can't shoot as well as he should in that case.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Jaylen Brown is....... not impressive.
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Jaylen Brown is like a lot of other high lottery picks drafted on their athletic ability and their hype coming out of HS.
But in the end their effectiveness in the NBA comes down to how much their outside shooting improves. The list is very long for players who never improved enough. Way too early to know about JB.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
I wouldn't even trade Turner for him, maybe Crabbe to get out of that contract but Reggie's isn't a great value either. Jackson is a SG in a PG body who can't shoot as well as he should in that case.
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BigGameDamian said:
Why would we want Reggie Jackson when we have C.J? I'd rather just keep Crabbe if we have to.
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A SG in a PGs body sings like a good 6th man to me.

It'd be more so to trade him for an expiring contracts in the summer if that 3-guard rotation didn't work. We could get more value back for him than Turner, so if Detroit was willing to trade him for Turner then I don't see why not.
 
BigGameDamian said:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z7azwt5

Rondo only has 2 more years.
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How many times can you use the stretch provision? I don't want Rondo anywhere near our locker room, let alone on the court in a POR uniform. But, if we could waive him and spread the balance of his salary out over the next five years (like we did with Varejao), I'd do it if it got us Butler.

Still, I have to think CHI could, and will, get better offers for Butler.

BNM
 
BBert said:
I could handle cutting Rondo before he even boards the plane, if it gets us Butler. But no way do I want that guy anywhere near my team.
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Butler, Mathews, Allen is the kind of player Lillard should be playing beside though.
 
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