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Kerry Eggers is going to get a very dirty look from Olshey the next time he is in the Rose Garden.

As for Crabbe's contract, it's not that it's untradeable, it's that it needs to be an unbalanced trade with Portland taking back a lot less salary. That way they can pay the trade kicker which goes against the salary cap but won't push them into the Luxury Tax. If it was a $ for $ trade, Portland has to pay around $20M in Luxury tax....my understanding.

Taking less for Crabbe means you either get little back, a rookie deal (some would be fine) or the other team has to throw in a pick.

So the trade kicker hurts the cap/tax? how the hell we ever gonna trade him
 
I'd actually rather get out of the Turner deal than Crabbe, because at last Crabbe is a good spot up shooter.
 
So the trade kicker hurts the cap/tax? how the hell we ever gonna trade him

Not sure if the trade kicker is for the length of the contract or not. Someone, please clarify. It might be just the no-trade part w/o consent is for one year.
 
Then every contract is tradeable.

You know what he meant. Just don't want to see the truth.
No I really don't, as every contract is "tradable" depending upon what's coming back and what is attached. I really hope Crabbe's contract is not a bad as I think it is, be happy to be proven wrong about that, we may see
 
Kerry Eggers is going to get a very dirty look from Olshey the next time he is in the Rose Garden.

As for Crabbe's contract, it's not that it's untradeable, it's that it needs to be an unbalanced trade with Portland taking back a lot less salary. That way they can pay the trade kicker which goes against the salary cap but won't push them into the Luxury Tax. If it was a $ for $ trade, Portland has to pay around $20M in Luxury tax....my understanding.

Taking less for Crabbe means you either get little back, a rookie deal (some would be fine) or the other team has to throw in a pick.
good, it was IMO pretty spot on about what happened and who is to blame
 
Here's what I'd do:

1.) See if Philadelphia would trade Okafor for Crabbe
2.) See if a team would trade a 1st for Nurkic (We could do that as a separate trade, then trade that 1st), or preferably Aminu/Davis.
3.) Shop Okafor with Harkless and up to the 4 picks for a star (Butler, George, Drummond, etc.). Would be a 3-team trade with Philadelphia.

So hypothetically:

Trade Aminu to WAS for 24th pick.

Then:
PHI Gets: Crabbe
We Get: All-Star, Henderson
Team 3 Gets: Harkless, Okafor, POR 1st, MEM 1st, WAS 1st, CLE 1st
So like this? http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hurlttu

Not the craziest trade you have proposed at least :) Puts us in huge luxury tax area though.
 
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Guessing it will go archived after livestream done:

I'm listening from the start as I missed most of it, and this is all really good stuff.

Interesting discussion at ~23 about the difficulty of making the decision to blow it up when you know you are not good enough to beat one team. Specifically talking about the Hawks and how they are not built to beat the Cavs, do they make the decision to blow it up and trade Millsap, and what does that show the fans.

Sometimes blowing it up is the obvious move, but sometimes that is the right move, and it's not so obvious. The Hawks do seem like one of those teams that this might pertain to. I'd say the same about the Clippers but they've basically moved from not so obvious to right in your face for a while.
 
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I'm listening from the start as I missed most of it, and this is all really good stuff.

Interesting discussion at ~36:00 about the difficulty of making the decision to blow it up when you know you are not good enough to beat one team. Specifically talking about the Hawks and how they are not built to beat the Cavs, do they make the decision to blow it up and trade Millsap, and what does that show the fans.

Sometimes blowing it up is the obvious move, but sometimes that is the right move, and it's not so obvious. The Hawks do seem like one of those teams that this might pertain to. I'd say the same about the Clippers but they've basically moved from not so obvious to right in your face for a while.

Can you do me a favor and tell me when the blazer talk begins? thanks life saver
 
I 100% agree with Woj Olshey likely being patient and waiting to see if he can be part of a bigger deal during the draft.

Woj says that with all the options we have there is no reason not to be patient.
 
I haven't heard that he isn't. Lot's up in the air for LA after this move, no idea what Magic's plan going forward is. Obviously wants draft picks, which we have, so hopefully Neil is getting more information about Randle than we can.
I consider him young so if you consider him talented...
 
Magic strikes me as kind of like divac but on the opposite end, where he will overvalue all his players and be a bitch to deal with.

Getting rid of Lou Williams doesn't count, lakers literally need to tank this season.
 
Any interest in Gallinari? Portland doesn't really have ending contracts outside of Ezeli. It would have to be something like Ezeli and Aminu or Harkless.
He an opt-out that he is taking I believe. So depends on if you feel you can resign him.
 

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