Merged: Nets trade Jefferson to Spurs

[BlazerFanForLife]

via Chad Fords Espn chat

Bowen oberto and Thomas for Jefferson I'm on my iPhone so can't link

 

[alex42083]

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Spurs-Nets, or Spurs-Bucks?

 

[Chutney]

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The San Antonio Spurs are in serious discussions with the Milwaukee Bucks for forward Richard Jefferson(notes), league executives told Yahoo! Sports on Tuesday.

The proposed deal would have the Spurs send send veterans Bruce Bowen(notes), Kurt Thomas(notes) and Fabricio Oberto(notes) to the Bucks, who are looking to shed the remaining two years, $29.2 million on Jefferson’s contract for the Spurs’ expiring contracts.

The deal isn’t completed, but league executives say both teams appear motivated to get it done.

Jefferson is the athletic, scoring forward that Spurs have craved to complement the aging tandem of Tim Duncan(notes) and Manu Ginobili(notes). The Spurs have been pursuing the New Jersey Nets Vince Carter(notes) too, but it appears Jefferson is the deal that they can make now.

After arriving in Milwaukee last summer from New Jersey, Jefferson averaged 19.6 points for the Bucks last season.

Bowen, 38, has been a staple of the past three Spurs championships and one of the NBA’s most dogged defenders

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It's still a rumour. But it sounds like it's gonna happen.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

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via Chad Fords Espn chat

Bowen oberto and Thomas for Jefferson I'm on my iPhone so can't link

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27094

 

[alex42083]

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Huge pickup for San Antonio... and Milwaukee continues to prove that they aren't going anywhere.

 

[RR7]

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Bowen and Oberto each have non-guaranteed deals. Milwaukee can waive each of them, and take on only 3.9 in salary from the two of them. Thomas is 3.8 for next year. Total of 7.7 between the 3 of them. Jefferson was at 14.2. Saves them a good 6.5 million to spend on Sessions and/or Villanueva.

Of course, makes their trade of Yi for Jefferson last year look stupid. What a garbage organization they are. Always kind of running in place, it seems.

 

[Mediocre Man]

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Who cares, Jefferson isn't an upgrade for us. No way a defensive minded player who can score as well would be a good fit for us.

KP better make things happen this summer, or we are going to get lapped so to speak.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

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The Spurs are trying to play out the string of a championship window. But maybe this will do it if Parker stays.

 

[The Professional Fan]

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Most important - does this make the Spurs better? Yeah. That sucks.

 

[axs88]

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Hope this doesn't hurt our chances of landing Sessions (if we'll go after him).

 

[Mediocre Man]

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On a side note, Bruce Bowen anyone? He will more than likely be waived by the Bucks. He would be a great fit for us.

This also means bye bye to any Ramon Sessions fantasies some of you may have had

 

[Mediocre Man]

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Most important - does this make the Spurs better? Yeah. That sucks.

If this goes through, the Spurs just got better than Portland in 2010.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

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If this trade goes through, we might have to forget about getting Ramon Sessions.

 

[MAS RipCity]

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good for sa but shreds what depth they had left, still dont think it puts them over the top

 

[oldmangrouch]

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Who cares, Jefferson isn't an upgrade for us. No way a defensive minded player who can score as well would be a good fit for us.

KP better make things happen this summer, or we are going to get lapped so to speak.

If the Spurs want him, he must be a worthless bum. Everybody knows how lousy they are at evaluating talent!

 

[alex42083]

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It probably meant that Jefferson was widely available at the trade deadline for RLEC as well. But I don't think he was the right fit for us anyway.

It just hurts to see a Western Conference contender get stronger. Damn you Milwaukee... you might as well be Memphis and Chris Wallace.

 

[andalusian]

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On a side note, Bruce Bowen anyone? He will more than likely be waived by the Bucks. He would be a great fit for us.

This also means bye bye to any Ramon Sessions fantasies some of you may have had

Good chance you are right. But it also means, probably, one more PG left on the draft board with a chance we can trade up to get someone like Ty Lawson.

 

[hasoos]

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Huge pickup for San Antonio... and Milwaukee continues to prove that they aren't going anywhere.

Actually if you think about it, if what I think is going to happen (All of the players they receive retire) then this gives them the money to resign Sessions and Villenuevea. So in a way, it will keep their franchise from imploding completely.

 

[BasX]

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Spurs stole Jefferson

Then again Bucks need more money and all three expire next year IIRC.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

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Why does this kill our chances of getting Sessions? If the salaries match, then the Bucks are still going to go over the cap if somebody signs Sessions to a big offer sheet, and they won't do that. The only way it would clear space for them RIGHT NOW is if somebody's contract isn't guaranteed? Is that right?

If it is, then I guess they do want to sign Sessions. Good. Now they don't need their draft pick...

 

[The Professional Fan]

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If this goes through, the Spurs just got better than Portland in 2010.

Yeah, that's totally possible. A healthy Duncan/Ginobili/Parker/Jefferson is pretty damn nasty.

 

[Mediocre Man]

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Good chance you are right. But it also means, probably, one more PG left on the draft board with a chance we can trade up to get someone like Ty Lawson.

So Ty Lawson will make Portland as good as Richard Jefferson makes SA?


Sorry, but who gives a fuck about more rookies at this point. Let's compete this year.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

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To answer my question:

The Bucks incentive to make the trade is largely financial. Bowen, Oberto and Thomas are all in the last year of their contracts. The deal will clear $15 million off the books for the Bucks next season and give Milwaukee more flexibility for next year. It also saves them roughly $3 million this year. That may give the Bucks the wiggle room to sign one of their restricted free agents -- either Charlie Villanueva or Ramon Sessions -- next year.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

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Yeah, that's totally possible. A healthy Duncan/Ginobili/Parker/Jefferson is pretty damn nasty.

Aye, there's the rub.

 

[Mediocre Man]

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Why does this kill our chances of getting Sessions? If the salaries match, then the Bucks are still going to go over the cap if somebody signs Sessions to a big offer sheet, and they won't do that. The only way it would clear space for them RIGHT NOW is if somebody's contract isn't guaranteed? Is that right?

If it is, then I guess they do want to sign Sessions. Good. Now they don't need their draft pick...

Niether contract they traded for is guaranteed I believe.

 

[Uther TheGardener]

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watch Jeff get hurt in the second week of the season....followed by manu and tim.....

 

[alex42083]

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Actually if you think about it, if what I think is going to happen (All of the players they receive retire) then this gives them the money to resign Sessions and Villenuevea. So in a way, it will keep their franchise from imploding completely.

True.. but if their cornerstone players are Sessions and Villanueva, along with an injured Redd, and they're going to pay big money to them.. they're still going nowhere. They still won't make the playoffs next season.

It's just a franchise treading water, and doing nothing to take it to the next level. I guess the only reason I care about it is that the Spurs got an All-Star caliber player for nothing.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

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Sorry, but who gives a fuck about more rookies at this point. Let's compete this year.

Funny that you should mention SA, rookies, and competing. Didn't SA win a title with a rookie PG? A foreign teenager, no less.

 

[Boise Blazer]

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Yeah, that's totally possible. A healthy Duncan/Ginobili/Parker/Jefferson is pretty damn nasty.

Yikes! I Knew it would be a good trade for them but to see their lineup typed out in front of me is kinda nasty indeed. In fact, Jefferson may be about the perfect fit for them at the 3 spot. All five of their starters can drop 30 on any given night.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

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I wonder if there are picks involved.