MEYERS LEONARD: NEW TRAINER, NEW SHOT, NEW OUTLOOK AS HE VOWS TO IMPROVE

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Driew said:
I'm more than willing to give the guy another chance. It'd be stupid to wish for the worst for a guy on your team lol.
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Serious question: What does giving him another chance mean?

If you mean "don't cut him", I agree. If you mean "play him in front of highly skilled do-everything Collins and superrebounder Swanigan" because he has senority, then I don't agree at all.

What do you mean?
 
...yeah, that ought to work -- let's change everything up over the course of 2-3 months -- good luck with that Meyers "Fucking" Leonard (nickname not to be confused with Harrison "Dang Diddily Do Damn Diddily Darn" Barnes) :sigh:
 
And hes been training all summer. All month of it
 
Driew said:
I'm more than willing to give the guy another chance. It'd be stupid to wish for the worst for a guy on your team lol.
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Absolutely, anything the guy does to improve is good for him and good for the team. I want all of our guys to improve over the off season.

I want them all to take a page out of Wesley Matthews summer workout regimen. That was a guy who was undrafted, became a starter his rookie year and even after UTA declined to match our toxic offer sheet and he got paid the big bucks, Wes did not rest on his laurels. Every fall he came back with some new skill he didn't have previously - one year it was the step back 3-pointer, the next it was a low post game. The summer after he left here he made a record recovery from a ruptured Achilles's. He wasn't just in the DAL starting line up on opening night - like he said he would be, he led his tea in minutes that season.

Dame has always had that drive to get better. C.J. has it. Swanigan seems to have it as well. A newly fit and motivated Nurk seems to have acquired it. Let's hope its infectious and spreads to the other guys on our roster. Its not like the rest of our guys don't have things that need improving...

BNM
 
From the video, his shot looks a lot quicker, and more instinctual, rather than his slow and over thought out shooting style of years past.

I'll give him 20 games before I'm back on the "trade him" bandwagon.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Serious question: What does giving him another chance mean?

If you mean "don't cut him", I agree. If you mean "play him in front of highly skilled do-everything Collins and superrebounder Swanigan" because he has senority, then I don't agree at all.

What do you mean?
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To me, that means he has his spot in the rotation until somebody else beats him out. With two rookies nipping at his heals, he needs to get better just to fend them off. He can't stand still or they will blow by him and lap him by the end of the preseason. He seems to realize that and is putting in the work. Time will tell if it pays off. If it does, great. If it doesn't, more playing time for the rookies. Seems like a win:win either way.

BNM
 
If Meyers Leonard improves this year and shows he can actually play in this league I will be the first to start a "I cant believe its not butters" campaign

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I still have a soft spot for the guy and want him to succeed, if for no other reason than I sometimes feel bad at the amount of hate he gets here.

But it seems like we hear something similar every off season. This will be his sixth year, so I'll believe it when I see it. He's gonna really have to improve dramatically if he wants to see much playing time this year.
 
Driew said:
I'm more than willing to give the guy another chance. It'd be stupid to wish for the worst for a guy on your team lol.
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This is so true. It is amazing to me how many on this board persist in finding faults and are happy to bitch about players. Myself, I will always cheer and encourage anyone wearing the red, black and white pinwheel. That does not mean I don't get aggravated at bone headed plays, lack of effort or bad character displayed by team members.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Serious question: What does giving him another chance mean?

If you mean "don't cut him", I agree. If you mean "play him in front of highly skilled do-everything Collins and superrebounder Swanigan" because he has senority, then I don't agree at all.

What do you mean?
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I don't think the team would or should decide playing time based on seniority any more than they should concede losses just to develop a draft pick. They can develop in practice and earn their minutes. The best player or the best matchup on a given night should play. Period. I have a hard time imagining that's going to be Collins over Meyers for at least the first 10 games of the season. If Collins beats him out that quickly, that will be great. In the meantime I hope fans remember Collins came off the bench his entire one year college career. He's young, weak by NBA standards, and inexperienced. Meyers was a huge let down last season. Even Meyers knows that. Whatever else Meyers is doing this summer, I hope it includes twice a week sessions with a sports psychologist, because really that's his biggest problem.

At the end of the day, I want all of our players to exceed expectations. Even Meyers.

:cheers:
 
I don't understand why players higher their own trainers. Aren't our coaches supposed to be coaching them? Or is their a rule against that in the summer?
 
julius said:
From the video, his shot looks a lot quicker, and more instinctual, rather than his slow and over thought out shooting style of years past.

I'll give him 20 games before I'm back on the "trade him" bandwagon.
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That's the spirit bro! :cheers:
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Serious question: What does giving him another chance mean?

If you mean "don't cut him", I agree. If you mean "play him in front of highly skilled do-everything Collins and superrebounder Swanigan" because he has senority, then I don't agree at all.

What do you mean?
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Yeah don't cut him (edit: or trade him for peanuts) after a bad season. And if Meyers is outplaying Collins next season then that is a great sign for our team. Give Collins time to develop and learn the NBA game/speed while Meyers steps his game up. If we are forced to play Collins over Meyers simply because Meyers regressed even more this offseason instead of Collins simply outplaying Meyers than that's doubly troubling for the team.
 
Sinobas said:
I don't understand why players higher their own trainers. Aren't our coaches supposed to be coaching them? Or is their a rule against that in the summer?
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I'm pretty sure coaches aren't allowed in the gym with players until training camp.
 
if you cant improve as a player, then just stop being soft, it would be enough
I feel Swanigan would beat the shit out of him, on and of the court

and no more chances for Meyers, fuck off from this team

Zach, Caleb, Vonleh all day long...
 
Driew said:
I'm pretty sure coaches aren't allowed in the gym with players until training camp.
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I believe they are allowed for individual workouts - they are not allowed to coach group settings.
 
The weird thing about Meyers is that he has the tools he needs to be a solid NBA player. He's got a good NBA body in terms of size and strength. He's pretty athletic. He has a good shooting touch and decent hands. The problem seems to me to be that he has an incredibly slow basketball processor in his brain. Once he catches the ball, you can practically see the gears turning as he runs down the list of things he's supposed to consider and do. By the time he's decided, too often he's too late to make the play he needs to. He just has zero natural instinct, or perhaps he's just suppressed them and gone to this mechanical approach. I don't know if he can change that at this point in his development.
 
Mr. Robot said:
if you cant improve as a player, then just stop being soft, it would be enough
I feel Swanigan would beat the shit out of him, on and of the court

and no more chances for Meyers, fuck off from this team

Zach, Caleb, Vonleh all day long...
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He's going to come into training camp and be matched up with Nurk....if that doesn't break him, he'll have made the leap
 
e_blazer said:
The weird thing about Meyers is that he has the tools he needs to be a solid NBA player. He's got a good NBA body in terms of size and strength. He's pretty athletic. He has a good shooting touch and decent hands. The problem seems to me to be that he has an incredibly slow basketball processor in his brain. Once he catches the ball, you can practically see the gears turning as he runs down the list of things he's supposed to consider and do. By the time he's decided, too often he's too late to make the play he needs to. He just has zero natural instinct, or perhaps he's just suppressed them and gone to this mechanical approach. I don't know if he can change that at this point in his development.
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I just want him to keep his eyes open when he's under the basket....
 
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