Meyers Leonard, potential superstar

[Tunchi]

Meyers has that Vonleh problem where they have no confidence whatsoever in their abilities. Honestly if you think about it their both really just, pussies. Like no lie, they have no killer instinct and no desire to prove to anybody they belong.

 

[Strenuus]

Meyers has that Vonleh problem where they have no confidence whatsoever in their abilities. Honestly if you think about it their both really just, pussies. Like no lie, they have no killer instinct and no desire to prove to anybody they belong.

Vonleh is 19. That doesn't work here.

Meyers makes sense. Stop trying to make the two of them compatible. One has been in the league for awhile, the other is in his 2nd year. One deserves a wait-and-see, and Meyers is just bad. See how that works? Logic!

 

[stampedehero]

He is really average. Once he gets to Klay Thompson status I will abide.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Vonleh is 19. That doesn't work here.

He's 20. People keep saying he's 19 for some reason...

 

[Strenuus]

He's 20. People keep saying he's 19 for some reason...

He's been 19 for most of his career, so...

 

[handiman]

Vonleh is 19. That doesn't work here.

Meyers makes sense. Stop trying to make the two of them compatible. One has been in the league for awhile, the other is in his 2nd year. One deserves a wait-and-see, and Meyers is just bad. See how that works? Logic!

On the other hand, Vonleh was a much higher rated prospect going into college and again going into the pros. Meyers was supposed to be a loooong term prospect. If anything, he's exceeded expectations. Vonleh certainly has not.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Meyers has specialized in swatting air.

The GOAT in that category.

 

[jlprk]

On the other hand, Vonleh was a much higher rated prospect going into college and again going into the pros. Meyers was supposed to be a loooong term prospect. If anything, he's exceeded expectations. Vonleh certainly has not.

To me, that looks like you typed that Meyers Leonard has exceeded expectations.

This must be my fault. I'll get up early in the morning so I can make an eye appointment. Then I'll head for the store and buy a better monitor.

 

[jlprk]

We gain a few of things when Myers is on the floor like spacing for the guards to work, big man outside shooting, a bit more length in the court..... but considering his position, we lose soooooo much more imo. He needs to be scoring HEAVY to justify his game-style as he has zero interior game, very poor rebounding, very little enforcer style, no intimidation factor and unless he's hanging at the three, very little scoring threat. if he's on the way to being a superstar, then 99.5% of the league is on the same mediocre journey.

unless the Blazers use their brains and hire him a real coach to help him he will be a waste of talent. Sabonis, Olajuwon, McHale, David Robinson or Ewing....someone like that to teach him how to use his natural talents.

Right. The negative exceeds the positive. He couldn't hack it at Center, so now he's a mediocre PF. At his next team, a tough coach will make him bite the bullet at Center. Similarly, Aldridge is currently growing up.

 

[BigGameDamian]

It's kingspeed's other name.

 

[BlayZa]

I'm kind glad Myers is "betting on himself" and turned down the contract, because I've been betting we'll grow to be thankful we didn't sign him up longterm.

If he really thinks he has an elite set of skills and think he can get a contract over what was offered, good luck to him - I hope he has fun on his next team! I doubt the Blazers would have tried to stick him with a completely shit contract but he obviously thinks he can perform and prove enough to warrant more .... wonder what his 'more' is? 8-9-10M a season? I wish that kind of stupidity on LA, Houston, Minny & Miami.

 

[jlprk]

If he leaves and goes Batum, Stotts is gone.

 

[BigGameDamian]

He has a nice shot

 

[VanillaGorilla]

 

[kjironman1]

All of the sudden when the Blazers go small and put him as the center they become a scoring machine. It helps when the entire team hits the boards.

 

[handiman]

The people who have said Meyers needs to play at C, not PF, are probably on to something. It's not so much that he spaces the floor for others, rather that he needs the spacing of another big who can shoot. Meyers is deadly when wide open, but his movements are too mechanical if he has to rush it.

 

[maxiep]

There are really good drugs in Portland.

 

[dviss1]

Has anyone ever gotten a link from a reputable source saying that Neil actually offered him that contract?

Why are we treating this like it really happened? None of us know and should not be holding Neil accountable for something that hasn't been proven to be true.

 

[Sinobas]

The people who have said Meyers needs to play at C, not PF, are probably on to something. It's not so much that he spaces the floor for others, rather that he needs the spacing of another big who can shoot. Meyers is deadly when wide open, but his movements are too mechanical if he has to rush it.

Dude, every watch nba players warm up? Many guys are deadly when left wide open. But there's a little problem in that during the game, you usually have someone playing defense.

 

[Eastoff]

Has anyone ever gotten a link from a reputable source saying that Neil actually offered him that contract?

Why are we treating this like it really happened? None of us know and should not be holding Neil accountable for something that hasn't been proven to be true.

We only know that he turned down a contract.

 

[jlprk]

You don't know whether Olshey tendered a detailed, real contract, or just mentioned an approximate number range in passing by him one day, while simultaneously saying that Leonard would be a starter this year, so he should turn it down.

I think that was the case for all the players we lost. He lost them on purpose, to create a Clipper-style 30-year-rebuilding.

 

[handiman]

Dude, every watch nba players warm up? Many guys are deadly when left wide open. But there's a little problem in that during the game, you usually have someone playing defense.

Dude, Leonard consistently makes his when wide open during games, unlike a lot of players. What the hell was the point of that response?

 

[Sinobas]

Dude, Leonard consistently makes his when wide open during games, unlike a lot of players. What the hell was the point of that response?

Because only being able to make your "wide open" shots really limits your usefulness as a player, because wide open looks are relatively rare. And he's only shooting 31% from 3 on the year, so he's shooting worse than guys like Lillard and CJ that put up more conteseted shots.

It's like Deandre Jordan, sure he shoots a great percentage, but that doesn't mean he's a good offensive player. In fact he's known to be crappy at offense, his percentage is only high because he only takes point blank shots.

 

[kjironman1]

Because only being able to make your "wide open" shots really limits your usefulness as a player, because wide open looks are relatively rare. And he's only shooting 31% from 3 on the year, so he's shooting worse than guys like Lillard and CJ that put up more conteseted shots.

It's like Deandre Jordan, sure he shoots a great percentage, but that doesn't mean he's a good offensive player. In fact he's known to be crappy at offense, his percentage is only high because he only takes point blank shots.

However in the last 5 games he is 16 of 29 from 3 point. Meyers has been on fire since busting out of his slump.

 

[handiman]

Because only being able to make your "wide open" shots really limits your usefulness as a player, because wide open looks are relatively rare.

So, your point about "ever watch players making shots pre-game" was totally pointless?

It's like Deandre Jordan, sure he shoots a great percentage, but that doesn't mean he's a good offensive player. In fact he's known to be crappy at offense, his percentage is only high because he only takes point blank shots.

A 7'er who only dunks is like a 7'er who shoots mostly threes, because they're both selective and shoot high percentages... Didn't anyone tell you that NBA comparisons can't cross racial lines?

 

[SpamKing]

The most frustrating thing about leonard is that he won't shoot a 3 even when he's guarded by some shrimpy point guard . . .

 

[Sinobas]

So, your point about "ever watch players making shots pre-game" was totally pointle

If I thought it were pointless I wouldn't have said it. The ability to hit a wide open jumper is not such a rare skill. If you pass up any shot but wide open jumpers you can get a fg% that is artificially high, just like only shooting point blank. I don't think I can spoon feed it to you any more simply.

 

[riverman]

If I thought it were pointless I wouldn't have said it. The ability to hit a wide open jumper is not such a rare skill. If you pass up any shot but wide open jumpers you can get a fg% that is artificially high, just like only shooting point blank. I don't think I can spoon feed it to you any more simply.

I disagree...look at free throws as an example...nobody guards the 7 footers who can't make them..it's a short set shot. If you have a game on the line who do you want shooting a wide open 3....Meyers, Davis or Plumlee......hands down it's Meyers. I couldn't put it more simply

 

[Sinobas]

I disagree...look at free throws as an example...nobody guards the 7 footers who can't make them..it's a short set shot. If you have a game on the line who do you want shooting a wide open 3....Meyers, Davis or Plumlee......hands down it's Meyers. I couldn't put it more simply

What you're saying here is not disagreeing with anything I said.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]