Meyers season ending shoulder surgery

[BBert]

I totally agree with you, but does Stotts? .

Doesnt seem like it.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Meyers is no Channing Frye, he is much stronger, plays much stronger and is going to be one of our best players. I find it hard to believe they can't fix his shoulder without surgery but that's western medicine for you, have an unneeded surgery that would set you back monthes in recovery, oh well. Back to the subject, Mayers is a big part of our future and not having him for the playoffs probably means no championship for us this year

 

[illmatic99]

Meyers is no Channing Frye, he is much stronger, plays much stronger and is going to be one of our best players. I find it hard to believe they can't fix his shoulder without surgery but that's western medicine for you, have an unneeded surgery that would set you back monthes in recovery, oh well. Back to the subject, Mayers is a big part of our future and not having him for the playoffs probably means no championship for us this year

You'd rather Meyers get acupuncture?

 

[illmatic99]

True.

OTOH, Channing Frye is a pussy.

Meyers has more physical tools. He should use them.

I'm not suggesting Meyers play exclusively under the basket, just that he needs to work on a back to the basket move, a drop step move, and a half-hook to round out his game.

Channing has better footwork than I think Meyers ever will.

 

[riverman]

Where the hell is swish3 on this thread?

 

[BBert]

Channing has better footwork than I think Meyers ever will.

Yeah Meyers isn't super light on his feet, LOL

 

[blue9]

Yeah Meyers isn't super light on his feet, LOL

Could be a perfect time for him to start working on foot work now that his upper body will be immobilized for a while. My feelings are that foot speed isn't something that can get dramatically better - you either have it or you don't. But he could still improve it from SUPER SLOW to just average slow. And even with slow feet, he can learn good foot work - which is more important than foot speed, IMO.

 

[HolyBackboard]

He's going to be out 6-8 months, that's a lot longer than I anticipated.

 

[blue9]

He's going to be out 6-8 months, that's a lot longer than I anticipated.

Gotta wonder if there's some strategy at work with this time table? Maybe to scare other teams off from offering him a large contract? Maybe a little agreement between the team and Meyers: You bet against yourself and it backfired. But don't worry, we've still got your back. We'll rebuild you and give you a fair contract.

 

[noknobs]

Feel bad for the guy, hope he gets better soon and lands a good contract.

 

[Eastoff]

This will give him a chance to work on that 3pt shot in the off season.

nah, now everyday is leg day.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

He's going to have a lot of time on his hands. Where can we send the Walton, Moses Malone, Wes Unseld, Robert Parrish, etc. DVDs for his viewing pleasure?

 

[Draco]

Obviously, we extend QO and retain the opportunity to match....that doesnt cost us anything. Is he a regular rotation player?

I predict he sees offers in the $10-$14M per year range. He's still very young. He has a serious 3PT shot and %. He is a good rebounder.
But he also has limitations that keep him from being a starting level player, let alone a star.

How much $$ would be too much to match?? He's a big and he will get offers for MLE+ type money (whatever that amount is going to be).

I don't understand how so many fans here expect him to be paid $10+ mil per year. Thats totally ridiculous. He hasn't proven to be a backup. He's injured. Even when healthy he has major defensive and offensive limitations. If he is offered anything close to that number let him walk. Maybe he thought he'd get $10+ mil per season before this year happened but he had a horrible season. If I'm a team I only pay that much money to a player with starter upside or a proven quality backup and Meyers is neither.

 

[Draco]

Meyers: Everyone knows you can hit a three. If you want to be somebody in the league, get that big payday and take care of your beautiful wife, it's time to develop a post game. A couple of go to scoring moves around the basket needs to be your primary focus this summer.

I'd also recommend looking up an ex player named Bill Laimbeer. See if he'll work with you for a couple of weeks. There's a lot you can learn from him.

See you next season.

You don't develop an NBA post game in one summer in you're mid 20's. Just as Ed Davis won't become a 3 point shooter in one summer either. It's something that takes a lot longer than that to refine.

 

[illmatic99]

Ed Davis last season at age 26 got 3 years, 20 mil. God, what a fucking steal that deal was. Serious props to NO for locking Ed down.

That might be fair price for Meyers. Maybe 4 for 30.

 

[santeesioux]

Time to let him go, if we sign another center to start, and make Plum the back up, we don't need to pay a third string center 10 plus million.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You want CJ to be injured?!

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

 

[Draco]

We have a glaring hole at starting PF which we know Meyers can't fill. Besides our two guards center is our best position with the Plumlee/Davis duo. We need a starting or backup SF who can create offense as a 3rd scorer when our guards get trapped or overworked. Those stud guards of ours will both be on max contracts a year from now using half our cap space. That leaves half the cap left for 3 starters and 5 backups. We need to use our cap space first for the most critical needs of our roster. Meyers doesn't fill any major holes this roster has.

 

[Natebishop3]

Feel bad for the guy, hope he gets better soon and lands a good contract.

What has he realistically done to earn a good contract?

 

[Blazinaway]

What has he realistically done to earn a good contract?

the hardest thing to determine with the crazy cap increases is what the heck is a "good" or even "fair" contract these days. IMO Meters is not worth more than 5 mil a season but with so much money available and so many teams having a lot of cap he could easily get 10 mil per which would be a travesty IMO

 

[BlayZa]

i dont wish ill on anyone...... BUT

im 100% not mad about this at all

prolly should have taken that contract huh

 

[dviss1]

Time to let him go, if we sign another center to start, and make Plum the back up, we don't need to pay a third string center 10 plus million.

 

[dviss1]

Time to let him go, if we sign another center to start, and make Plum the back up, we don't need to pay a third string center 10 plus million.

Yes.

Yes I DID double post this...

What...

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

This will be a fun thread to re-visit in July!! I stand by my prediction.

I don't understand how many posters don't think that owners will use the additional cap space as a spending spree!!

 

[kjironman1]

The Spurs are gonna pick him up and turn him into Hakeem.

David Robinson!

 

[KingSpeed]

What has he realistically done to earn a good contract?

He's been one of the best bench big men in the league, that's all.

 

[chzbrgr]

He's been one of the best bench big men in the league, that's all.

hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah

 

[Draco]

This will be a fun thread to re-visit in July!! I stand by my prediction.

I don't understand how many posters don't think that owners will use the additional cap space as a spending spree!!

Oh I think they will spend most of it.

First there will be a bunch of max or near max guys; Ryan Anderson, Dwight, Barnes, Batum, Conley, Parsons, DeRozan, Drummond, Beal, LeBron, Durant, Horford, Evan Fournier, Jordan Clarkson are in that group. The next group is Kent Bazemore, Courtney Lee, Whiteside, Deron Williams, Pau Gasol, Dirk, Marvin Williams who all get $10-15 million+. Crabbe may be in that second group.

Other free agents I'd rank ahead of Meyers; Terrence Jones, Dontas Montejunas, Eric Gordon, Jared Sullinger, Festus Ezeli, Ian Mahimi, Gerald Henderson, David Lee, Brandon Bass, Mirza Teletovic, Rajon Rondo, Boban Marjonovic, Bismack Biyombo, Terrence Ross, Jared Dudley, and the old Duncan, Ginobili.

I might rank Mo Harkless ahead of Meyers, depends what happens the rest of the season. Harkless can't shoot but does everything else great. Meyers can shoot but does everything else wrong. Harkless is younger. I'd lean towards Harkless but wouldn't break the bank on either.

Once you add up all those contracts teams cap space won't be as plentiful. Yeah there will still be money out there but teams won't waste it on players without starter upside or proven backup production. NBA teams also know they will have to pay their current contracted players much more when their contracts end and in two years the cap starts going down. NBA GM's and management are much smarter than a decade ago. Back then it was a bunch of car lot owners and family business. Now its teams of hedge fund owners with dozens of full time elite scouts and analytics personnel on staff.

Yes we will see. I will be surprised if Meyers earns $10+ million. If he does I hope its from some other team.

 

[julius]

If the team had to pick between Harkelss and Meyers, I'd hope the team would decide to take Harkless

 

[Draco]

If the team had to pick between Harkelss and Meyers, I'd hope the team would decide to take Harkless

Yeah his shooting can be an issue. I'm not sure of his attitude either. He seems disgruntled when he doesn't get playing time. Some of that is good as you want guys competing hard but it could instead be an indicator of a player with major future attitude problems. There were lots of not so nice rumors about him in Orlando too. Meyers has a great attitude. I'll trust Neil's judgement on that.

I feel like we've seen so much of Meyers and its always been the two bad things for one good thing with him. Almost as many question marks as when we first saw him 4 years ago. We haven't seen as much from Harkless so he's more of an unknown which is intriguing.