Miami Heat Dame Trade Ideas and Rumors (1 Viewer)

[wizenheimer]

That's tampering.

I don't think so

player agents have always been the obvious grey area in all these tampering rules. Teams can't talk to players under contract to another team. But the NBA does not have the power to restrict what an agent says to GM's

 

[illmatic99]

That's tampering.

Is it? Agents are usually exempt.

Just unscrupulous. Goodwin interfering in team negotiations all after we gave his client a supermax, gave another injured client a deal no one was offering, and signed a guy who couldn't hang in Romania to two different NBA deals.

Ungrateful bitch.

 

[Natebishop3]

Fuck that, then don't sign the extension.

Dame is frugal. No way he leaves that money on the table. That's why I tend to think this is all just a play because I don't believe for a second that Dame would sit out. And I think once he could only sign that super max with us, he was stuck with us until this summer.

 

[LayneStaley]

If we get 2 1s 3-5 years from now, Herro and Duncan the entire league will laugh at us.

 

[Chris Craig]

I don't think so

player agents have always been the obvious grey area in all these tampering rules. Teams can't talk to players under contract to another team. But the NBA does not have the power to restrict what an agent says to GM's

It should be.

 

[illmatic99]

Remind me not to give a damn about giving favors to agents next time.

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

If it’s Miami, Jovic, Jaquez, Martin and 3 unprotected picks and 2 pick swaps — along with the returns for Herro to a 3rd team.

The 2027-28 season puts Lillard at 37. Butler at 38. Will Miami be able to build and backfill well enough around Bam? Miami rarely has crappy enough years to make the picks and pick swaps valuable. It’s not a great bet compared to getting the picks of routinely crappy teams.

 

[Natebishop3]

Remind me not to give a damn about giving favors to agents next time.

Didn't we hook up Aaron Goodwin on that deal for GPII?

This is why I have always said it's horse shit.

 

[illmatic99]

Didn't we hook up Aaron Goodwin on that deal for GPII?

This is why I have always said it's horse shit.

Thats what i referenced earlier. Gp2weeks, Blevins, etc.

 

[RonBrewer]

Sounds to me like Goodwin and Dame are nervous. They don't really have anymore plays to make here. Tell them to get on their knees and Blow, Joe!

 

[blazerkor]

I really don't care about any of it and I don't think most GMs think that Dame would do anything but come into their team and be the model teammate. Let Dame's people do what they want. It's business at this point and I don't blame them. I definitely want Joe to do what's right for the team and not worry about Dame. I don't think I should expect anything different from Dame's camp.

Dame is doing what extremely successful people do, he has set a goal and is doing everything he can to attain it. Oh well. It definitely isn't doing us any favors on the way out but I have no idea what Dame thinks or what he experienced that led to this. If he thinks Joe is a snake and was lying to him the whole time that would make sense to me and that would make all of these tactics make sense to me as well.

I'll probably never know who is really at fault here, it tends to be shared blame usually. I wish the situation wasn't getting so ugly and I definitely want us to get the most possible for Dame. What I want most of all is for this to be behind us so I can start getting excited for the team that we'll actually have going forward.

 

[Blazinaway]

Dame is looking like a major bitch. KD the snake didn’t even do this 1 team shit. Why spend 10 years building up ur rep/brand to ruin it in 3 weeks? Oh yeah…money.

Hmmm, he's got the money regardless. Now it seems more about EGO/winning at all costs.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Hmmm, he's got the money regardless. Now it seems more about EGO/winning at all costs.

I mean if I was a guy (lol) getting divorced I'd wanna go to Miami for my first year as a bachelor since high school.

 

[Blazinaway]

No, for a trophy. I hope when he gets it, if he does, in that moment, he remembers how he fucked us, and decided to coattail ride, that it feels less worthy to have won it.

I hope he NEVER wins a title after this - karma and poetic justice and all that.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

Dame is doing what he thinks is best for him and I remind you this front office decided to turn this ugly first by lying to him and such so he is just playing the game with the rules they set up if they do not like it they should have played fairly with Dame in the first place. I will say it again screw Jody Allen and this management team cause it's there fault we are in the mess so blame them not Dame -- FACTS

 

[blazerkor]

Sounds to me like Goodwin and Dame are nervous. They don't really have anymore plays to make here. Tell them to get on their knees and Blow, Joe!

I think they understand that they have very limited power here and have played every card that Dame is willing to play. The spitefulness isn't necessary in my opinion but you do you. Joe just needs to get the best deal he can, that's it. For me, still, preferably to a place where Dame can win. If I was a team that wasn't trying to win now then I wouldn't make an offer for Dame anyway unless I thought I could turn around and flip him better than Joe can.

Soon all of this drama will be behind us. Dame will put out some kind of huge show of gratitude for the city and the fans and he will likely conspicuously leave out the team. Then we can all move on.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Dame is doing what he thinks is best for him and I remind you this front office decided to turn this ugly first by lying to him and such so he is just playing the game with the rules they set up if they do not like it they should have played fairly with Dame in the first place. I will say it again screw Jody Allen and this management team cause it's there fault we are in the mess so blame them not Dame -- FACTS

Not facts

 

[Everything Beagle]

Dame is doing what he thinks is best for him and I remind you this front office decided to turn this ugly first by lying to him and such so he is just playing the game with the rules they set up if they do not like it they should have played fairly with Dame in the first place. I will say it again screw Jody Allen and this management team cause it's there fault we are in the mess so blame them not Dame -- FACTS

Business is business. These are two corporations going at it; it's just one of them trades on the personality of a single person, and thus seems more human.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction

Don't carry water for corporations, even if they have a human face.

 

[blazerkor]

Dame is doing what he thinks is best for him and I remind you this front office decided to turn this ugly first by lying to him and such so he is just playing the game with the rules they set up if they do not like it they should have played fairly with Dame in the first place. I will say it again screw Jody Allen and this management team cause it's there fault we are in the mess so blame them not Dame -- FACTS

I think there is blame to share but if Joe were more competent at attaining the goals that he stated publicly or maybe if he were more honest if that's the way you want to look at it. This shit wouldn't be ugly right now. He said one thing and did another for a year and a half and that started six months after Dame publicly said we needed to be more urgent about winning now. I don't get why so many people can't understand why Dame would put the screws to this front office but oh well.

That being said, Dame has no power here. Joe can trade him wherever he wants to. Dame's agent hasn't even said he won't report or that he would sit or anything like that. So Joe still just gets to make the best deal he can make... I don't have a lot of faith in him but I'm hopeful we can get something close to a fair return.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

It is the facts -- Mediocre show me it's not the facts or shut up

Every move this front office has done has be the exact opposite of what they told Dame and even the media and fan base and again that is the truth and no matter how much you and others want to white wash it does not make it less true.

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

If the Lillard side of this gets one iota uglier on destination, that’s on him. Agents going against client wishes aren’t agents for long — especially when the money is already settled. I’ve been over Lillard not being a Blazer after 48 hours. Olshey failed miserably in building a team to contend. Fired.

Cronin has cleaned up aisle 15, but he hasn’t gotten the roster built to win now. Maybe he made the right move to go young and hope Lillard stuck around long enough to swing the deal(s). I don’t like that conclusion, but it may be the most reasonable idea.

Drexler wasn’t my favorite Blazer on his teams. Neither was Walton. Not during and less so after. Lillard was during his 11 years. I’d really like to see Lillard handle this well.

 

[BBert]

I'm not sure what to believe anymore... @Mediocre Man is strongly hinting that a deal could be announced at any point and we'll be unhappy with it.

Media messaging seems to be projecting an extended timeline for this thing. Those two seem just about perfectly diametrically opposed to each other...

Not *exactly* diametrically opposed.

In both scenarios, we get fucked.

And not in a good way.

 

[Fitz303]

It is the facts -- Mediocre show me it's not the facts or shut up

Every move this front office has done has be the exact opposite of what they told Dame and even the media and fan base and again that is the truth and no matter how much you and others want to white wash it does not make it less true.

How is it fact? Tell me the deals that were on the table, that the Blazers should have made, but turned down, thus lying to Dame, in the last few weeks, or shut up. See how that works?

 

[blazerkor]

It is the facts -- Mediocre show me it's not the facts or shut up

Every move this front office has done has be the exact opposite of what they told Dame and even the media and fan base and again that is the truth and no matter how much you and others want to white wash it does not make it less true.

I actually don't think that's how it works. If you are claiming FACTS you have to show their concrete veracity... not the guy who is inferring that they are not facts but your opinion. I think they are your opinion and one that you have a right to. I think other people in this forum have a right to very different opinions. When so much of this, in fact every meaningful part of it, was conducted behind closed doors we have very little FACTS unfortunately.

 

[B-Roy]

Honestly, I didn't even think Dame would be this spiteful. This is not his agent. His agent wouldn't be doing this if Dame wasn't behind it.

 

[BBert]

An actual quote from Goodwin.



This is just shameless really. What is that idiom about not biting the hand that feeds you again?

So Dame and his agent are under the impression that he's a free agent. Idiots.

Except that Dame's agent is forcefully telling other teams Dame doesn't want to play for them either, just like he doesn't want to play for the Blazers, and it would be a mistake for them to trade for him.

This shit is fucked up and we are the ones getting fucked up.

Dame can fuck all the way off at this point.

 

[blazerkor]

Honestly, I didn't even think Dame would be this spiteful. This is not his agent. His agent wouldn't be doing this if Dame wasn't behind it.

I agree, Dame obviously must feel a certain way about how Joe handled this whole thing. I think what gets misplaced is who Dame is being spiteful towards. I guarantee it's not us. I get being disappointed that he doesn't realize that there is collateral damage but with that said I'll say this again... this is Dame's life, it's our hobby.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

It is the facts -- Mediocre show me it's not the facts or shut up

Every move this front office has done has be the exact opposite of what they told Dame and even the media and fan base and again that is the truth and no matter how much you and others want to white wash it does not make it less true.

It is absolutely baffling how you haven't figured out how to respond to someone's post. Look how easy it is, I just did it.

 

[BBert]

Dame is doing what he thinks is best for him and I remind you this front office decided to turn this ugly first by lying to him and such so he is just playing the game with the rules they set up if they do not like it they should have played fairly with Dame in the first place. I will say it again screw Jody Allen and this management team cause it's there fault we are in the mess so blame them not Dame -- FACTS

I am so sick and tired of hearing how the Blazers lied to Dame. Bullshit. I've yet to see any evidence of that. And what do you call what Dame did when he signed his extension then demanded to be traded at the first opportunity? But Dame is a mistreated Saint and Cronin is a mustache-twirling evil-doer. Sure.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

Cronin came out after the season and said they would trade the draft pick no matter what it was outside of the 1st pick to Dame and he said this in a press conference look it up but again facts. Then they promised Dame after they drafted Scoot and co they would make a splash on day one of FA -- THEY DID NOT. This is just two of the most recent examples on how they lied to Dame but i will add another one even though you will not believe it. They asked Dame to sit out so they could get better odds which leads into my first point so tell me HOW they did not lie to Dame.

I am curious how you silly people will turn these facts into false facts -- hell you all should go work for Trump the king of BS spin cause you all are doing great and turning this into Dame's fault when he has little to none.