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Natebishop3 said:
We're not.

If we HAVE to deal with Miami, I want everything not nailed down. Jovic, Jaquez, Martin, and I think we should wait for Robinson. Are any of them stars? No, but I think at least Robinson could be a rotation backup center. I'm not convinced that Jovic or Jaquez are even good enough to get minutes on our crappy rebuilding team.
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We are. You just don't realize it.
 
Orlando is a interesting prospect but if he was so good then the Heat would lock him up long term ( 2 to 3 yr ) deal for a reasonable amount the fact they have not should say something. I am not saying he might not be good or maybe just needs more then limited minutes that the Heat would give him but for every Hassan Whiteside story someone who stuck out early then blossomed there are the Harry Giles that never really make it even though they show flashes.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
Orlando is a interesting prospect but if he was so good then the Heat would lock him up long term ( 2 to 3 yr ) deal for a reasonable amount the fact they have not should say something. I am not saying he might not be good or maybe just needs more then limited minutes that the Heat would give him but for every Hassan Whiteside story someone who stuck out early then blossomed there are the Harry Giles that never really make it even though they show flashes.
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They signed him before Summer League and then he had a really good summer league. I suspect if he was still a free agent after summer league, dude would have gotten more money.
 
but let's be real it was summer league -- again not saying he might not be a solid pick up just urging people not to read too much into SL play. He was released 3 times last year by the Heat and NO ONE picked him up now maybe they tried and he knew they would come back around and he told other teams thanks but no thanks but still we have no idea.
 
Replying here so I don't derail the roster thread;

Natebishop3 said:
So based on the fact that we have three spot, and obviously Dame would be going out, we could take back Lowry, Jovic, Jaquez and maybe Martin along with their picks.

Jaquez is tradeable in several days.
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Gosh if we can't even get Herro in the trade..... I mean yeah we would have too many guards but I still think its much better to have him than Lowry expiring;

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Yeah lets say we get Herro instead of Lowry;

Scoot Sharpe
Ant Thybulle
Herro Martin
Grant Murray Walker
Nurk Jovic

Can't see how that lineup makes sense. Who knows, only constant we've had from Cronin taking over as well as his time under Neil is always have more GUARDS than are needed.

Even if we wanted to do a deal straight up with Miami we basically have to get a 3rd team involved just to match salaries up and keep them out of the 2nd apron.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
but I still think its much better to have him than Lowry expiring;
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I think you reroute Herro elsewhere for a pick, get Lowry's expiring, and then send Portland Jaquez and potentially a pick from Martin.

Don't care about Orlando Robinson, Jovic or Highsmith.
 
Samuel said:
I think you reroute Herro elsewhere for a pick, get Lowry's expiring, and then send Portland Jaquez and potentially a pick from Martin.

Don't care about Orlando Robinson, Jovic or Highsmith.
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Robinson can't be traded until December. I only put Highsmith in to match salaries. Jovic I would rather have than not but he's the 7th valued piece coming back so not critical.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Replying here so I don't derail the roster thread;



Gosh if we can't even get Herro in the trade..... I mean yeah we would have too many guards but I still think its much better to have him than Lowry expiring;

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I was still assuming that Herro would go out for a pick, but honestly I have no idea who at this point....
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Robinson can't be traded until December. I only put Highsmith in to match salaries. Jovic I would rather have than not but he's the 7th valued piece coming back so not critical.
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My issue with Jovic is I don't know if he has upside for a legit marketable NBA skill. Can't shoot yet, can't play defense yet. Seems to have okay movement for a big, but that's about it. I'd be fine with a placeholder big or two this season and drafting a couple next summer vs. investing development minutes and energy into Jovic. (I do get that there will be a lot of scratcher fliers over the next few years—I'd prefer to get those as cast offs vs. in the context of a Dame trade where we're trying to extract maximum value).
 
Samuel said:
My issue with Jovic is I don't know if he has upside for a legit marketable NBA skill. Can't shoot yet, can't play defense yet. Seems to have okay movement for a big, but that's about it. I'd be fine with a placeholder big or two this season and drafting a couple next summer vs. investing development minutes and energy into Jovic. (I do get that there will be a lot of scratcher fliers over the next few years—I'd prefer to get those as cast offs vs. in the context of a Dame trade where we're trying to extract maximum value).
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I'm not sure on Jovic at all either. But I haven't written his future off completely. He's young enough and has enough flashes to maybe do something eventually.

Jovic basically is a cast off in a Dame trade. If we don't get him what asset do we get instead? Miami just doesn't really have other assets to throw in.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I'm not sure on Jovic at all either. But I haven't written his future off completely. He's young enough and has enough flashes to maybe do something eventually.

Jovic basically is a cast off in a Dame trade. If we don't get him what asset do we get instead? Miami just doesn't really have other assets to throw in.
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I’d rather get/reroute Martin and send him to a team he’d be interested in re-signing with for either a draft pick or a young player.

and if you say ‘I want jovic ‘and’ martin ‘and’ Jaquez’ I’d say ‘okay I’ll take jovic’; I don’t get the impression Miami has put much of anything on the table at this point, even though their max offer requires a lot of creativity to become palatable.
 
Samuel said:
I’d rather get/reroute Martin and send him to a team he’d be interested in re-signing with for either a draft pick or a young player.

and if you say ‘I want jovic ‘and’ martin ‘and’ Jaquez’ I’d say ‘okay I’ll take jovic’; I don’t get the impression Miami has put much of anything on the table at this point, even though their max offer requires a lot of creativity to become palatable.
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I'd rather have a pick than any of martin/Jovic/vasquez. None of them are great prospects or fits. I think when I threw up the proposal it was only two teams just for simplicity.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Florida?
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This reminds me of that old Google game where you type in Florida man and let it autocomplete and hilarity ensued.

"Florida Man with a poor grasp of the English language, the memory of a gnat, the research skills of a paint-huffing Zoomer, and a room temperature IQ, somehow has wherewithal to log on to the internet and say stuff".
 
Unless you have a few hundred mil there is no reason to ever live in florida.
 
Cugel said:
Unless you have a few hundred mil there is no reason to ever live in florida.
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Great weather, amusement parks, beaches and restaurants. No income tax. It's a great state to live in.

Sure they got a bunch of nutjobs in the government. I wouldn't say local Portland leaders are immune to that stupidity though.
 
Cugel said:
Unless you have a few hundred mil there is no reason to ever live in florida.
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I would live there if I was worth even a million or so, or if my income was about twice or three times what it currently is. No state income tax, amazing weather, beautiful beaches, and if I was single the whole throngs of gorgeous women thing wouldn't hurt. Lots to like about Florida, especially if you are a business owner.
 
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What we need to start talking about, is if Miami wants Dame that bad, why not give us back close to equal value, which would be Bam.

Dame and Nurk for Bam, Lowry for salary reasons and some picks or a couple young players.

If the Heat offered something like this, I'm sure Dame would be in Miami already
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Great weather, amusement parks, beaches and restaurants. No income tax. It's a great state to live in.

Sure they got a bunch of nutjobs in the government. I wouldn't say local Portland leaders are immune to that stupidity though.
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And hurricanes…. And it’s gonna be under water when the ice caps melt.
 
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