Miami Heat Dame Trade Ideas and Rumors

[kjironman1]

every time someone does a recap like this of all of Olshey’s mistakes, it makes me sick all over again. What a wasted decade.

It starts with that Roy Hibbert (Dodged a Bullet) offer. Then cuts a little deeper knowing what we now know about Enes.
If you add in Firing Kim Hughes for telling the truth it can actually make you nauseous faster...

 

[kjironman1]

Those are just two examples. I'm not about piling on the guy while his kid is going through some medical problems.
But I'll take Dame over Lebron every time.

Every. Single. Time.

Prime Lillard vs Prime LeBron?
As a center piece on a team?
No I take Lebron on every level. Sorry.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Prime Lillard vs Prime LeBron?
As a center piece on a team?
No I take Lebron on every level. Sorry.

That's okay.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Chris Craig]

He's under contract. He will have to wait. Another player, not even a star player alienating a fan base and trying to push his way out. Not good for the league.

 

[PCmor7]

Send all these guys to Detroit!

 

[KingSpeed]

Send all these guys to Detroit!

If Cade is healthy, Detroit may be good this year.

 

[blazerfan11]

If Cade is healthy, Detroit may be good this year.

That's why a Dame trade has to wait.
There is zero motivation, even by the team that finished in last place, to give up much for Dame, before the season starts.

 

[RonBrewer]

LMAO. Who TF does Marcus Morris think he is? That's like Trendon W. loving the idea of teaming up with Nikola in Denver.

Morris....LMFAO.

 

[RonBrewer]

 

[Cugel]

No the fans don’t care if Lillard gets a chance. I only care about making the team BETTER. Sorry Terry

 

[Phatguysrule]

No the fans don’t care if Lillard gets a chance. I only care about making the team BETTER. Sorry Terry

Agreed. I love Terry, but I disagree with him on this.

I'll be happy if Dame winds up in a good situation, but not as happy as I'll be if we get good value out of his desire to leave.

 

[Idog1976]

Nonsense. I'm so pissed at Goodwin, and by extension his client who hasn't fired him, that I could care less where Dame ends up. Sure, if we can send him to a contender and it's a wash (other than Miami, because FUCK MIAMI!) then sure trade him to the contender. If at the mid-season mark when we finally trade Dame it's to a team that's trying to make the playoffs and we get a huge haul, I do that instantly without a second thought. Sorry Dame, but your agent's behavior, which you continue to cosign by not firing his ass, has burned up your brand and any "loyalty card" you thought you had.

Do this behind closed doors and name 3-4 contenders and you'd already be on a new team with your brand intact, but no, you got greedy because $450 million wasn't enough. You had to publicly and repeatedly say just one specific team already tanking your value, but then you also have your agent poison the well with 28 other teams. You want Miami? Well too bad, you can go to Minneapolis or Detroit for all I care. I couldn't care less about seeing Dame on a contender.

When I realized he was being traded on draft night, I was all about Dame being on a contender and seeing him hoist a trophy...then the horror began. Even Drexler left with more class than this, far more. Jesus. And lets not kid ourselves if he had a career ending injury halfway through the Miami season, he'd have his jersey in the HOF be a Heat Jersey. Isn't that crystal clear by now? It is to me.

 

[Whyachi]

If Cade is healthy, Detroit may be good this year.

oh they'll be bad. Coach Monty needs a pick, then work on trading Jaden Ivey.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Just How High Is Tyler Herro’s Ceiling?

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Bingo Bango]

Excuse me if this has been discussed, but are the Heat offering their own picks, or ones they’ve acquired? Because if it’s the former, it’s a bad deal for Portland. The addition of Lillard should make Miami one of the best teams in the league, which means their first round picks for the next few years are going to be toward the end of the first round, and not where the difference makers are found.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Excuse me if this has been discussed before, but are the Heat offering their own picks or ones they’ve acquired? Because if it’s the former, it’s a bad deal for Portland. The addition of Lillard should make Miami one of the best teams in the league, which means their first round picks for the next few years are going to be toward the end of the first round, and not where the difference makers are found.

Yep, it has been discussed....a lot

 

[Bingo Bango]

Yep, it has been discussed....a lot

So what’s the answer?

 

[Pinwheel1]

So what’s the answer?

A lot of different answers. But 2 of the picks are years away....when Miami might not be as good.
One might be sooner but still might be ok if Miami "manages minutes". Look at their pick in June while making the finals. Their pick was # 18

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Excuse me if this has been discussed before, but are the Heat offering their own picks, or ones they’ve acquired? Because if it’s the former, it’s a bad deal for Portland. The addition of Lillard should make Miami one of the best teams in the league, which means their first round picks for the next few years are going to be toward the end of the first round, and not where the difference makers are found.

So what’s the answer?

A lot of different answers. But 2 of the picks are years away....when Miami might not be as good.
One might be sooner but still might be ok if Miami "manages minutes". Look at their pick in June while making the finals. Their pick was # 18

Really, the only picks of their own that they can presently offer are '28 and '30; their '25/'26 picks are encumbered by their OKC trade, and thus their '24 and '27 are unavailable as well unless they make some other arrangement with the Thunder.

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Just How High Is Tyler Herro’s Ceiling?
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Still better than Simons.

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Really, the only picks of their own that they can presently offer are '28 and '30; their '25/'26 picks are encumbered by their OKC trade, and thus their '24 and '27 are unavailable as well unless they make some other arrangement with the Thunder.

It doesn't necessarily HAVE to be the Thunder.

If Miami can be guaranteed a pick in '25 (even if it is #30 that year) - that would free up the '24 pick and allow the '26 to be a conditional pick (reverting to Miami's '25 if the '26 goes to OKC).

 

[blazerfan11]

Tyler Herro


Anfernee Simons

 

[blazerfan11]

Tyler Herro



Anfernee Simons

 

[PtldPlatypus]

It doesn't necessarily HAVE to be the Thunder.

If Miami can be guaranteed a pick in '25 (even if it is #30 that year) - that would free up the '24 pick and allow the '26 to be a conditional pick (reverting to Miami's '25 if the '26 goes to OKC).

True enough

 

[andalusian]

Still better than Simons.

I actually do not believe that. I do not believe TH can be a first guard / PG on a sub-par team, Simons can, imho.

Does not matter, they are not that far apart and the Blazers already have this position covered for less money...

 

[blazerkor]

I read that Detroit is one of the teams that likes Herro. So this is a trade that I would be cool with:
-We send Dame and Nurk to Miami and a second round pick (the worst of the two that we will get in the upcoming draft) to Detroit.
-Miami sends Lowry, Jaquez, Jovic and their 2024, 2028 and 2030 FRPs to us and they send Herro to Detroit.
-In two separate but contingent trades Detroit sends us Joe Harris and Jalen Duren.
(Harris would be part of the three team trade but can't be aggregated with another player from his team going out so the second round pick for Duren would officially be a separate trade, if the trade goes down after 9/4 then it could all just be one deal)

For Dame and Nurk we get Lowry who is totally the right type of pro to teach all of the young guys on this team the ropes. More importantly we get three first round picks and we get Duren, Jovic, and Jaquez. At the trade deadline we would see who is interested in Lowry and Jerami and maybe even Joe, in order to get more picks, prospects and if we have to take on a bad contract that would be fine at this point.

I also read that the Raptors are interested in Herro. I think from the Raptors we should be able to get Dick, Achiuwa and the expiring contracts of Porter and Young who we would probably have to waive just because we won't have enough roster spots.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I read that Detroit is one of the teams that likes Herro. So this is a trade that I would be cool with:
-We send Dame and Nurk to Miami and a second round pick (the worst of the two that we will get in the upcoming draft) to Detroit.
-Miami sends Lowry, Jaquez, Jovic and their 2024, 2028 and 2030 FRPs to us and they send Herro to Detroit.
-In two separate but contingent trades Detroit sends us Joe Harris and Jalen Duren.
(Harris would be part of the three team trade but can't be aggregated with another player from his team going out so the second round pick for Duren would officially be a separate trade, if the trade goes down after 9/4 then it could all just be one deal)

For Dame and Nurk we get Lowry who is totally the right type of pro to teach all of the young guys on this team the ropes. More importantly we get three first round picks and we get Duren, Jovic, and Jaquez. At the trade deadline we would see who is interested in Lowry and Jerami and maybe even Joe, in order to get more picks, prospects and if we have to take on a bad contract that would be fine at this point.

I also read that the Raptors are interested in Herro. I think from the Raptors we should be able to get Dick, Achiuwa and the expiring contracts of Porter and Young who we would probably have to waive just because we won't have enough roster spots.

Would love to get Duren. If not, I would take Wiseman plus a 1st.

 

[Bingo Bango]

A lot of different answers. But 2 of the picks are years away....when Miami might not be as good.
One might be sooner but still might be ok if Miami "manages minutes". Look at their pick in June while making the finals. Their pick was # 18

I don’t want picks that are “years away,” or even the 18th pick—and neither should Portland. The Blazers have to get more than that for Lillard.