Microfracture for Oden

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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Specific targets please. I think packaging Batum + expiring can really help us out. I wonder if Andre Miller + Rudy + picks can get Devin Harris from the nets.
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I think trading Batum is a mistake, as I believe his potential is higher than the value we could get in return.

Devin Harris is not worth as much as your trade suggests, in my opinion. He's 27 years old, and is less effective than Andre Miller. But you could always hope he pulls a Nash and gets better as he ages.
 
Trading Miller and Joel? Sure. Camby? For the right price, OK. I can see how this season is a wash, and we need more pieces.

Trading Oden and Batum? That's silly. Oden is going to be cheap to retain and still (IMO) has a future in the NBA (even if it's distant). Batum is the kind of piece that you want to draft, not trade away so you can draft someone like him.

There's no reason to think that a rebuild has to be all the way down to the studs (or giving the studs away).

Ed O.
 
Elvin Jones said:
I am not a doctor, but I am close to a man who is one. He also happens to be a Blazer fan.

His very informal diagnosis is that "Oden is fucked. He seems to have something genetically wrong with him, maybe a touch of gigantism or something, and it shows in his face."
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That was the most depressing press conference I've ever seen. Gotta' feel for the training staff. Jay fighting back tears was tough to watch. Greg will probably give it another shot because he's so young, but man you gotta' wonder if this guys body just isn't cut out for professional basketball.
 
Wow...this thread is in the future?!? This is trippy...Im in a time warp...fucking Bynum
 
DaRizzle said:
Im in a time warp...fucking Bynum
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Well, if that's what makes the two of you happy, there's nothing wrong with that.

barfo
 
just another blazerday in blazerland.

im not even phased by this shit anymore, roy will be next - it's gonna happen - how can it not?

ill never stop supporting the team but holy fuckin bejesus, it may be time to just admit defeat with this group, trade out everything we can (that makes some kind of sense) and re-tool with a different dynamic.

hope. destroying. news.
 
"Why?" That's the first word I can think of right now as a fan. Following that Jail Blazer era, I got a lift over the last few years. There have been some tough moments, especially last season, but now the awful luck is almost too much to be believable. You look back and see Walton and Bowie, but those were just a couple of guys. I don't know how the morale is in the locker room after all this, but my morale with this team has had about as much as it can take. I support you Blazers. I'm watching games. But I don't know how to keep my spirits up.
 
Ed O said:
Very sad for all of us.

Very very sad for Oden.

I'm not giving up on him just yet. This year? He's clearly out. But he's still a young man and there's still a pretty good chance that he'll turn out to be a special player.

We just will have had to wait a LONG time to see it. :(

Ed O.
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Oden's still our best chance for NBA greatness. Gambling on him is still better than rebuilding with our current assets. It gets sadder and sadder everytime I say it.
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I concur.

Maybe I'm a stubborn guy, or just plain stupid, but let's not give up on Oden just yet. We've already stuck with him this long, we might as well wait once more for Oden's return. It's not like we can get much value for him anyway. I want to see Oden finally succeed and in a Blazers uniform, doggonit!
 
Maybe I'm a stubborn guy, or just plain stupid, but let's not give up on Oden just yet. We've already stuck with him this long, we might as well wait once more for Oden's return. It's not like we can get much value for him anyway. I want to see Oden finally succeed and in a Blazers uniform, doggonit!
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^Yuup!
 
I was busy last night and missed the news.

My only response is, "you've got to be freakin' kidding."
 
I feel really bad for Greg the person, and Greg the basketball player. He seems like a great kid who deserves much better than this.
 
Sabonis didn't join the Blazers until he was 31. Oden is 22.

I'll wait 10 years if I have to. I'll live with Roy, Aldridge, Batum, Oden, even Nate struggling, scrapping, for the playoffs every year. I love this team man. I won't give up on this team.
 
I, for one, still believe in Greg Oden. He's still only 22. He still has 10+ seasons of basketball left in him. Other players have been able to overcome numerous injuries to become outstanding players (Grant Hill and Kenyon Martin come to mind). But I'm not even close to being ready to jump on the "he's done, trade him, he'll never play" bandwagon that 90%+ of Blazer fans have jumped on. Again, he's just too young...he's twenty fucking two. Maybe if he were, say, 30+ then I might, but not at 22. Although this is bad, what would be even worse is seeing Greg crush the Blazers while wearing a Lakers uniform (or any other), and I absolutely 100% can see that happening if we let him go.
 
He's young but these injuries are going to take a toll on his athletic ability. Two MF surgeries on top of the patella injury, come on!

I thought he would come back and develop into somebody like Emeka Okafor but now I think he's closer to Vitaly Potapenko.
 
Ed O said:
Very sad for all of us.

Very very sad for Oden.

I'm not giving up on him just yet. This year? He's clearly out. But he's still a young man and there's still a pretty good chance that he'll turn out to be a special player.

We just will have had to wait a LONG time to see it. :(

Ed O.
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You and I share the same view. It seems to be a minority one on this board.
 
maxiep said:
Why? What makes this surgery different?
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Mornin Maxie, I hold out hope but what bothers me is how easily injured he is. I mean the first MF they have no idea how it happened and the second was no contact just going through drills. So here are two serious articular cartilage injuries happening with virtually no wear and tear of a regular season or a contact related injury. It's really hard for me to think that once he starts playing again more injuries won't keep happening. I want to "believe" differently but based upon what's transpired it very hard to do that.
 
Denny Crane said:
I was busy last night and missed the news.

My only response is, "you've got to be freakin' kidding."
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Well, I hope you deal with that fucking tool Master Shake. His conduct was uncalled for, especially given his position as a Moderator.
 
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