Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

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crandc said:
Despite whatever intelligence failures, after October 7 the world's sympathy was with Israel, as it was with US after 9/11. And like the US, Israel squandered that goodwill with assault on Gaza and the slaughter of civilians including children. Putting hostages in greater danger.
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Well there goes any chance you had of moving to Israel.
 
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This whole thing was so unnecessary.

It basically comes back to our president having the maturity of a 2-year-old. He was hurt that Obama roasted him at a press corps dinner and is using the country and the presidency to settle the score ever since.

Unless everyone was duped, the Iran nuclear deal had worked. Trump got rid of it for no reason other than a petty grudge. One thing leads to another. Bibi plays his ego like a fiddle. Trump bombs Iran.

Trump will almost certainly never feel any effects from the consequences of his actions. He has no empathy with his country people. A lot of Americans, though, might have their lives changed by this. They might lose a friend or family member in a suicide attack. Maybe we bolster our troop levels abroad and someone we know is shipped halfway across the world to protect our bases in places like Oman. Maybe the Iranians have some success bottling up the Straits of Hormuz and gas prices rise here and some single mother finds food insecurity a little bit of a bigger problem than it was yesterday.

All because we elected a guy who couldn't take a joke because the myth that adult men were playing girls' sports worried us more than this guy screwing up again just like he did the first time we elected him.
 
PCmor7 said:
This whole thing was so unnecessary.

It basically comes back to our president having the maturity of a 2-year-old. He was hurt that Obama roasted him at a press corps dinner and is using the country and the presidency to settle the score ever since.

Unless everyone was duped, the Iran nuclear deal had worked. Trump got rid of it for no reason other than a petty grudge. One thing leads to another. Bibi plays his ego like a fiddle. Trump bombs Iran.

Trump will almost certainly never feel any effects from the consequences of his actions. He has no empathy with his country people. A lot of Americans, though, might have their lives changed by this. They might lose a friend or family member in a suicide attack. Maybe we bolster our troop levels abroad and someone we know is shipped halfway across the world to protect our bases in places like Oman. Maybe the Iranians have some success bottling up the Straits of Hormuz and gas prices rise here and some single mother finds food insecurity a little bit of a bigger problem than it was yesterday.

All because we elected a guy who couldn't take a joke because the myth that adult men were playing girls' sports worried us more than this guy screwing up again just like he did the first time we elected him.
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Phatguysrule said:
I wouldn't have supported this regardless of who was president. And I don't think Kamala would have bombed Iran.
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That's because you're one of the few honest ones. I think there was an excellent chance Kamala bombed Iran. The reason she didn't win is mainly because she gave carte blanche to the Israelis in Gaza. She never differentiated any position from Biden. The problem is both parties are rotten to the core with AIPAC money.
 
trump and trumpers probably envy the conservative oppression the mullahs have on their people. There are many in this country that want the same kind of oppression and moral laws. That regime reminds me of the conservatiove regime thats building in this country.
This video is informative as to what women and younger generation are dealing with. I nope the people of Iran can stand up against the theocratic oppression. If they wish to be subservient to them than its a choice they have made. But do they have a pro choice.?

Its long but very informative....Our friends wanted us to watch it.

Iran: The Mullah and Young Women | ARTE.tv DocumentaryYouTube · ARTE.tv Documentary2 days ago
 
Sheldon Shape said:
That's because you're one of the few honest ones. I think there was an excellent chance Kamala bombed Iran. The reason she didn't win is mainly because she gave carte blanche to the Israelis in Gaza. She never differentiated any position from Biden. The problem is both parties are rotten to the core with AIPAC money.
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I don't think Biden would have bombed Iran, either. I don't think Gaza would be as hot if either Biden or Kamala had won, either.

And I think we'd be looking at Ukraine getting a lot more support from the US and that would be winding down.

I honestly think Netanyahu knew that he could get away with more with Trump and so he did what he did when he did partially calculating that it would hurt Biden or Harris and help install Trump.

It put Biden or Harris in a no-win situation leading up to the election. Israel could do whatever they wanted and anything Biden or Harris did or said did would help Trump. And helping Trump could allow Israel to do whatever they wanted for at least another 4 years.
 
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Just so you know the Iranian attack on the US base in Qatar was pre organized and Qatar was notified in advance so the base was already emptied/people were stationed in the bunkers..
This means one thing - the war is ending. All parties are climbing down the ladders and diplomacy will soon insue. I call it a Win Win for US, Israel and Iran. The future is a lot brighter now IMO.
 


I spent millions of my own money and TRAVELED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY campaigning for President Trump and his MAGA agenda and his promises.

And Trump’s MAGA agenda included these key promises:

NO MORE FOREIGN WARS.

NO MORE REGIME CHANGE.

WORLD PEACE.

And THIS is what the people voted for. Only 6 months in and we are back into foreign wars, regime change, and world war 3.

It feels like a complete bait and switch to please the neocons, warmongers, military industrial complex contracts, and neocon tv personalities that MAGA hates and who were NEVER TRUMPERS!

After the bombs were dropped, we were told “complete success” and Iran’s nuclear capabilities were totally wiped out.

Then it quickly turned to Iran’s nuclear facilities “partially damaged” and now it’s “we don’t know where their enriched uranium is.”

Let me be very clear.

My children are 22, 25, and 27.

I will literally fight ANYONE for their future. And their future and their entire generation’s future MUST be free of America LAST foreign wars that provoke terrorists attacks on our homeland, military drafts, and NUCLEAR WAR.

I am FIGHTING for them to have a future where they can afford to buy a home, afford insurance, invest for retirement, enjoy life, retain their God given freedoms, afford to raise a family under their Christian faith, not be in debt, safety and security, AND NOT HAVE OUR OWN TAX PAYER FUNDED GOVERNMENT DESTROY IT ALL.

Contrary to brainwashed Democrat boomers think and protest about, Trump is not a king, MAGA is not a cult, and I can and DO have my own opinion.
 
 
Mark my words. The war is over. I expect
14-21 days from now there will be no armed conflict ongoing.
Why do I think that? I get my news from the people that are actually living this conflict and not twitter MAGA posters caring only for US internal affairs.

I must say - If Iran will see how divided internally US has become looking at all those headless chicken twitter posts from all parties - they just might be incentivised to keep the war ongoing.. ;)
 
Well here we go, now the USA will attack Iran again.

Not sure these attacks mean Russian support.

But even though he’s two faced with chicken legs, this isn’t the kind of thing I would expect Trump to go back on his word on. Further US Strikes on Iran will be conducted sooner than later. Dudes safer in Russia than anywhere in Iran. He might as well be seeking political asylum.
 
I feel sorry for all the innocent people in Iran living in fear right now.

Americans which have been living in fear of Iranian retaliation is wild. Imagine we’re the ones you are afraid of.

It was foolish of Iran to do this, but I understand why they wouldn’t just let the attacks go without any kind of show of defensiveness.
 
SlyPokerDog said:


I spent millions of my own money and TRAVELED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY campaigning for President Trump and his MAGA agenda and his promises.

And Trump’s MAGA agenda included these key promises:

NO MORE FOREIGN WARS.

NO MORE REGIME CHANGE.

WORLD PEACE.

And THIS is what the people voted for. Only 6 months in and we are back into foreign wars, regime change, and world war 3.

It feels like a complete bait and switch to please the neocons, warmongers, military industrial complex contracts, and neocon tv personalities that MAGA hates and who were NEVER TRUMPERS!

After the bombs were dropped, we were told “complete success” and Iran’s nuclear capabilities were totally wiped out.

Then it quickly turned to Iran’s nuclear facilities “partially damaged” and now it’s “we don’t know where their enriched uranium is.”

Let me be very clear.

My children are 22, 25, and 27.

I will literally fight ANYONE for their future. And their future and their entire generation’s future MUST be free of America LAST foreign wars that provoke terrorists attacks on our homeland, military drafts, and NUCLEAR WAR.

I am FIGHTING for them to have a future where they can afford to buy a home, afford insurance, invest for retirement, enjoy life, retain their God given freedoms, afford to raise a family under their Christian faith, not be in debt, safety and security, AND NOT HAVE OUR OWN TAX PAYER FUNDED GOVERNMENT DESTROY IT ALL.

Contrary to brainwashed Democrat boomers think and protest about, Trump is not a king, MAGA is not a cult, and I can and DO have my own opinion.
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When Marjorie Taylor Greene seems to even somewhat be the beacon of reason for a political party, you begin to realize just HOW TRULY FUCKED that party is.

Did I do the ALL CAPS FOR NO APPARENT REASON thing correctly?
 
2Fluffy4U said:
Just so you know the Iranian attack on the US base in Qatar was pre organized and Qatar was notified in advance so the base was already emptied/people were stationed in the bunkers..
This means one thing - the war is ending. All parties are climbing down the ladders and diplomacy will soon insue. I call it a Win Win for US, Israel and Iran. The future is a lot brighter now IMO.
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I'm sure all the people who died agree with you wholeheartedly.........
 
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