Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

[2Fluffy4U]

https://www.zdfheute.de/politik/g7-gipfel-merz-100.html


In an interview with ZDFheute live on the sidelines of the G7 summit in Kananaskis, Canada, Chancellor Friedrich Merz (CDU) said he was grateful for Israel's actions against Iran. "This is the dirty work Israel is doing for all of us," Merz said. Germany is also affected by the regime.
The leadership in Tehran "brought death and destruction to the world with attacks, with murder and manslaughter, with Hezbollah, with Hamas," the Chancellor said. The attack by the radical Islamist Hamas on Israel on October 7, 2023, "would never have been possible without the regime in Tehran," Merz explained

 

[2Fluffy4U]

 

[Phatguysrule]

News stations used to believe just provide the info, knowing parents and others were to coach them. Now news stations want to be the parents and provide bias information regardless of accuracy. It all volume driven like mass merchandizers selling cheap shit.

We had a much better education system at the time, in which teachers were teaching critical thinking skills.

Unfortunately women who were incredibly smart and well educated didn't have many options other than becoming a teacher. So our students benefited by having some of the best and most capable teachers in the world.

Unfortunately, those teachers were paid shit. And they're paid even worse now.

Students having great teachers is the single best investment that we can make in education. We waste so much money everywhere else in education. We pay over $17,000 per student, per year. So a classroom of 25 students is bringing in $425,000 per year. Average starting pay for a teacher is $46,500 per year. Overall average pay is $66,400 per year.

No full-time teacher in this country should make less than $100k per year, IMO.

 

[crandc]

I would not recommend using JD Vance as a credible source. Unless you believe Haitians eat cats in Ohio and that Trump is a nazi also that everything Trump says is true.

 

[2Fluffy4U]

I would not recommend using JD Vance as a credible source. Unless you believe Haitians eat cats in Ohio and that Trump is a nazi also that everything Trump says is true.

He is not a source. He is a VP. I am sure the difference between a source and men in power is clear here.. if not - it is now. (with regards to why I refernced it here).
You dont have to believe Trump either. However if he decides something, he has the power to follow up on it.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Which is weird because we're essentially subsidizing this as taxpayers. :-(

 

[Hoopguru]

Only the Iranian people can kick the fascist mullahs outYahoohttps://www.yahoo.com › news › only-iranian-people-k...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

USA OFFICIALLY JOINS WAR

 

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[SlyPokerDog]

What the fuck does Unconditional Surrender mean? Surrender to whom? Neither the US nor Israel could occupy a surrendered Iran.

 

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[Hoopguru]

Part of the Mullahs religious journey and destiny is the wipe Israel off the map, then enjoy paradise. For those who don't believe its a religious war in their minds is naive. So, for them to want nukes when capable isnt a streatch. imo

 

[crandc]

He is not a source. He is a VP. I am sure the difference between a source and men in power is clear here.. if not - it is now. (with regards to why I refernced it here).
You dont have to believe Trump either. However if he decides something, he has the power to follow up on it.

You have said we Americans don't have your knowledge of Israel. Reverse is also true. Vance has changed positions on issue after issue depending on who is paying him. He has told verifiable lies and doubled down when challenged.

And Trump might be president but is a historically weak president. He boasts constantly but never delivers.

 

[2Fluffy4U]

Imagine having peace between Iran and Israel. Ironically it seems closest ever since the late 70s.

You have said we Americans don't have your knowledge of Israel. Reverse is also true. Vance has changed positions on issue after issue depending on who is paying him. He has told verifiable lies and doubled down when challenged.

And Trump might be president but is a historically weak president. He boasts constantly but never delivers.

1. I said I don't have knowledge of USA. Not the other way around. I called for humility for both parties due to that.
2. Maybe still a language barrier.
Can we agree there is a difference from lets say Joe Rogan to JD Vance? Is it a fact one is a social media person while the other holds a powerful political role with responsiblities and capabilities?
That was my ONLY point.. yet somehow both of you refernce the tweet as 'bad source'. I am not discussing opinions here. I am pointing out the text being conveyed by the VP of the USA.
Trump is the most erratic switching opinions every two seconds ever. Does that mean he is a 'bad' source? That is irrelevant. He is the President.
Was I able to better convey my notion?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Imagine having peace between Iran and Israel. Ironically it seems closest ever since the late 70s.


1. I said I don't have knowledge of USA. Not the other way around. I called for humility for both parties due to that.
2. Maybe still a language barrier.
Can we agree there is a difference from lets say Joe Rogan to JD Vance? Is it a fact one is a social media person while the other holds a powerful political role with responsiblities and capabilities?
That was my ONLY point.. yet somehow both of you refernce the tweet as 'bad source'. I am not discussing opinions here. I am pointing out the text being conveyed by the VP of the USA.
Trump is the most erratic switching opinions every two seconds ever. Does that mean he is a 'bad' source? That is irrelevant. He is the President.
Was I able to better convey my notion?

Interesting comparison. Honestly, Joe Rogan is more trustworthy then JD Vance. And I don't trust Joe Rogan.

 

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[Hoopguru]

These are the brave leaders of the Iranian resistance. When the supreme leader and mullahs are in Russia, or paradise, The mid east will now be closer to peace than ever before.

 

[2Fluffy4U]

Interesting comparison. Honestly, Joe Rogan is more trustworthy then JD Vance. And I don't trust Joe Rogan.

Yeah. And still - please let me know you at least got my point that the issue is not trust. Its the 'Job description' title.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Yeah. And still - please let me know you at least got my point that the issue is not trust. Its the 'Job description' title.

I really don't think his job description matters. He's proven to be a lying dirtbag.

I can understand why somebody outside the US might think that his title matters. But it really doesn't matter to us here in the least. Very few people actually like this guy or trust anything he says.

 

[2Fluffy4U]

That is a bit odd rephrasing what Trump said into "I could have saved lives.."
That is in a way (IMO) not seeing Iran as being accountable for their own actions or decisions. Which is wrong IMO.
This was a negotiation. Give and take. Not wanting the proposed deal? Why should I follow up and lower the price to appease you? It is almost as if it is mandatory to lower your requests from the other side once they said no.
Nope.
I can give you 10 dollars. You want 20. Nope. No deal. I dont have to call you back in case not taking 10 dollars means you cant buy pizza now.. stay hungry.

 

[crandc]

Interesting comparison. Honestly, Joe Rogan is more trustworthy then JD Vance. And I don't trust Joe Rogan.

I have to agree.

 

[crandc]

Yeah. And still - please let me know you at least got my point that the issue is not trust. Its the 'Job description' title.

Yes I see your point. No question, Vance is in position of authority which makes his lying worse

 

[2Fluffy4U]

I really don't think his job description matters. He's proven to be a lying dirtbag.

I can understand why somebody outside the US might think that his title matters. But it really doesn't matter to us here in the least. Very few people actually like this guy or trust anything he says.

Thanks for that answer.. I think your comment allowed me to better understand the gap in my thinking. I appreciate it a lot.

 

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[SlyPokerDog]

Two oil tankers collide, catch fire near Strait of Hormuz

• Tankers hit each other, no spillage or injuries reported
• Electronic interference affecting navigation systems
• UAE evacuates crew of one of the ships
• Strait of Hormuz carries fifth of world's seaborne oil

DUBAI/COPENHAGEN, June 17 (Reuters) - Two oil tankers collided and caught fire on Tuesday near the Strait of Hormuz, where electronic interference has surged during conflict between Iran and Israel, but there were no injuries to crew or spillage reported.
With Iran and Israel firing missiles at each other since Friday, interference has disrupted navigation systems near the vital waterway between Iran and Oman which handles about a fifth of the world's seaborne oil.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...re-incident-east-uaes-khor-fakkan-2025-06-17/

 

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[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

So how many weeks does Netanyahu estimate that Iran will be from making a nuclear bomb when the 2028 elections roll around.......? Asking for a right wing friend.........

 

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[bulls_with_booz]

https://www.newsweek.com/most-gop-v...involvement-israel-iran-conflict-poll-2086862

"A new YouGov poll released on Tuesday found that only 23 percent of Republicans say the U.S. should be involved in the conflict between Iran and Israel, while 51 percent say the country should not be involved.

Among all respondents, only 16 percent support U.S. involvement, while 60 percent are opposed."

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Iran is facing certain defeat.

They gotta implement the strike first policy against Israel.

Nuke or be nuked - that’s where we are at with no hope for diplomacy.