Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

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UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I'm sure all the people who died agree with you wholeheartedly.........
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I know some of them personally my friend..
But yeah, I am still able to be optimistic.
Feel free to sulk in the convenience of your home. The war is close to ending while no US 'Boots on the ground' and yet nothing can make you feel positive...
All US had to do was a one flyby to lead the middle east to a more stable future and yet no one here is able to realise it..
 
2Fluffy4U said:
Just so you know the Iranian attack on the US base in Qatar was pre organized and Qatar was notified in advance so the base was already emptied/people were stationed in the bunkers..
This means one thing - the war is ending. All parties are climbing down the ladders and diplomacy will soon insue. I call it a Win Win for US, Israel and Iran. The future is a lot brighter now IMO.
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Hope so....now lets get NATO along with the US, to help Ukraine defeat Putin.
 
2Fluffy4U said:
I know some of them personally my friend..
But yeah, I am still able to be optimistic.
Feel free to sulk in the convenience of your home. The war is close to ending while no US 'Boots on the ground' and yet nothing can make you feel positive...
All US had to do was a one flyby to lead the middle east to a more stable future and yet no one here is able to realise it..
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I think if that's all that were needed it would have been done a long time ago.
 
I am not sulking at home, @2Fluffy4U I am going to a protest. That is what I do.

According to New York Times report the decision to attack Iran, who has very unpleasant government but most decidedly has not attacked the US, was based not on intelligence (Trump refuses to read the Presidential Daily Briefing) but on Trump's "feelings" and "instincts". Who needs fact when you have Trump's instincts?
 
The Regime will stand for now. I only hope the Iranian people can be strong enough to overthrow the theocracy of oppression.
 
Hoopguru said:
The Regime will stand for now. I only hope the Iranian people can be strong enough to overthrow the theocracy of oppression.
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I hope the Israeli people can oust the genocidal psychopaths who rule over them while taking their religion hostage behind the veil of an imperial apartheid state.

Here's hoping.
 
Sheldon Shape said:
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Agree with all, but forgot to mention some most important facts too:
1. Hamas (Iran proxy) is weakend.
2. Hizballah (Iran proxy) is now practically banned by Lebanon.
3. Iran lost most signficant part of their armed forced (Nuclear + Balistic).
All those combine into one outmost important fact somehow not mentioned:
The Middle East is now more stable and safer place for all people living in it.
Thats THE FACT.
 
2Fluffy4U said:
Agree with all, but forgot to mention some most important facts too:
1. Hamas (Iran proxy) is weakend.
2. Hizballah (Iran proxy) is now practically banned by Lebanon.
3. Iran lost most signficant part of their armed forced (Nuclear + Balistic).
All those combine into one outmost important fact somehow not mentioned:
The Middle East is now more stable and safer place for all people living in it.
Thats THE FACT.
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Additional facts.

Israel's approval across the world is at an all-time low. A pariah state whose economy is on the brink of collapse and the citizens fleeing by the thousands.

Israel will be lucky if it's still standing 5 years from now.

That's the FACT.
 
Sheldon Shape said:
Additional facts.

Israel's approval across the world is at an all-time low. A pariah state whose economy is on the brink of collapse and the citizens fleeing by the thousands.

Israel will be lucky if it's still standing 5 years from now.

That's the FACT.
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Stick and stones..
I rather be addressing (removing) the stick and stones first. Words can change afterwards. Being a Pariah state is not a problem for any Israeli actually living under existential threat. But I understand how difficult it is to actually grasp these kind of feelings when not actually living under such conditions.
The probable scenario is:
Once the region quiets down due to being more stable - Israel will return to being a regular boring western-values country mostly known for their water irrigation systems and Waze/Thumb drive inventors (and excellent Eurovision songs).

And one more thing: saying 'Israel is lucky if it still standing 5 years from now' is defenitely NOT a fact. That is called an 'Opinion' / Future Assumption. Inherently - Not a FACT. FACT
 
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2Fluffy4U said:
Stick and stones..
I rather be addressing (removing) the stick and stones first. Words can change afterwards. Being a Pariah state is not a problem for any Israeli actually living under existential threat. But I understand how difficult it is to actually grasp these kind of feelings when not actually living under such conditions.
The probable scenario is:
Once the region quiets down due to being more stable - Israel will return to being a regular boring western-values country mostly known for their water irrigation systems and Waze/Thumb drive inventors.

And one more thing: saying 'Israel is lucky if it still standing 5 years from now' is defenitely NOT a fact. That is called an 'Opinion' / Future Assumption. Inherently - Not a FACT. FACT
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Apartheid is not a western value. That's why Israel's standing amongst the international (and American) communities is falling drastically. But you're welcome to keep digging yourself into a bigger hole.
 
SlyPokerDog said:


I spent millions of my own money and TRAVELED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY campaigning for President Trump and his MAGA agenda and his promises.

And Trump’s MAGA agenda included these key promises:

NO MORE FOREIGN WARS.

NO MORE REGIME CHANGE.

WORLD PEACE.

And THIS is what the people voted for. Only 6 months in and we are back into foreign wars, regime change, and world war 3.

It feels like a complete bait and switch to please the neocons, warmongers, military industrial complex contracts, and neocon tv personalities that MAGA hates and who were NEVER TRUMPERS!

After the bombs were dropped, we were told “complete success” and Iran’s nuclear capabilities were totally wiped out.

Then it quickly turned to Iran’s nuclear facilities “partially damaged” and now it’s “we don’t know where their enriched uranium is.”

Let me be very clear.

My children are 22, 25, and 27.

I will literally fight ANYONE for their future. And their future and their entire generation’s future MUST be free of America LAST foreign wars that provoke terrorists attacks on our homeland, military drafts, and NUCLEAR WAR.

I am FIGHTING for them to have a future where they can afford to buy a home, afford insurance, invest for retirement, enjoy life, retain their God given freedoms, afford to raise a family under their Christian faith, not be in debt, safety and security, AND NOT HAVE OUR OWN TAX PAYER FUNDED GOVERNMENT DESTROY IT ALL.

Contrary to brainwashed Democrat boomers think and protest about, Trump is not a king, MAGA is not a cult, and I can and DO have my own opinion.
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but it is kind of fun watching Tucker, MTG, Gabbard, Trump, Musk and Vance go at each other in public. ..
 
Phatguysrule said:
Oh, is Israel giving up their nukes?
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He's going to say they aren't the crazy ones despite the apartheid and genocide they've created. Despite attacking all of their neighboring nations. Despite sending Mossad agents to supply American children to powerful people as leverage in times like this. That's just scratching the surface.

Israel literally wouldn't exist without U.S. taxpayers.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Oh, is Israel giving up their nukes?
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It would sure be a lot easier to join no nuke prolifiration treaties once the region becomes peacful.
And I do hope these recent events actually get us closer to that future.

You are welcome to promote the removal of Israel stick and stones. For each their own interests. I understand it.
 
2Fluffy4U said:
It would sure be a lot easier to join no nuke prolifiration treaties once the region becomes peacful.
And I do hope these recent events actually get us closer to that future.

You are welcome to promote the removal of Israel stick and stones. For each their own interests. I understand it.
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We're a long LONG way from anybody disarming.
 
I just had a vision that after trump leaves office he will become the Supreme Leader of Iran...
 
Lol the ceasefire lasted 20 minutes.

No one listens to the dumbass.
 
Literally in the updates on CNN.com. said it happened. Then 20 minutes later more bombs.

No ceasefire agreement.


Glad I did 3 seconds of work for you. It was that easy. Do your own research next time.
 
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