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RR7 said:
And what relevance did the fact have? Other than to tie in his team success, and his offseason approach.
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To illustrate correlation. I already said that, repeatedly. You and others illustrated Blake's own correlation pertaining to his summers. The difference is that I accept that correlation without judgement, for whatever it is worth. The correlation that I pointed out has led to pages of posts. Why is that? :dunno:
 
What relevance is the correlation if there is no causation, and if theer is no implied causation, as you say you didn't even try to do?
 
RR7 said:
What relevance is the correlation if there is no causation, and if theer is no implied causation, as you say you didn't even try to do?
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The relevance is the correlation. People can draw their own conclusions from it, as you have done yourself.
 
PapaG said:
For me, a PG is judged in large part by the success of his team. ...
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derek fisher must be the best point guard and chris paul must be a very average point guard.
 
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westnob said:
derek fisher and chris paul.
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Yeah, Fisher been a very successful PG in terms of winning, but is limited in what he is asked to do for the Lakers. Paul is very successful statistically, and is asked to carry the primary role for his team. Both are successful in different ways.

Depends on what barometer you're using, I suppose.
 
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PapaG said:
The relevance is the correlation. People can draw their own conclusions from it, as you have done yourself.
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It's an obviously implied conclusion, but you can pretend there was no intention in that if it makes you feel better.
 
RR7 said:
It's an obviously implied conclusion, but you can pretend there was no intention in that if it makes you feel better.
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"Obviously" you can't separate correlation and causation. Meh.
 
RR7 said:
Of course, we heard last offseason that Blake was working out with Oden, and the chemistry they were developing, and how excited Blake was to work with him, and we saw that work out just wonderfully in the regular season.
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They'll both most likely be part of the second unit, so it works out perfectly.
 
PapaG said:
Yeah, Fisher been a very successful PG in terms of winning, but is limited in what he is asked to do for the Lakers. Paul is very successful statistically, and is asked to carry the primary role for his team. Both are successful in different ways.

Depends on what barometer you're using, I suppose.
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So from this frame of logic, you can imagine how some are trying to compare Blake to Fisher's situation and Miller to Paul's situation?
 
westnob said:
So from this frame of logic, you can imagine how some are trying to compare Blake to Fisher's situation and Miller to Paul's situation?
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No, I can't, because Blake hasn't won either. He comes in 3rd behind Paul and Miller in terms of being a pure PG IMO, at least in the non-winner group.

Fisher is the winner of the bunch. Doesn't mean he's the best of the four, just means he's had the most team success. Hence, it's hard for me to say he hasn't been successful. Paul also stands out from this group. He's an incredible talent. Miller and then Fisher/Blake are somewhere beneath Paul. :dunno:
 
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PapaG said:
Yeah, Fisher been a very successful PG in terms of winning, but is limited in what he is asked to do for the Lakers. Paul is very successful statistically, and is asked to carry the primary role for his team. Both are successful in different ways.

Depends on what barometer you're using, I suppose.
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You already set the barometer. "For me, a PG is judged in large part by the success of his team."
 
Natebishop3 said:
You already set the barometer. "For me, a PG is judged in large part by the success of his team."
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Yes, it is set in large part. That leaves room for truly great players like Chris Paul and John Stockton to also be considered successful.

Of course, Paul has already made a WC semifinal and lost 4-3 to the eventual champion, and Stockton made two NBA Finals, so they did at least experience success in the playoffs.

What part of "large part" translates to "only part"? :dunno:
 
BBert said:
I understand worrying about a guy's work ethic, but I don't think Miller's past performance warrants it. From all appearances, the man is all business...
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...7 months a year.

He works less than the average RETIRED American.
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
So let me get this straight. Everybody is pretty much on the same page with Miller. Great upgrade. But there is ONE PERSON who will be drinking HATORADE all season!
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No hate involved but I see Sergio for Miller as a huge downgrade, both immediately and obviously in the years to follow. Andre is a few steps from retirement, with little left in the tank, and will never reach the heights Sergio is heading for.

Overall, worst offseason in years.
 
MARIS61 said:
Andre is a few steps from retirement, with little left in the tank, and will never reach the heights Sergio is heading for.
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That's pretty silly. I am certain Andre Miller can get on a plane and move to Spain just as Sergio will. The only difference is that this will not be the height of his career...
 
MARIS61 said:
No hate involved but I see Sergio for Miller as a huge downgrade, both immediately and obviously in the years to follow. Andre is a few steps from retirement, with little left in the tank, and will never reach the heights Sergio is heading for.

Overall, worst offseason in years.
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Ah Maris....

You just sit on your deck (the bumper of a rusted-out Chevy Impala), smoke your Cohiba (doobie) and enjoy the beautiful scenary (a half-starved rattlesnake stalking a rabbit suffering from sunstroke). Leave the basketball analysis to others. :cheers:
 
oldmangrouch said:
Ah Maris....

You just sit on your deck (the bumper of a rusted-out Chevy Impala), smoke your Cohiba (doobie) and enjoy the beautiful scenary (a half-starved rattlesnake stalking a rabbit suffering from sunstroke). Leave the basketball analysis to others. :cheers:
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If only they were up to the task. :sigh:
 
Bet you a six pack the great Sergio doesn't get a single contract offer next year. So much for headed for greatness.
 
I douby he sticks in the NBA. Good luck to him - but I will be surprised if he does not play in Spain after this year.
 
I am not betting the world, I just want to see MARIS do something other than postulate... but yeah, my bet is no offer what so ever. He doesn't have the draw that Iverson has even for the minor teams... I just don't see anyone grabbing him with the class of 2010 being chock full.
 
LOTBfan said:
I am not betting the world, I just want to see MARIS do something other than postulate... but yeah, my bet is no offer what so ever. He doesn't have the draw that Iverson has even for the minor teams... I just don't see anyone grabbing him with the class of 2010 being chock full.
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Any contract, anywhere? I'm in. PM Ed O with contact information. He'll hold our bet.
 
I think Sergio could easily get a contract offer from Europe, and I suspect that's where he'll end up after next season.
 
You guys are going to get me on a technicality since I didn't specify NBA (that is what I meant, Angola probably would take him) but I will stand by on the bet for MARIS since that's what he agreed to (even though I am certain he believes Serg will be in the NBA). I hate St. Paulie but we can go for that being the wager, I am an amicable guy. Someone bookmark this and bump it next year!
 
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