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Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

BlazerCaravan said:
What's interesting to me is that some consider the $11mil an investment in potential improvement, when Nic's value now based on consistent, never improving behavior, is $11mil according to Wages of Wins. Even playing the same Nic more minutes ups that value.
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Well maybe we should fire the GM and give out contracts based off wages of wins? I mean you seem to suggest it’s a good isolated metric to hand out contracts.

Personally if you believe Nic’s performance to date is worthy of $11mil a year I think you’re an idiot.
 
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john2jer said:
It actually looks pretty straight across East to West when looking at Google Maps.
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Latitude and longitude have nothing to do with you and Minnesota being inferior to Portland
 
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Minny just give us derrick williams and you can have batum :)
 
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I don't buy this.

Neil has said many times that he wants assets young enough to build around.

Korver is 31/32.
 
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Mediocre Man said:
Latitude and longitude have nothing to do with you and Minnesota being inferior to Portland
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Don't be mean just cause other Minnesota fans are trolls. This guy seems to be the only legit one.
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
Don't be mean just cause other Minnesota fans are trolls. This guy seems to be the only legit one.
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he was part of said "invasion" forgive many for thinking stupid people hang out with other stupid people :devilwink:
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
Don't be mean just cause other Minnesota fans are trolls. This guy seems to be the only decent one.
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FTFY.

He's not posting porn, and he's only talking 50% of the ish as the others. And he appears to be older than 13. Kudos to him. That makes him one in a million....err... 12,000.
 
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Draco said:
Well maybe we should fire the GM and give out contracts based off wages of wins? I mean you seem to suggest it’s a good isolated metric to hand out contracts.

Personally if you believe Nic’s performance to date is worthy of $11mil a year I think you’re an idiot.
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That's not very friendly.
 
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Ed O said:
I'm sorry, but I can't find Batum on that page. Where does it say he's worth $11m? He produced the 86th-most wins in 2011, and it seems unlikely that the NBA would have 86 players all making $11m+ a year, and even less so that players like Tony Allen, Ed Davis, Josh McRoberts and Dorell Wright (all ahead of him on the list) would be.

I might be missing something, of course. Please help me understand :)

Ed O.
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it gives you the value of a win

batum had 6.8 winshares in 2011, and 6.6 (extrapotated) in 2012

and for every value deal, there is a gilbert arenas or rashard lewis gumming up the works
 
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Mediocre Man said:
Latitude and longitude have nothing to do with you and Minnesota being inferior to Portland
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Whatever makes you feel better, Mediocre Man.

@Fez, Portland wouldn't be looking to keep Korver. His contract is for $5mil this year, but only 500k is guaranteed. He'll be cut before the season starts, likely before August 1st.

And again, I don't know any rock solid details on a pending trade, just that Korver is rumored to be heading to Minnesota, though through a friend of a friend, Korver's been told by his agent that he's heading to LA or Portland. Just piecing together rumors.
 
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You guys looked past the fact that I came here from Oregonlive. You calls should look past that he came from something called Rube Chat.
 
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john2jer said:
Whatever makes you feel better, Mediocre Man.

@Fez, Portland wouldn't be looking to keep Korver. His contract is for $5mil this year, but only 500k is guaranteed. He'll be cut before the season starts, likely before August 1st.

And again, I don't know any rock solid details on a pending trade, just that Korver is rumored to be heading to Minnesota, though through a friend of a friend, Korver's been told by his agent that he's heading to LA or Portland. Just piecing together rumors.
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So? He's not an asset and Neil is in, and I quote, an "asset collecting phase"
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
Don't be mean just cause other Minnesota fans are trolls. This guy seems to be the only legit one.
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He's not. he has already made trolling comments. He just decided to play nice for a while until he sees what happens with Batum
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
You guys looked past the fact that I came here from Oregonlive. You calls should look past that he came from something called Rube Chat.
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But this is exactly why we don't respect you. Sure, we looked past it. But that doesn't mean we think much of you. :devilwink:
 
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Mediocre Man said:
He's not. he has already made trolling comments. He just decided to play nice for a while until he sees what happens with Batum
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Exactly. His trolling has taken a back seat for a sec because he's nervous.

Once a Billy Bob, always a Billy Bob.
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
I don't know how you can look at that list and give it any credence. Landry Fields is worth 15m? Camby 12.6m? Yeah... no.
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It's just an interesting interpretation of data. WS/48 is a decent way of telling who is performing well within a team; I don't think any GM other than Khan actually uses this (I do think Khan is actually a spambot that trolls Google for names and numbers). It's a way of looking at who is a steal and who isn't.
 
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Mediocre Man said:
He's not. he has already made trolling comments. He just decided to play nice for a while until he sees what happens with Batum
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Definitely. Once the Batum deal is done, I'd likely never post here again. I'd have no reason to.
 
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Mediocre Man said:
He's not. he has already made trolling comments. He just decided to play nice for a while until he sees what happens with Batum
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Everyone here makes trolling comments, you included. His were not over the top, and it seems that he's kind of taken a liking to this place. His "trolling" was pretty much all good natured ribbing, I don't think it's fair to bunch him in the the porn spammers. I could be proved wrong though.
 
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Draco said:
Well maybe we should fire the GM and give out contracts based off wages of wins? I mean you seem to suggest it’s a good isolated metric to hand out contracts.
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paying people what they are worth IS a good isolated metric to hand out contracts

of course there are other things to consider, such as age (in batums favor) potential (check) and fit (still to be seen)...the old way of thinking is paying people what you think they will be worth. batum is already worth 11 million, and likely to be much more so over the next 4 years (his prime)

this isnt some 32 year old guy who we would be paying for past production and expecting a drop off from, batum will only get better, and if he doesnt? he will still be worth his contract

its a change in the games thinking, where people can now be accurately valued, if you have a problem with that, devise your own superior metric
 
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Mediocre Man said:
He's not. he has already made trolling comments. He just decided to play nice for a while until he sees what happens with Batum
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Fez Hammersticks said:
Exactly. His trolling has taken a back seat for a sec because he's nervous.

Once a Billy Bob, always a Billy Bob.
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I just quickly reviewed all of his posts. He hasn't been trolling. Actually he's rolled with the punches pretty well since he's been here.
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
Everyone here makes trolling comments, you included. His were not over the top, and it seems that he's kind of taken a liking to this place. His "trolling" was pretty much all good natured ribbing, I don't think it's fair to bunch him in the the porn spammers. I could be proved wrong though.
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You will be, fuck him
 
Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

Mediocre Man said:
He's not. he has already made trolling comments. He just decided to play nice for a while until he sees what happens with Batum
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Fez Hammersticks said:
Exactly. His trolling has taken a back seat for a sec because he's nervous.

Once a Billy Bob, always a Billy Bob.
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Again, I just quickly reviewed all of his posts. He hasn't been trolling. Actually he's rolled with the punches pretty well since he's been here.

If you don't like him because of where he came from than ignore him but the insults and argument baiting needs to stop.
 
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Rumor has the Wolves ready to acquire Kyle Korver. That is probably a cap clearing move. Once that trade is done, then Korver is waived/released, Batum's deal would be signed. It's fun for Wolves fans anyways, with all of the rumors. The Wolves already have added Budinger, and agreed to deals with Roy, and Shved. Kahn is probably trying to move Wes Johnson and Luke Ridnour.
 
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