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dviss1 said:
I would vote no. I'm of the firm belief that these billionaires should fund their own stadiums. The fact that they would love to use taxpayer dollars when they have this type of money is infuriating to me:

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This would have a huge impact on the local economy in a good way. Pros outweigh the cons on this one FAMS!
 
dviss1 said:
I would vote no. I'm of the firm belief that these billionaires should fund their own stadiums. The fact that they would love to use taxpayer dollars when they have this type of money is infuriating to me:

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This right here is why Portland won’t get a team. Small town thinking and not understanding the benefits to the economy. Had the Delta dome passed, how many jobs do you think an NFL franchise would have brought in?
 
Mediocre Man said:
This right here is why Portland won’t get a team. Small town thinking and not understanding the benefits to the economy. Had the Delta dome passed, how many jobs do you think an NFL franchise would have brought in?
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The mindset sucks, but it's not dependent on Portlanders passing anything.
 
GoZers said:
The airport obviously looks nice. I have always wondered why it’s important to a city though. I mean, an airport needs to function efficiently, but what does a billion dollars in nice ceilings and trees do for Portland? I’m honestly asking the question no need for people to start firing off insults like usual.
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What most don't realize is that the city doesn't fund anything at the airport. The Port of Portland is a private entity, funded by airport terminal fees charged to the airlines. So all the upgrades to the airport are commissioned by and paid for by the Port of Portland. So I would assume that the people who run the airport believed these upgrades to be a worthwhile financial investment for the Port itself, irrespective of whether or not it's beneficial to the city.
 
kjironman1 said:
You all who travel a bit will be very happy with the rest of the PDX project. Portland might end up with one of the very nicest airports in the country.
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Always thought it was a good airport compared to many I've been in but the new additions make it absolutely beautiful and I never thought I'd say that about an airport of all places. Me and the wife were EXTREMELY impressed at Christmas time and figured it was complete, crazy to know there are still two more stages to the plans. Can't wait to see it when it's finished!
 
Mediocre Man said:
This right here is why Portland won’t get a team. Small town thinking and not understanding the benefits to the economy. Had the Delta dome passed, how many jobs do you think an NFL franchise would have brought in?
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Oh well. The glazing y'all do of billionaires is crazy. These people don't need our money. They're the reason why the Sonics are in OKC. Fuck them. You can coddle their balls all you want.
 
julius said:
Oregon Senate Bill 5, for all intent and purposes, is basically a jock tax. It was created and passed when the Expos were threatening to move, and there was a need to show some kind of source of for funding of either building a new stadium, or renovating PGE/Providence.

It's probably the best thing that came out of that version of the "Bring MLB to PDX" movement.

The reason it is "going before the legislature" now is that they want to update it. Why update it? Well, it's based on 2005 (ish) salaries. Salaries have skyrocketed, and adjusting it to what the salaries would be today more accurately shows how much they could capitalize on the taxes created from the players and people associated with a new franchise (which would cover the bond iirc).

Also, this is only going to happen IF a team is moved here or an expansion franchise is granted to the city (etc). You, as a tax payer, won't pay a new tax either. The only increase you might see is maybe in ticket prices or merchandise bought from the team. But if you never go to a game or go to 81 games a year, this modification of Senate Bill 5, will not increase your tax burden.
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Appreciate that. You broke it down well.
 
Mediocre Man said:
This right here is why Portland won’t get a team. Small town thinking and not understanding the benefits to the economy. Had the Delta dome passed, how many jobs do you think an NFL franchise would have brought in?
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Why are you such a cry baby? All the top and right people politically wise is widely behind this..

If Portland doesn’t get a team please don’t blame Oregon by saying we didn’t do enough
 
AldoTrapani said:


Why are you such a cry baby? All the top and right people politically wise is widely behind this..

If Portland doesn’t get a team please don’t blame Oregon by saying we didn’t do enough
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It won’t happen in my lifetime
 
dviss1 said:
Oh well. The glazing y'all do of billionaires is crazy. These people don't need our money. They're the reason why the Sonics are in OKC. Fuck them. You can coddle their balls all you want.
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you say this like it’s a bad thing
 
PtldPlatypus said:
What most don't realize is that the city doesn't fund anything at the airport. The Port of Portland is a private entity, funded by airport terminal fees charged to the airlines. So all the upgrades to the airport are commissioned by and paid for by the Port of Portland. So I would assume that the people who run the airport believed these upgrades to be a worthwhile financial investment for the Port itself, irrespective of whether or not it's beneficial to the city.
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Refreshing to get a real answer like this. It makes sense at least. Because if it was paid by the city or state etc it would make no sense whatsoever. I suppose I could have googled it but why when there are such knowledgeable and smart people right here.
 
AldoTrapani said:
So passing nearly 1 Billion dollars in money, and universal political support is not enough.

ya get the fuck outta here troll
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Not a troll. A 60 year old who’s been played by the city, the leagues and the billionaires his whole life.

I really hope it happens, truly I do. However, the Rose Garden was built with hockey in mind. That was 30 years ago
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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That looks awesome! So that's the actual view from PNG Park in Pittsburgh.

Any shots of what the view would look like of the current proposal in Portland?

Would it be this angle?
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More like this?

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Mediocre Man said:
Not a troll. A 60 year old who’s been played by the city, the leagues and the billionaires his whole life.

I really hope it happens, truly I do. However, the Rose Garden was built with hockey in mind. That was 30 years ago
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Paul Allen built the Rose Garden for the Blazers. What are you talking about?
 
Mediocre Man said:
The NHL had a schedule for the Penguins for both the west and east
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Yeah when we built it there was plenty of talk about the NHL and yes the Rose Garden was designed to easily transform from Ice to Hardwood. There is even special ventilation ducts to prevent fog forming if they needed to flip fast. That can be a problem if condensation starts to take hold.
 
kjironman1 said:
Yeah when we built it there was plenty of talk about the NHL and yes the Rose Garden was designed to easily transform from Ice to Hardwood. There is even special ventilation ducts to prevent fog forming if they needed to flip fast. That can be a problem if condensation starts to take hold.
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Yep
 
Looks like SB 110 got a recommendation for a pass being sent to the floor. Look for it to be approved today..

Nearly $1 billion dollars towards the construction of a stadium
 
Mediocre Man said:
The NHL had a schedule for the Penguins for both the west and east
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Didn't help that Paul Allen pretty much nixed the NHL to Portland stuff, otherwise there would have been an NHL team like 25 years ago or more.
 
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