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Im sure the Mariners won't want a Team in Portland encroaching on a % of their fan base. Im sure Root Sports won't be involved as they have the Mariners and other Seattle teams.
 
Hoopguru said:
Im sure the Mariners won't want a Team in Portland encroaching on a % of their fan base. Im sure Root Sports won't be involved as they have the Mariners and other Seattle teams.
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How did the Sonics and Blazers do it? And now Timbers and Sounders?
 
AldoTrapani said:
How did the Sonics and Blazers do it? And now Timbers and Sounders?
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I get you're point...but Im sure if you asked the Mariners if they want another team down the road they'd say no because of a decent % of fan base would convert over to the Portland team. They've been building that base for many years, where the sounders/sonics along with blazers/timbers came into leagues close to one another. Plus Roots sports is owned by the Mariners & Warner bros.
 
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Hoopguru said:
I get you're point...but Im sure if you asked the Mariners if they want another team down the road they'd say no because of a decent % of fan base would convert over to the Portland team. They've been building that base for many whereas the sounders/sonics along with blazers/timbers came into leagues close to one another. Plus Roots sports is owned by the Mariners & Warner bros.
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That's small potatoes. Getting a team in Portland would bring out the people who refuse to support any Seattle team, and they would potentially get more ticket sales from people traveling up to Seattle to watch the rivalry.
 
Hoopguru said:
I get you're point...but Im sure if you asked the Mariners if they want another team down the road they'd say no because of a decent % of fan base would convert over to the Portland team. They've been building that base for many whereas the sounders/sonics along with blazers/timbers came into leagues close to one another. Plus Roots sports is owned by the Mariners & Warner bros.
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No way that plays into it sir. Draw a 170 miles radius circle around Chicago and see how many teams fall into that. That isn’t a problem for the Midwest teams.
 
Hoopguru said:
I get you're point...but Im sure if you asked the Mariners if they want another team down the road they'd say no because of a decent % of fan base would convert over to the Portland team. They've been building that base for many whereas the sounders/sonics along with blazers/timbers came into leagues close to one another. Plus Roots sports is owned by the Mariners & Warner bros.
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How dare you question a Mariners fan's dedication?! We waited 21 years for the playoffs. Ride or die!

More baseball is more baseball. Neither the MLB nor the city of Seattle are opposed to that.
 
THE HCP said:
No way that plays into it sir. Draw a 170 miles radius circle around Chicago and see how many teams fall into that. That isn’t a problem for the Midwest teams.
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Agree, but consider how long those teams have been around and the population/households represents media market is much larger. Also, if Portland gets a will they want to use roots sports that is owned by the Mariners or sign with someone else? Media rights/markets matter.
Sure there will always be fans of the mariners as long as Portland doesn't have a team like the sea chickens.
 
hoopsjock said:
If Portland is ever to get a team the A's moving to Las Vegas was the first step. If it's true that MLB wants one of the two expansion teams to be in a western time slot, then it's pretty much between Portland and Salt Lake City to see who can finalize plans quicker.
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If it comes down to SLC or Portland, Portland has no chance. The politics and business are more aligned for a new sports franchise in SLC than in Portland. Portland city leaders have more pressing issues to focus on than a professional sports franchise. I don’t think bringing a MLB franchise to Portland is on their priority list. Portland has rising crime rates, homelessness and businesses leaving the city in droves.
 
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If it comes down to SLC or Portland, Portland has no chance. The politics and business are more aligned for a new sports franchise in SLC than in Portland. Portland city leaders have more pressing issues to focus on than a professional sports franchise. I don’t think bringing a MLB franchise to Portland is on their priority list. Portland has rising crime rates, homelessness and businesses leaving the city in droves.
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Short-sighted choice. SLC will soon be a toxic mess once the lake dries up.
 
Shaboid said:
How dare you question a Mariners fan's dedication?! We waited 21 years for the playoffs. Ride or die!

More baseball is more baseball. Neither the MLB nor the city of Seattle are opposed to that.
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I get it....but if Portland had a team since the mariners you'd probably be devoted to one.
Heck, I couldn't stand the Sonics, its was always the battle in Seattle. And if Portland is lucky enough to get a team after a number of years that rivalry would be vicious as well. Unless we are National league then you could support them both, if you wish.
 
Natebishop3 said:
That's small potatoes. Getting a team in Portland would bring out the people who refuse to support any Seattle team, and they would potentially get more ticket sales from people traveling up to Seattle to watch the rivalry.
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Agree and after a number of years the rivalry would be the same as the Sonics/blazers-Timbers/Sounders.
 
During my working days I spent a ton time in the Seattle area listening to Softy, Calabro and the sports babe, arrogantly dissing on little old Portland, along with asshole husky fans. If you guys thing Seattle fans are rooting for us to get a team, let alone and AL team, that a big stretch, rivalry or no rivalry.
 
Hoopguru said:
During my working days I spent a ton time in the Seattle area listening to Softy, Calabro and the sports babe, arrogantly dissing on little old Portland, along with asshole husky fans. If you guys thing Seattle fans are rooting for us to get a team, let alone and AL team, that a big stretch, rivalry or no rivalry.
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As with everything else sports related, FUCK SEATTLE WITH A RUSTY MACE.
 
Hoopguru said:
I get it....but if Portland had a team since the mariners you'd probably be devoted to one.
Heck, I couldn't stand the Sonics, its was always the battle in Seattle. And if Portland is lucky enough to get a team after a number of years that rivalry would be vicious as well. Unless we are National league then you could support them both, if you wish.
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I'm a different story all together. I've got 4 brothers and we were each assigned an MLB team at birth.
  • Oldest - Cubs
  • 2nd - Red Sox
  • Me - Mariners
  • 4th - Marlins
  • 5th - Rangers

That being said, I would absolutely buy some sort of multi game package for a Portland team. Maybe even go in on season tickets with a family member or group.
 
THE HCP said:
No way that plays into it sir. Draw a 170 miles radius circle around Chicago and see how many teams fall into that. That isn’t a problem for the Midwest teams.
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Chicago is 80 some miles from Milwaukee and 180(ish) miles to Indianapolis.

The difference is, what areas to the teams consider their territory. Seattle considers Portland their "territory" when it comes to TV broadcast rights (etc).

Milwaukee and Chicago don't consider each other their own market in that regard.
 
julius said:
Chicago is 80 some miles from Milwaukee and 180(ish) miles to Indianapolis.

The difference is, what areas to the teams consider their territory. Seattle considers Portland their "territory" when it comes to TV broadcast rights (etc).

Milwaukee and Chicago don't consider each other their own market in that regard.
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Thats right!
 
It's really going to suck when SLC gets a team and PDX is left with nothing. That city has had so many chances to get a 2nd pro team in there and whiff every single time! I get why a team like the Orioles were not happy with the Nationals coming in, but 180 miles is far enough away to not have those issues. I'd guess the PDX Mariner fans make up about 10% of their base, that can't be enough for them to get their hackles up.
 
bigbailes said:
It's really going to suck when SLC gets a team and PDX is left with nothing. That city has had so many chances to get a 2nd pro team in there and whiff every single time! I get why a team like the Orioles were not happy with the Nationals coming in, but 180 miles is far enough away to not have those issues. I'd guess the PDX Mariner fans make up about 10% of their base, that can't be enough for them to get their hackles up.
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On the one hand, I think SLC Is just the shiny object in the mirror right now, I do wonder how they will handle all the territory rights that giving a team to SLC would create. I know the articles state that they wouldn't be stealing from another teams market, but that's simply not true. They are in Colorados market, and once Vegas is confirmed, you could argue they are in theirs too.
 
julius said:
On the one hand, I think SLC Is just the shiny object in the mirror right now, I do wonder how they will handle all the territory rights that giving a team to SLC would create. I know the articles state that they wouldn't be stealing from another teams market, but that's simply not true. They are in Colorados market, and once Vegas is confirmed, you could argue they are in theirs too.
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I agree they are the shiny new toy but they also seem to be motivated like the leadership in Portland isn't. Yea they might get Rockies games now, but they are 400+ miles away from Denver, Vegas and Phoenix, so I doubt those teams will put up a fight quite like Seattle would over Portland. Seems like the cards aren't in PDX's favor, but all of this is still a long ways from happening and a lot can change.
 
It is good news ... the A's to Vegas has been pretty much a done deal for a couple years now. Until the A's and Rays stadium situations are figured out, there will be no expansion. The Rays were THIS close to actually splitting their games between Tampa and Montreal but that all fell through at the last minute. I'm still not sold that St Pete/Tampa will ever give them the stadium they really want/need, so more waiting figures to be in store.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Not sure why we need to put the team in Portland. Put the stadium out in Woodburn or something. Call them the Oregon Woods.
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There's almost no way that they can find the space in Portland, but at the same time, other parts of the region are anti-sports/NIMBY, where are you going to be able to find a place to use?
 
julius said:
There's almost no way that they can find the space in Portland, but at the same time, other parts of the region are anti-sports/NIMBY, where are you going to be able to find a place to use?
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Step 1: Move all the homeless out to where you want to build the stadium.
Step 2: Drive away all the NIMBYs
Step 3: Buy up the land and build the stadium.
Step 4: ?????
Step 5: Profit
 
Actually a team in Portland would increase Portlanders going to Seattle for series. I'm not a Mariners fan and have no reason to watch their games on TV, or in person. Actually the A's moving to Las Vegas just increased PDX's chances, due to the fact MLB wants a Pacific Division when expansion happens and needs another Pacific site. Mike Barrett was on Rip City Radio yesterday and seemed confident in their chances. He also said the City Of Portland's leadership is on board now.
 
It does make more sense to add a team on the west coast.
 
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